Gorillas, Humans . . . and the NAP

Religion is what persuades good people to do evil things. Not only religion but the idea of nationalism/ patriotism and fear and Americans have been assaulted now since 9/11 with fear inducing false flags so as to persuade them that what ever violence committed in our name by the only entity that gave itself the authority to commit such violence, the government, with the consent of the people.
In 1961 Yale University professor Stanley Milgram performed psychological experiments which indicated that people would commit even the most horrendous acts of violence, torture and even war crimes when ordered to do so by authority. The evidence of this is the war in Viet nam, the poisoning of that country by Agent orange, My Lai massacre by Lt. Calley in the executive image of John Wayne. The tortures at Abu Gharib. False flags. The list is endless and has great historical background as well. The experiments that took place are a bit too extensive to discuss here but if you do some research on the Milgram Experiment you can get a good idea of what he discovered.
The outcome is that when people, good, well meaning people, even of the faith( no matter which one) even those who may be appalled at such, will obey whatever orders an authority figure tells them, even if it means dropping thousands of tons of bombs on innocent men, women and children. They can be convinced they are only following orders and not to allow such acts any feelings of guilt or remorse.
Fortunately it doesn’t work that way. A great many veterans of wars have had to deal with the fact they caused the deaths of innocent people. Many could not reconcile what they did.
It will take another two or three millennia before humanity finally grows up if it makes it that far. Until then the possibility of earth’s humanity to become part of the Galactic Federation and join the rest of the intelligent peoples in the universe will be prevented.
The violence that has become so terrible, enabled by technology will only become worse. Imagine AI drones or robots(thank you DARPA) armed and with the capabilities of facial recognition that often doesn’t work properly.
Consider what’s in our future.

It’s interesting to notice that when a clover-type person says something like, “Tell me where your illegal search and violence comes into play when police stop you and talk to you?” they fail to consider that the very act of pulling someone over in traffic is a very dangerous thing. Dangerous for the driver being pulled over, dangerous for the cop doing it, and dangerous for everyone around them both.

It’s so dangerous in fact that, strangely enough some clover-types noticed, in many states laws have been passed making it a “crime” not to slow down or move over when a driver encounters a state vehicle on the side of the road. Not surprisingly, those laws Only apply to state vehicles along the roadside, and not to mere mundanes who happen to find themselves on the side of the road due to a mechanical issue and whatnot.

A cop pulled me over years ago for not wearing my seat-belt. It was on a busy four lane hyway. It seemed to me at the time I was actually placed in greater danger by being pulled over by this cop “who just wanted to talk to me” than I was from any possibility of danger from not wearing my seat-belt.

I asked him why he just couldn’t give me a warning.
He said, “I don’t give out warnings” then wrote the ticket and left.

The takeaway from that is: It’s ok to put people in an actual dangerous position in order to inform them they are doing something which could potentially result in harm to themselves.

The state is mad. Insane.

In the beginning, in my state, a cop couldn’t “just pull you over” for not wearing a seat-belt. You had to have already been pulled over for something else. That’s how the clovers “sold” the seat-belt law to the other almost-fully-clover-types in order to get the law passed.

Then the law got tweaked.

Ha. It just occurred to me, ‘the state’ and clovers are tweakers.

My Young Padawan Learner Jean,

First off you’re smarter, younger and more error-correctable, and better mentally organized, so bear with me.

If I see anything about homo bonobo, I’ll probably edit it out. It’s fits their agenda too well. I’ll stick with these stats: 1.6% of Americans identify as gay. 0.7% identify as bisexual.

This alternate sexuality may need to be addressed in a voluntary society. But I don’t see a need to bring bonobos into the mix.

Anything the PTB are already allowing. For example Veganism or Homosexuality wouldn’t seem to require our brainpower or time.

If you want to be vegan or gay, go for it. The PTB don’t seem to care. You don’t need us, you can just do it.

“Rape by female bonobos non-existent”
http://sfsbiology.edublogs.org/2011/03/28/rape-amongst-animals/

7 things bonobos can teach us
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/201202/7-things-bonobos-can-teach-us-about-love-and-sex
“Sisterhood is powerful. Although female bonobos are about 20% smaller than males—roughly the same ratio as in chimps and humans—they dominate males by sticking together. If a male gets out of line and harasses a female, ALL the other females will gang up on him. This sisterly solidarity, combined with lots of sex, tends to keep the males behaving politely”

I think all human females already work in tandem, but in a haphazard, irrational, and often statist way. What if they were delegated the role of when is force appropriate, but held to a higher standard of forgoing group violent force.

I would trust a woman in my family far more than myself to know when it is morally appropriate to do something. I’ve always perceived women in general as being less corrupted in this regard.

Women are far inferior in creating things. And initiating new things. But maybe I should be comfortable letting good solid bonobo minded women(what makes a woman a chimp) make life and shunned for life and stripped of all property decisions(there is no group administered death in a bonobo society)

Secrets of the Bonobo Sisterhood (MS Magazine)
http://www.jessicaseigel.com/articles/bonobo.shtml

Violent Chimps
http://harvardmagazine.com/1997/01/right.chimp.html

“Wrangham wrote with science writer Dale Peterson, he reveals how he found a glimmer of hope that humanity could reduce its violence and overcome its five-million-year rap sheet of murder and war. Wrangham bases his optimism on the discovery that bonobos create peaceful societies in which males and females share power–while the biologically similar chimpanzees live in patriarchal groups in which males regularly rape, beat, kill, and sometimes even drink the blood of their own kind.”

“researchers had been startled to observe chimpanzee males organizing gangs of a half-dozen or so members and launching lethal raids into the territory of neighboring chimps. These were clearly not food-gathering expeditions. The chimps did not stop to eat, and they did not make any of their normal calls and shouts.

Instead, they crept silently into the territory of a neighboring group and hid until they saw a lone chimp. Screaming with excitement, they would ambush the victim, hold him immobile and beat him to death, sometimes twisting the victim’s leg until the muscles ripped, or tearing off flaps of skin while he was still alive. In one well-documented case in Tanzania, a group of male chimpanzees used such ambushes to eliminate a whole band of neighbors.

Further research found that such violence was not limited to chimpanzees. Male gorillas, for example, were observed ripping infants out of their mothers’ arms and smashing them to the ground in often-successful attempts to entice the mothers to mate with them. One theory is that the male gorillas do this to demonstrate their strength and to show how valuable they would be as protectors.”

My theory of Gandhi, is he had a role to play. Just like the American founders. In each case, the Brits were altering the terms of their fleece, and Gandhi and George Washington were mere pawns in their games.

There certainly was no shortage of former Brits in power in the US after 1789. Qui Bono, both new USA and new India racked up lots of debts.

It’s always some subgroup of the dominant troop, in my mind that gets on top. Gandhi and the founders can teach us, but don’t count me in as agreeing that the myths invented around them are true.

Lots more good stuff there I’m reading. Tell me where your crypto protocol is at, and I’ll learn it and converse with you in it.

I’m willing to steal from the oppressors. To foment dischord and frustrate them. I would boobytrap an alternate location, and make it hard to attack, IF I were the only one there, or better still not even present.

I would sound ridiculous trying to tell anyone here how to kill anyone else, I know less than nothing about it.

I think you saw a vid and have made an incorrect mental substitution of a bonobo, where there never was one. These bonobo violence vids don’t seem to exist. Didn’t someone just post a violent monkey video here recently.

As a freethinker, I’m okay with you articulating anything at all. Even centralized violence for genetic alphas. It isn’t clover-behavior if you understand what you’re doing. You pass that test, so make your case.

My only question is why do you need to bring down the NAP or the emerging bonobo conduct axioms?

You should be making your own case, not attacking new ideas that aren’t even being practiced yet. Attacking what others are working on, rather than building your own case IS INDEED THE VERY ESSENCE OF BEING A CLOVER. So just don’t do that, please, why would you?

Learning the Human Game: Alan Watts

In music, one doesn’t make the end of the composition the point of the composition.

If that were so, the best conductors would be those who played fastest; and there would be composers who only wrote finales.

People go to concerts only to hear one crashing chord – because that’s the end.

Same way in dancing—you don’t aim at a particular spot in the room; that’s where you should arrive.

The whole point of the dancing is the dance.

Now, but we don’t see that as something brought by our education into our everyday conduct.

We’ve got a system of schooling which gives a completely different impression.

It’s all graded—and what we do is we put the child into the corridor of this grade system, with a kind of “c’mon kitty kitty kitty…”.

And yeah, you go to kindergarten, and that’s a great thing, because when you finish that, you’ll get into first grade.

And then c’mon, first grade leads to second grade, and so on…

And then you get out of grade school you go to high school—and it’s revving up, the thing is coming…

Then you’re going to go to college, and by jove then you get into graduate school, and when you’re through with graduate school, you’ll go out to join the world.

And then you get into some racket where you’re selling insurance. And they’ve got that quota to make. And you’re going to make that.

And all the time, this thing is coming, it’s coming, it’s coming—that great thing, the success you’re working for.

Then when you wake up one day about forty years old, you say “My God! I’ve arrived! I’m there!”

And you don’t feel very different from what you always felt.

And there’s a slight letdown, because you feel there’s a hoax.

And there was a hoax.

A dreadful hoax.

They made you miss everything. By expectation.

Look at the people who live to retire, and put those savings away.

And then when they’re sixty-five, and they don’t have any energy left, they’re more or less impotent, they go and rot in an old people’s “senior citizens” community.

Because we’ve simply cheated ourselves, the whole way down the line.

We thought of life by analogy was a journey, was a pilgrimage, which had a serious purpose at the end.

And the thing was to get to that end.

Success, or whatever it is, or maybe heaven after you’re dead.

But we missed the point the whole way along.

It was a musical thing, and you were supposed to sing, or to dance, while the music was being played.

I believe there are living entities of incredible dimensions. Rather than general phenomena such as zeitgeists, I belief we are members of living networks of conscious beings, and that our informational interactions are occurring at faster than the speed of light.

Philip K Dick called them VALIS – Vast Active Living Intelligence System
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VALIS

http://world-information.org/trd/70

http://secretsun.blogspot.com/2011/12/ill-show-you-how-to-bring-me-to-your.html

The exciting thing is that a VALIS is able to transform information at a far greater than the speed of light. I also believe we have this capability.
http://www.nature.com/news/2008/080813/full/news.2008.1038.html

I can make assumptions and reasonably approximate what you are doing within a reasonable bounded space of possible realities 16 time zones ahead of me on your island in the midst of the Taiwan Strait, Luzon Strait, East China Sea, Philippine Sea, and South China Sea. You could do the same about me here in the Mojave Desert where last I checked it was still 107 degrees at 11pm local time.

You know more things about me maybe than you wish. Perhaps to you, there is pitiable sameness in my posts, and as you read them, you know about what they are going to say, and roughly what they’ll fantastically claim, and that always the supernova point rapidly approaches in this post where it gradually disintegrates and its trains of thought all derail and fail to cohere in a vast mess right about here.

Little else to do but inventory the scene of another accident. No real survivors. You click the links or more often you don’t, but either way it’s just some photons and IP packets that made yet another small explosive noise, and maybe startled a few here in attendance and turned a head, but yet again nothing ever comes of it.

The vertice is, in these lines of imagination, within these polyhedra of supposition, this thought is happening faster than light. This isn’t surprising, since only 4% of the mass of the universe is the type of matter bound by any observable attributes, such as the speed of light. Most of the thought process is extra-sensory. And extra-material. The matter we now have at hand to build instruments to detect thoughts aren’t yet constructible of the right flavored quarks to observe our thoughts.

Ziyi Zhang – crouching tigress – in Magic – by Coldplay
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qtb11P1FWnc

You know the tropes before this alt brit rock band video even beings. The information your mind possess and processes is faster than the speed of light. You exert energy and convert matter all the while. You’re in two worlds at once, that of greater China, and that of the greater Abrahamic European world. Far more than half the world per capita. Neither is much of challenge, but you make of them what you can.

And if one were to ask after all that I’ve been through
Do you still believe in magic? Well yes, of course I do.
– Berryman, Buckland, Champion, Martin

FYI:

What looks to be an excellent article!

The Bonobo Chimp And Their Intelligent Adoption Of The Non-Aggression Axiom
07/21/2014 by hskiprob Leave a comment

http://rsjexperiment.wordpress.com/2014/07/21/the-bonobo-chimp-and-their-intelligent-adoption-of-the-non-aggression-axiom/

1. if you are asked if you are a “freeman”, ask what it means, then accuse them of profiling and discrimination, both of which are against their law.

2. when you see someone stopped by cops (security guards), stop behind the cop car and ask him if you can assist; what’s going on?; who are you?; what’s the breach of the peace?; let’s see your DL. Yes, he will tell you to leave, but, a) We do not have to do as we are told by programmed drones; and, b) if there are enough of us, they’ll soon learn that theirs is a dangerous occupation. United we stand; divided we fall. No more standing around whilst one of ours gets abused.

3. We must let them know: “I do not recognise you; you work for a corporation not unlike Sears and no Sears employee tells me what to do; I am NOT an employee of your corporation so your manual does not apply to me; there is NO de jure government and, thus, no government agents, no matter for what alphabet agency you pretend to work; you are de facto and the people want you OUT; you are frauds and thieves; you are on MY land so you are here illegally; get off my land and out of my life! You’re a public servant, right? Great! You work for me, then. You’re fired!

“If the American people ever find out what we have done, they’ll chase us down the streets and lynch us. –G.H.W. Bush”

Well, it’s time to start chasing.

So are clover, gil, david, blakmir, merely advocating their life philosophies and inviting us to join them as self owners with free will? Are they rare benevolent bonobos?

Or are they drowned in their slave moralities? Are they attacking and seeking to destroy all competing philosophies? Are they willing to use political power and violence to force us to live the way they think we should? Do they seek to drown us as they are drowned?

Do they fail the turing test, of being humans endowed with free will. Are they instead mere bots, subservient to ideas and systems invented by their philosophical betters? Are they ubiquitous common chimps?

You needn’t adhere to any common philosophy. Being bonobo is simply being a Mensch, and recognizing your fellow Mensch. Clover and Gil are not Mensch. They are unlikely to change. David and blakmir are the ones to reach out to and educate. There are likely thousands just like them lurking here as well. Your beliefs and philosophies are yours to hold and advocate. We wish you well. What is hoped, is that you will learn to do so using the means of the Bonobo.

It is great that you choose to be christian, and vegan. But don’t become chimpanzee zealots for these belief systems. Don’t give yourself to unnatural men. You are not machines.

We all want to help each other. We want to live by each others happiness. Not by each others misery. Human beings are like that. In this world there is room for everyone. The good earth is rich and can provide for everyone, the way of life can be free and beautiful. (Charlie Chaplin – Great Dictator – Called a Commie and Exiled to England For This)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr-MXw5UDCk

Also Spoke Zarthustra – Nietzsche
http://philosophy.eserver.org/nietzsche-zarathustra.txt

Eric has posed THE question which someone MUST find a satisfactory answer to, if we wish to live in independence and dignity.

The “chimps” are here and also everywhere. They will not allow us to go our own way. They will not relinquish their tactics and stratgems of control. Accordingly, we “bonobos” will have to DO SOMETHING. The question is, exactly what is THAT SOMETHING we must do?
– – – –
Thus Spoke Zarathustra Quotes:

“The higher we soar the smaller we appear to those who cannot fly.”

“I am a forest, and a night of dark trees: but he who is not afraid of my darkness, will find banks full of roses under my cypresses.”

“Become who you are!”

“There is more wisdom in your body than in your deepest philosophy.”

“I want to have goblins about me, for I am courageous. The courage which scareth away ghosts, createth for itself goblins–it wanteth to laugh.”

“But it is the same with man as with the tree. The more he seeks to rise into the height and light, the more vigorously do his roots struggle earthword, downword, into the dark, the deep – into evil.”

“You look up when you wish to be exalted. And I look down because I am exalted.”

“Man is a rope stretched between the animal and the Superman–a rope over an abyss.

I love him who desires not too many virtues. One virtue is more of a virtue than two, because it is more of a knot for one’s destiny to cling to.

I love him whose soul is lavish, who wants no thanks and does not give back: for he always bestows, and desires not to keep for himself.

“I change too quickly: my today refutes my yesterday. When I ascend I often jump over steps, and no step forgives me that.”

“You know these things as thoughts, but your thoughts are not your experiences, they are an echo and after-effect of your experiences: as when your room trembles when a carriage goes past. I however am sitting in the carriage, and often I am the carriage itself. In a man who thinks like this, the dichotomy between thinking and feeling, intellect and passion, has really disappeared. He feels his thoughts. He can fall in love with an idea. An idea can make him ill.”

“You say ‘I’ and you are proud of this word. But greater than this- although you will not believe in it – is your body and its great intelligence, which does not say ‘I’ but performs ‘I’.”

“Blessed are the sleepy ones: for they shall soon fall off.”

“The real man wants two different things: danger and play. Therefore he wants woman, as the most dangerous plaything.”

“One must be a sea, to receive a polluted stream without becoming impure.”

“Close beside my knowledge lies my black ignorance.”

“Have you ever said Yes to a single joy? O my friends, then you have said Yes too to all woe. All things are entangled, ensnared, enamored; if ever you wanted one thing twice, if ever you said, “You please me, happiness! Abide moment!” then you wanted all back. All anew, all eternally, all entangled, ensnared, enamored–oh then you loved the world. Eternal ones, love it eternally and evermore; and to woe too, you say: go, but return! For all joy wants–eternity.”

“But thus do I counsel you, my friends: distrust all in whom the impulse to punish is powerful!”

“I would only believe in a god who could dance. And when I saw my devil I found him serious, thorough, profound, and solemn: it was the spirit of gravity—through him all things fall. Not by wrath does one kill but by laughter. Come, let us kill the spirit of gravity!”

“You tell me: ‘Life is hard to bear.’ But if it were otherwise why should you have your pride in the morning and your resignation in the evening? Life is hard to bear: but do not pretend to be so tender! We are all of us pretty fine asses burden!”

“Weariness that wants to reach the ultimate with one leap, with one fatal leap, a poor ignorant weariness that does not want to want any more: this created all gods and afterworlds.”

“It was the sick and decaying who despised the body and earth and invented the heavenly realm and the redemptive drops of blood: but they took even these sweet and gloomy poisons from body and earth. They wanted to escape their own misery, and the stars were too far for them.”

“Behold! I am weary of my wisdom, like the bee that has gathered too much honey; I need hands outstretched to take it from me. I wish to spread it and bestow it, until the wise have once more become joyous in their folly, and the poor happy in their riches.”

“Something unappeased, unappeasable, is within me.”

“I want to speak to the despisers of the body. I would not have them learn and teach differently, but merely say farewell to their own bodies– and thus become silent.”

“I hate you most because you attract, but are not strong enough to pull me to you.”

“And if a friend does you wrong, then say: “I forgive you what you have done to me; that you have done it to YOURSELF, however–how could I forgive that!”

“The happiness of man is: I will. The happiness of woman is: he wills. ‘Behold, just now the world became perfect!’—thus thinks every woman when she obeys out of entire love. And women must obey and find a depth for her surface. Surface is the disposition of woman: a mobile, stormy film over shallow water. Man’s disposition, however, is deep; his river roars in subterranean caves: woman feels his strength but does not comprehend it.”

“How lovely it is that there are words and sounds. Are not words and sounds rainbows and illusive bridges between things which are eternally apart?”

“I fear you close by; I love you far away.”

“Disobedience- that is the nobility of slaves.”

“You should seek your enemy, you should wage your war – a war for your opinions. And when your opinion is defeatedy our honesty should still cry triumph over that!”

“The wisest man would be the one richest in contradictions, who has, as it were, antennae for all types of men—as well as his great moments of grand harmony—a rare accident even in us! A sort of planetary motion—”

“What do you plan to do in the land of the sleepers? You have been floating in a sea of solitude, and the sea has borne you up. At long last, are you ready for dry land? Are you ready to drag yourself ashore?”

“Here the spirit becomes a lion who would conquer his freedom and be master. Who is the great dragon whom the spirit will no longer call lord and go? ‘Thou shalt’ is the name of the great dragon. But the spirit of the lion says, ‘I will.”

“the inability to lie is far from being in love with the truth. Be on your guard! … He who cannot lie, doth not know what truth is.”

“Dead are all gods: now we want the overman to live.”

“And to me also, who appreciate life, the butterflies, and soap-bubbles, and whatever is like them amongst us, seem most to enjoy happiness.”

It is significant that we are cut off from the reality of the meat we purchase.

I would appreciate observing the entire life span of the animals that end up on my dinner table.

I think it might definitely lessen my appetite for “meat”.

Talk about the power of words and propaganda. That’s not a dead animal carcass you’re gnawing on. It’s “meat” which is supposed to be eaten.

What is unseen in the market is often of great significance.

Potential Market Solution – In Vitro Meat Cookbook – Fundraising Campaign
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-in-vitro-meat-cookbook

Cultured Meat Production
http://new-harvest.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Invitro.pdf

Not ready for widespread sale, but possibly of use for potential long term space missions

Future food – in vitro meat
http://www.futurefood.org/in-vitro-meat/index_en.php

welcome blakmira,
“Let me introduce some material sympathetic both pro and con” is what my team of 100 monkey commenters meant to type. Yet again, I’m made a monkey out of.

The “Rights” of Animals – Murray Rothbard
http://mises.org/daily/2581/

welcome blakmira,
Let me introduce some material sympathetic both pro and con to your line of “thick libertarian” inquiry. Here goes:

A Libertarian Replies to Tibor Machan’s ‘Why Animal Rights Don’t Exist’

The most compelling argument for animal rights goes as follows: There are people, such as very young kids, and those in a coma, who possess minimal mental powers, who cannot be blamed, held responsible, etc., yet they have rights. Doesn’t that show that animals other than human beings can also have rights?

The ‘Rights’ of Animals – Murray Rothbard

Individuals possess rights not because we “feel” that they should, but because of a rational inquiry into the nature of man. Man has rights because they are natural rights grounded in the nature of man.

The individual man’s capacity for conscious choice, the necessity for him to use his mind and energy to adopt goals and values, to find out about the world, to pursue his ends in order to survive and prosper, his capacity and need to communicate and interact with other human beings and to participate in the division of labor.

In short, man is a rational and social animal. No other animals or beings possess this ability to reason, to make conscious choices, to transform their environment in order to prosper, or to collaborate consciously in society and the division of labor.

There is, in fact, rough justice in the common quip that “we will recognize the rights of animals whenever they petition for them.” The fact that animals can obviously not petition for their “rights” is part of their nature, and part of the reason why they are clearly not equivalent to, and do not possess the rights of, human beings.

And if it be protested that babies can’t petition either, the reply of course is that babies are future human adults, whereas animals obviously are not.

“The MC1R gene is responsible for pigmentation in all mammals, and a mutation in it serves to make pigs pink and red pandas red. There’s even reason to believe there were a few ginger-colored woolly mammoths in the world. So do orangutans, a great ape like us, possess a greater tolerance for pain, or a weaker one, and are they hot-headed sex-crazed nutjobs?” (from gingers article at bottom of this comment)

Human red hair is a recessive genetic trait caused by a series of mutations in the melanocortin 1 receptor (MC1R), a gene located on chromosome 16
http://www.eupedia.com/genetics/origins_of_red_hair.shtml

Some neandertals had red hair
http://scienceblogs.com/gnxp/2007/10/25/neandertals-had-red-hair-ok-so/

Why orangutans have reddish brown hair & grey-black skin
http://animalsunlimited.co.uk/why-do-orang-utans-have-red-orange-hair/

Orangutan taxonomy
http://pin.primate.wisc.edu/factsheets/entry/orangutan/taxon

Comparative and demographic analysis of orangutan genomes – (interesting and surprising info)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3060778/

Gingers – the Quantum Biologist
http://quantumbiologist.wordpress.com/2010/09/24/gingers/

Dear Clover,
So all this time you’ve been getting your “facts” from the advertorial site sheknows.com. Figures.

As a women’s lifestyle media platform, SheKnows allows brands to distribute authentic content and integrated advertising at scale. We reveal unexpected insights on women and technology. Our editors and trendsetters influence brand preferences and build brand loyalty.

What are the odds? 21 Statistics that will surprise you – by Heather Barnett
http://www.sheknows.com/living/articles/1023453/what-are-the-odds-21-statistics-that-will-surprise-you

I am posting this additional sheknows article, in the hopes that your significant other sees it on your computer and he/she realizes the best thing to do is get away from you as fast as possible.

9 Not-so-noticeable signs you’re dating a psychopath
http://www.sheknows.com/love-and-sex/articles/990127/9-not-so-noticeable-signs-youre-dating-a-psychopath

Also from sheknows:

Girls Rule – Empowering girls everywhere #Bossyis
http://corporate.sheknows.com/causes

The “Dee” is short for Democracy.

clover means he ‘couldn’t care less’

Joaquin Phoenix’s imaginary girlfriend “Her” seemingly appears as an apparition on his forehead
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2b8_1405520192

FHRITHP-ist demoralizes mainstream BBC statist anthroapologist
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=09f_1405540629

Denial of scarcity (property, money).

Denying scarcity is a favorite of utopian socialists. The purpose of property is to solve the scarcity problem – that man’s desires exceed available goods.

This DOS myth simply assumes away scarcity, as if this human condition was merely an effect of a particular property system rather than a fact of reality and human nature.

The socialist denial of the validity of property involves an internal contradiction and much resulting “double-think.” Proudhon writes that he’s against contract property, but for possession property; yet he refuses to acknowledge that his “possession” is a type of property.

Another naive denial of scarcity is the claim of some socialists that a modern society can get along without money. AnCaps believe an economy needs the informational function of money to balance supply and demand.

Without the amalgamation of the desires and preferences of the producers and consumers into price, chaos results. Shortages and surpluses abound when the communication of preferences is prevented or co-opted by rulers.

Money is simply and ultimately the most liquid commodity in a market. There will always be a most liquid commodity in any market; ergo, there will be something used as money.

Other liquid commodities might be
gonadotropin releasing events (sex, driving really fast) . Recreational social gatherings (for cortisol normalizing and burden dispersal)

AnCap FAQ
http://www.ozarkia.net/bill/anarchism/faq.html

Libertarian Capitlist Diamandis of Googuhl says Abundance Is Our Future
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRp3DfRI3bA

How much scarcity is politically imposed, versus truly being systemic scarcity?

Chimps become angry that Elon Musk has so much more wealth and power than they. The seek egalitarianism imposed by force.

Bonobos are content if they have what they feel they need. If you have a car, house, family, you’re fairly happy with, why should you care about those who arguably have “more” and “better” than you.

It is the Chimp mind that wants to smash, and equalize things through subtraction and division.

Bonobos believe in addition. Multiplication. They understand that taking a moment to ensure nearby Chimps don’t feel they’re at a red threat level of scarcity, but rather feel the status is yellow or green, are less likely to attack and destroy.

Modern Phenom of BS Jobs
http://www.smh.com.au/national/public-service/the-modern-phenomenon-of-nonsense-jobs-20130831-2sy3j.html

EWAU Chapter 34
http://erectuswalksamongst.us/Chap34.html

Whatever may be the sociological value of the legal fiction that ‘all men are born free and equal,’ there can be no doubt that in its biological application, at any rate, this statement is one of the most stupendous falsehoods ever uttered by man through his misbegotten gift of articulate speech.”

EWAU Chapter 36 – Morality: “Morality is man’s servant, not his master.” Technosocialists’ egalitarian altruism, taken to its logical conclusion, will mean the collapse of advanced society.

Ayn Rand takes this implication the farthest, suggesting that it is a virtue to act in one’s own interests; she condemns altruism, sacrificing one’s own interests for the benefit of others, even if it is voluntary.

This she does on the basis that people are not “things,” here to serve others, but autonomous beings who have the right to survive and live for themselves.

http://erectuswalksamongst.us/Chap36.html

The empathy that we feel for other creatures is a creation of nature, the mirror neurons in our brain. Empathy motivates us to help those who are around us, based on their genetic similarity to us, i.e., how many of our alleles they have. That is why we care deeply about our babies, some for our pet dog or cat, little for the mouse in the house, and not at all for the spider on the glider.

Empathy arose long before television and instant worldwide communications, when the only people anyone knew lived in the same geographical vicinity and were closely related.

Now, mal-adaptively, a person can feel more empathy for someone on the other side of the planet, who is suffering on television, but who shares few alleles and socialized behaviors with him, than he can for his own children sitting right beside him.

There will always be scarcity. There is simply no two ways about it. Well I suppose if you could find a way for humans to stop wanting more than they absolutely need then maybe it could be done away with. But once again humans being what they are they will want something more all the time. Better coffee or better booze. A nicer house or prettier wife, etc etc etc.

The communists and socialists thought they could tackle aggression by providing an equal amount of crap to everyone. Even if they could have done so it still wouldn’t have taken care of the problem of scarcity. Someone was going to have the nicest lot on the lake or the apartment with the nicest view. Someone was going to have the best seat in the theater or restaurant. Someone was going to have a newer car or bike, etc etc etc.

Anarcho-capitalism relies on the fact that there will always be scarcity.

The Bonobo ethny must find or create market solutions:

1 that erect an equivalent of a force field among us
2 protect us and our gulch from the Chimp ethny
3 develop faster transportation and other technological advantages
4 keep our secrets secret. find ways to communicate that exclude Chimps from sensitive proprietary info

A: Chimps are loathe to let us go our own way. (This is so IMHO because we have things they need to make them go. Can we alter that belief? Make them think we have nothing for them? Make them believe we’d rather lose dominance struggles to them than give them any more things they need)

Enter EWAU work is available online in easy access html form

Erectus Walks Among Us
http://erectuswalksamongst.us/

excerpts from Richard Fuerle’s Erectus Walks Amongst Us.

Excerpt Number 1, from Chapter 4:

Nature has no soft feelings, no empathy for the weak and helpless, and is not trying to make any particular type of individual. The end product is whatever succeeded in reproducing, regardless of how despicable, degrading, or degenerate we find it to be. Reproduce more than others and you stay in the game; otherwise, you’re out. Permanently.

When different ethny live in the same territory, their relationship will not for long be a mutually beneficial one. Instead, one ethny will be a predator and the other its prey, or one ethny will be a parasite and the other its host. In both cases, the prey or host does not consent and therefore neither relationship is stable.

In a predator-prey relationship, the predator ethny uses open violence against the prey ethny, e.g., colonialism, slavery, war, local gangs.

In a parasite-host relationship, however, open violence by the parasitic ethny is not possible as the host ethny is more numerous and is militarily dominant. Moreover, the host ethny regards the parasitic activities of the parasitic ethny as unfair, unethical, immoral, illegal, or criminal, making it necessary for the parasitic ethny to either
conceal its parasitism so that the host ethny is not aware that it is being parasitized or
incapacitate its host ethnye so that even though its host ethny is aware that it is being parasitized, it is unable to free itself.

Both require controlling the media and the government — a “covert coup.” These tactics are major and expensive operations requiring years to put into place. They are therefore available only to a parasitic ethny that has access to a great deal of wealth.

When the host ethny discovers that it is being parasitized, and it is able to free itself, the parasite-host relationship ends, perhaps not pleasantly for those in the parasitic ethny. Neither a predator-prey relationship nor a parasite-host relationship is likely to last indefinitely because conflict is inherent in both relationships.

There are two possible resolutions of ethnyist conflict over territory:
one ethnyv wins and destroys or expels the other or
the ethnies interbreed and become a single ethny.

Expelling the parasitic ethny preserves the genetic uniqueness of both ethnies; interbreeding destroys it.

Individuals within the parasitic ethny develop a set of values, even a religion, that justifies their parasitism, simply because those individuals who feel their behavior is their right and feel no remorse, shame, or guilt are more effective parasites and are therefore reproductively more successful.

Individuals in the parasitic ethny are therefore selected for a lack of empathy, i.e., for sociopathy; such individuals differ genetically from everyone else in that their mirror neurons, which enable people to empathize with the feelings of others, are absent or turned off. The parasitic ethny will rather quickly achieve a high percentage of sociopaths, people who are charismatic, charming, and often well-liked, but whose only goal in life is winning, i.e., defeating those outside their ethny.

The parasitic ethny cannot become less virulent, as microbial parasites do, because they are too invested – genetically, socially, religiously, and culturally – in their parasitic lifestyle, and less parasitic individuals within their ethny are selected against even by others in their own ethny, i.e., they do not rise to positions of influence within their ethny.

http://erectuswalksamongst.us/Preface.html

Much of what people are told in schools and in the media today just isn’t so. There are knowledgeable people who know it isn’t so, but they dare not say anything.

The rest of us live in this sea of misinformation. Since almost everyone believes the prevailing misinformation, we assume it must be true. So we act on it, making important decisions about our lives, decisions that all too often are disastrous.

    Now, in my waning years, I can see no contribution I could make to the next generation more important than to challenge what I believe to be at least some of these erroneous beliefs.

To encourage the dissemination of this book, it is being published without royalties and may be copied, with attribution, without liability to the author. I hope to make it available on the internet without charge, as I have done with my other books.

    Very little is held back in this book. An effort was made to avoid unnecessary insensitivity, but shocking facts, even facts that some will find offensive, are displayed right out in the open where they cannot be missed.

Technical language is avoided where possible and explained where used. Large amounts of additional material could have been included, but after working on this almost full time for about four years, I’ve decided it’s time to call it quits.

Silly Bonobo Song

Some Chimpy People Say They’ve Had Enough Of Silly Love Songs. But I Look Around & See We Need More Bonobo.
Bonobo People Wanna Make The World A Silly Love Song.
And What’s Wrong With That?
I’d Like To Know, ‘Cause Here I Go Again
I Love You, I Love You, I Love You, I Love You.

I Can’t Explain The Feeling’s Plain To Me; Say Can’t You See? Ah, She Gave Me More, She Gave It All To Me
Now Can’t You See, What’s Wrong With That I Need To Know, ‘Cause Here I Go Again I Love You, I Love You.

Bonobo Love Won’t Come In A Minute,
Some Say It’ll Never Come At All
I Only Know That When I’m In It
It Isn’t Silly, No, It Isn’t Silly, Love Isn’t Silly At All.

How Can I Tell You About My Bonobo Love?
How Can I Tell You About My Bonobo Love?

How Can I Tell You About My Bonobo Love?
(I Love you)
How Can I Tell You About My Bonobo Love?
(I Love you)

Survival of the flirtiest?
http://io9.com/5794988/are-humans-more-like-chimps-or-bonobos-the-correct-answer-is-changing

Rather than go down the alleys of non-heterogeny, which the CDC will tell you entails 1.6% gay and 0.7% bi, an alternative method, would be to bird dog potential hookings up and gettings together for all.

Maybe there’s a 1% female population, who would be comfortable being much more active than they now are, who could singlehandedly alleviate scarcity. Maybe 20% of men with plenty of options, could spread their wealth around, and in turn enjoy greater status and group esteem from the grateful men now filled with excess cortisol and raging from deprivations.

Didn’t Vietnam win the war thru Bonobo strategies. They were always to be found in larger groups, than the isolated loner Americans. (fellow soldiers are a group in name only.) Wasn’t all of Vietnam considered one giant brothel.

There was no shortage of sex. A villager with several daughters saw no shame in offering one daughter as (erectile)cannon fodder shall we say.

A Bonobo thing to do, would be to jettison all negative talk of sexually active females PRONTO. Forget handicapped parking, and respecting one’s elders. They’re not scarce.

What about top spots, best discounts, all red carpets all the time for the glue of Bonobo society, the socially sexual females, especially the more attractive ones.

Forget Forbes dollar billionaires. What about sexual attractive and mating billionaire equivalents. High value Vulvas, are to be the new silver and gold standard.

Forget war stories. Let’s create and regale with Joy Division and Comfort Women stories. Idealized ones of how they should have been. Not the scandalous crappy Chimp Rapes they may have often been.

What about Kama Sutra Sunnie Tzu, wife of Sun, the Sex Goddess of War strategems.

It’s probably gonna sound icky however I broach the subject. I was raised a Chimp in my formative years, it’s likely too late to change my tune.
http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/21st-century-pacifist/2012/apr/27/soldiers-and-prostitution-what-shock/

But it doesn’t have to be for the young, and the newborns, the seeds of a new world can be planted today. The Bonobo Generation can be begotten.

MLNW make love not war. SPND spread pleasure not displeasure. These need work, and Bonobo creativeness, I may be to Chimpanic to pull off.

E&E not I&E Excite and Engage not Incite and Enrage

E=MC^2 isn’t the most important equation. Number of relations and pleasurable encounters is the monkey’s grease quantums to calculize that makes the NAP world go round.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Vietnam#Prostitution_and_the_Vietnam_War

During the Vietnam War, a whole sex industry sprung up around American servicemembers.[8] Prostitutes would congregate at bars where service members would frequent, and offer their services. Sometimes, the prostitutes and women who had intercourse would get pregnant. The resulting Amerasian children, of whom there were estimated to be about 50,000, were ostracized and given the derisive name bui doi (“dirt of life”). Often, these children were themselves forced into prostitution.[9]

During the war, hooch maids would often clean up after the soldiers in their dwellings. One soldier described the maids as being, “…good Catholics who might flirt with you but would never date an American soldier.” At the same time it was not unheard of for maids to “keep the plumbing clean” for soldiers in order to earn some extra income

Hearts and Minds 1974
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d2ml82lc7s

– there’s a right way to bring this up, that doesn’t feel pushy and Chimpy, I’m not the best one, I hope other sources can be found or others can chime in if there be any merit to this premise.

No, it won’t be easy, but like any puzzle, you start somewhere and try to solve. Use a pencil in this case, because most things suggested, will likely be erased, many times.

Who is more Bonobo, than American Chimps? Maybe for the sake of argument, let’s say French. This text to be altered as needed.

France – The People

The French adhere to a strong and homogeneous set of values. They embrace novelty, new ideas and manners with enthusiasm as long as they are elegant.

Meeting and Greeting
At a business or social meeting, shake hands with everyone present when arriving and leaving. Usually when you arrive to post comments here, you say good morning BrentP, Bevin, etc.

IRL never miss an opportunity to shake hands with a woman.

When family and close friends greet one another, they often kiss both cheeks. Here do as much as you can stand and get away with.

Names and Titles

Use preferred names and acknowledge accomplishments when the chance arises. You are a mechanic. Brent is an engineer. Bevin is an architect and a son of a diplomat. Etc. Everyone is all about themselves, the Bonobo ways is to be about the others, and hopefully the other Bonobos will be about you.

IRL I try to address people as chief captain, sweetheart hon, especially kids like young lady, young man, in a way that lets them know being YOUNG is a term implying the highest of labels, only where it fits of course, people respond to familiarity and simplistic labels of importance/affection.

Body Language

When others seem Bonobo, make them the center of your attention and star of your world. When they are going Chimp, ignore them, check your phone, stare out the window at the TV screen. Make them feel invisible and non-existent until the cease.

In my case I am either highly professional or childishly playful as I feel is warranted needed by those around me.

Always be highly skilled, knowledgeable. What you don’t know, know someone who knows it. Hard work is admired, but only insofar as there’s a human Bonobo beneficiary. Don’t slave away for a Chimp, regardless of who they are.

Prepare in advance. Keep your mind running all the time. Sleep is an excellent time to figure things out. Try to dream about a new Bonobo world. Imagine those people in your life as they truly are, now how they could be, if they became more Bonobo.

Learn others languages. Ignore their Chimp speak. Refuse to follow Chimp protocols, do what’s expected, if you feel it’s not Bonobo like to do it.

Always encourage the other to discuss their personal life. Let people tell you their story. Just listen, if you have something useful to contribute to their lives and concerns, offer it, but don’t judge. Avoid comparing anyone to anyone else.

Get down to business quickly, but make decisions slowly after much deliberation. Stay on task, get the important things handled right up front, whatever they are. Don’t worry about perfection, or other peoples approvals. Expect Chimpanzic criticisms, try not to really hear them, and DON’T respond, especially in a knee jerk way.

Eschew all the usual niceties. Seek situations taht are highly centralized with a powerful chief. Bosses and people worth being with are often dictatorial and authoritative, just accept it, consider it the price of being with greatness.

Try to find a place where you won’t be disturbed, forget the usual criteria. Find somewhere quiet with low traffic and conflict, where others who want you will come to you or not.

Curb your proclivities to disagree and debating in general way in public, but enjoy a controlled debate, whereby an informed rebuttal is appreciated. Where there is an opportunity for acquiring answers and knowledge.

The purpose of human meetings is to brief/coordinate and clarify issues. State your intentions directly and openly.
Be well prepared, comprehensive, clear, well-written, informative and present in a formal, rational, professional manner — appealing always to the intellect.

Don’t put others on the spot. Never try the hard sell approach. Things get done indirectly through a network of personal relationships and alliances.

Dining and Entertainment
Encourage others to engage in their preferred libations. Always be more sober than them. You want their inhibitions to lower, not yours.

Never discuss business and grill people with questions if avoidable. Everything is most importantly a social occasion and a time to enjoy good food, drink, discussion, and company.

When being private, be private. When being social go all out. Find loud places, with smoking, drinking, carousing, letting go, where cortisols are being released. Being a Bonobo is about being in balance, and being happy.

If nothing else in life goes right, at least always take time to enjoy the comforts of social camaraderie. Don’t skimp here. Don’t allow any Chimps to take this away from you, no matter who they are.

Leaving food or anything your host or friend makes for you is impolite. Find away to hide it, gulp it down and purge later.

Always thank everyone for everything. And welcome them also.

Gifts
I am the worst gift giver, and don’t do this. But a small thoughtful gift can have an impact unlike almost anything else.

A gift should be simple of high quality and wrapped beautifully.

Lower your voice a little and behave graciously, let the others be louder and heard, watch people’s responses so that you will enjoy warm responses

Never breach anyone’s privacy. Don’t ask personal questions related to occupation, salary, age, family or children unless you have a well-established friendship. Even then, let them bring these things up.

Try to demonstrate some knowledge of conversational subjects. Have jokes ready. Become an engaging storyteller.

Compliments are always appreciated, regardless of responses, use them liberally, try to be imaginative and offer compliments they haven’t heard before. Be intelligent and satirically witty. Let others know you are one of them. Tell stories of real life situations, especially ones where you are not at your best. Engage in negative bragging. Talk yourself down. Undersell yourself.

Learn to pick up signals. Recognize when you’re being flirted with. Know when it’s appropriate to do some light hearted flirting. Don’t expect any kind of response. Expect others to be self centered, and take that as a sign of success that you aren’t burdening them in any way.

Pay for others in small ways. Learn to accept others paying for you, no matter how hard it is at first. This is all out of my rectal cranium lobe, but one must start somewhere.

Short version of article that would be easy to implement in a human phyle/prepper-community by choosing the right people: All Bonobo females are ready to put out, they lower tensions by sexual activities, often not resulting in orgasm.

Bonobos always have unlimited food. They’re in an area of Africa with fewer predators than regular chimps. They eat a far wider variety of food.

Lesson to learn: By forming a society without scarcity of sex and food, aggression is greatly reduced. Everyone’s happier, no one is traumatized, nothing is destroyed.

That’s what governments need to exist. Coercion. Scarcity. They’re always increasing one or the other. Each one feeds the other.

Anarchist Libertarians can’t fix the world, but they can become similar to a small troop of bonobos. Over a relatively short time, we can begin the long process of totally diverging from the mainstream chimpanzee type humans, and whatever happens, never look back.

We need the right sort of people who can prevent scarcities of sex, food, and property. Who don’t resort to coercion and violence to solve problems or get what they want.

We all can be scientists of bonoboism. Everywhere you look there is coercion. Consider the leisure activity of TV as one example. Every minute is 100% coerced. Everything is scripted, many levels of chimpanzees are watching these actor’s every move and word, no deviation is allowed. Nothing live and spontaneous is allowed. Everything is prerecorded, scheduled, controlled down to every detail.

This is true nearly everywhere in our chimpanzee societies. We run our families using coercion. Going to the store, anyone at a job is under coercion. Driving the road is nonstop coercion. In our friendships. In our sexual relationships. Everywhere is coercion.

This can stop with you. Don’t demand respect. Courtesy. Good service. Don’t expect anything. Boss, kids, wife threatens you. Give them strategy advice, tell them without emotion, what there best move is. Maybe they should fire you, divorce you, whatever. If you love something, only hold onto it using bonobo approved means.

This can start with you. Flirt with everyone. The uglier the better. If there’s a plausible opportunity to put an arm on someone’s shoulder do so. You don’t have to go full bonobo, every little bit of affection and feeling of attractiveness and wantedness makes all the difference.

– – – – article paraphrase begins – – – –
The bonobo, in case you haven’t heard, carries a reputation as the “make love, not war” member of the ape lineage, far lustier and less bellicose than its close cousin, the chimpanzee.

Studies of zoo populations have documented its easy, pervasive sexuality and its propensity for amicable bonding (especially among females), in contrast with chimpanzee dominance battles (especially among males) and intergroup warfare.

Early one morning I followed a researcher into the forest. Promptly I saw things that, according to the popular image of the species, I might not have expected. Bonobos quarreled. They hunted for meat. They went hours at a stretch without having sex. This was the animal so renowned for its lubricious, pacific social life?

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2013/03/125-bonobos/quammen-text

The major distinctions between bonobos and chimps are behavioral, and the most conspicuous do involve sex. Both in captivity and in the wild, bonobos practice a remarkable diversity of sexual interactions.

“Whereas the chimpanzee shows little variation in the sexual act, bonobos behave as if they have read the Kama Sutra, performing every position and variation one can imagine.”

For instance, they mate in the missionary position, something virtually unknown among chimpanzees. But their sexiness isn’t just about mating.

Most of those variations are sociosexual, meaning that they don’t entail copulation between an adult male and an adult female during her fertile period.

The range of partners includes an adult with a juvenile of either sex, and two juveniles together. The range of activities includes mouth-to-mouth kissing, oral sex, genital caressing by hand, and genito-genital rubbing (G-G rubbing is the shorthand term) by two estrous females, who moosh their swollen vulvas back and forth against each other in a spate of feverish sisterly cordiality.

Usually there’s no orgasm culminating these activities. Their social purpose seems to be communication of various sorts: expression of goodwill, calming of excitement, greeting, tension relief, bonding, solicitation of food sharing, and reconciliation.

To that list of benefits we might also add sheer pleasure and (for the juveniles) instructional play. Varied and frequent and often nonchalant, sex is a widely applied social lubricant that helps keep bonobo politics amiable. “The chimpanzee resolves sexual issues with power; the bonobo resolves power issues with sex.”

Sexiness isn’t the only big difference between bonobos and chimps, though it’s probably linked to other differences, either as cause or as effect.

Females, not males, hold the highest social rankings, which they seem to achieve by affable social networking (such as G-G rubbing) rather than by forming temporary alliances and fighting, as male chimpanzees do.

Bonobo communities don’t wage violent wars against other bonobo communities adjacent to their territory. They forage during daytime in more stable and often larger parties, with sometimes as many as 15 or 20 individuals moving together from one source of food to another, and they cluster their nests at night, presumably for mutual security.

Their diet, which is similar to the usual chimpanzee diet in most respects—fruit, leaves, a bit of animal protein when they can get it—differs in one signal way: Bonobos eat a lot of the herby vegetation that is abundant in all seasons—big reedy stuff like cornstalks and starchy tubers like arrowroot—which offers nutritious shoots and young leaves and pith inside the stems, rich in protein and sugars.

Bonobos, then, have an almost inexhaustible supply of reliable munchies. So they don’t experience lean times, hunger, and competition for food as acutely as chimpanzees do. That fact may have had important evolutionary implications.

Bonobos and chimps diverged from each other 900,000 years ago, and from us 7 million years ago.

Analyzing samples, scientists found a surprising pattern: high levels of cortisol, a stress-related hormone, in some bonobo males.

Cortisol levels have been especially elevated among high-ranking males in the presence of estrous females. What does it imply? That a high-ranking bonobo male, walking a fine line between not enough machismo (which could cost him his status among males) and too much machismo (which could cost him his mating opportunities with imperious females), feels stressed by his complex situation.

Bonobos eschew crude aggression and violence, but they’re not carefree; they use sociosexual behaviors, diverse and relatively frequent, as a means of conflict management. “This is what makes them different,” [they have something to lose by chimping out] “not that everything is peaceful.”

Neanderthals, as I learned about them, were a species that took care of their own. They may have interbred with us, and given that we were around at the same time, it makes sense that they did. The idea that they would hunt and eat us is a new one to me. However, modern humans have been known to eat one another from archaeological digs and from history. (so even if they did, it is not like we are innocent in that regard as a species) I do not think it is fair to say that the species with the bigger brain must have been more primitive than us, given the evidence we have that shows that they did take care of each other. (The bones, that were at first used to make Neanderthals look like they had a bowlegged stance, were looked at a second time and discovered to have been warped such that the individual concerned could not have lived until the time of death without external aid.) I do not think it right to slander an extinct species to make a point… I am for the Non Aggression Principle as the best way for government to deal with the rest of us. Let us live without fear of aggression so long as we are not harming another.

Howdy guys, it’s been awhile.

I have said for a long time that human being are not fully evolved at all. Not even close. We need an evolution of understanding when it comes to NAP.

Most people agree that liberty is preferable to subjugation. Yet they can’t seem to understand that Liberty is the absence of force. They can’t begin to consider the slightest possibility that we could live together in a society with mutual cooperation. Whenever you bring up NAP with the average homoignoramus all you get are objections stating that it can’t be done. Who will build the roads, etc etc etc. Also it doesn’t matter how many ways that you answer this question they will continue to object. After all force is all they have ever know in their entire pathetic lives. Not only do they accept this use of force they embrace it with all their hearts. They can’t comprehend that they are always going to be the ones getting this force applied to themselves. They simply see it as a way of using that force against others. They are so shortsighted that it never once occurs to them that as soon as they accept the use of force as a legitimate means of getting what they want that it will inevitably come back to haunt them.

Live by the sword and die by the sword.

Nice article, Eric. Shows a right understanding of NAP. I never bought the man-ape connection myself, but whatever works to illustrate your point. Personally, I have lived my life trying, and not always succeeding, to follow the idea of “Do unto others….” The NAP works well among individuals, but falls apart collectively, at least so far in human history. Realistically, this generation nor any other will see the libertarian utopia we might dream of. Too bad.
I like the philosophy of my Rottweiler, George. He will leave you alone and mind his own business, plays well with others, but if you mess with him in an unseemly or threatening way he’ll rip your throat out.
In other words, if you want to be left alone to pursue your version of happiness, make it extremely painful for anyone who wishes you ill.
Don’t be the aggressor, but don’t let aggression overwhelm you.

Uncle Bill

Keep up the great work Eric!

You are making a difference. 🙂

Lots of good points, though I daresay that the NAP hardly needs this much explanation. The fact is the problems of this world do not exist simply because people are unaware of the NAP, they exist because a lot of people are simply ignorant, self serving dicks. Before you call this assessment too simplistic, test it for yourself sometime.

That fact notwithstanding, Eric’s choice to make the comparison between Homo Sapiens and Neanderthal is more enlightening than most of you (Eric included) may know. The reason is the rise of a fantastic new theory called Neanderthal Predation Theory, which may be one of the finest scientific theories of the last half century, especially given that it was not borne of any agenda or any public or corporate sponsorship. NPT destroys the idea that Neanderthals were “just like us” or that we lived and mated together as brother species. Rather it draws on a solid set of established facts to show that, like gorillas, our next closest genetic sibling, Neanderthals looked and acted nothing like us, but rather were vicious and cunning apex predators (“wolves with knives”) that raped and killed and ate us almost into extinction, a fact also well supported by genetics. This heavy evolutionary pressure, and a distinct set of offshoots of it, is what made our physiology so different from our primate cousins while refining our critical and strategic thinking, toolmaking abilities, and communal mindset. It goes on to detail how Homo Sapiens ultimately drew on strategy, intelligence and a deep desire to protect their own to ultimately turn the tables on their much stronger, meaner and more violent foe. The theory ties together over 3000 peer reviewed studies across genetics, archaeology, zoology, geography, physiology and more. It is both fascinating and enlightening on many fronts. But what it ultimately reveals, which is exceedingly relevant to this article, is this: Even though there does come a time for defensive violence, we are ultimately the better, and evolutionarily superior species, precisely because of our capacity for thought, compassion and strategy, rather than any primitive, carnal desire to aggress, maim and kill.

You can learn more about this fantastic theory here : http://www.themandus.org/
Whether or not you care about how it relates to this topic, you will undoubtedly find it refreshing to see true, agenda-free scientific thinking, and the power it has to shape our minds and perspectives. A true rarity in this day and age.

I agree with LRC’s link. There is aggression and there is non-aggression. If there is ANY aggression, it is NOT non-aggression. While there can be physical force used in the training of a child, especially in cases of immediate danger, a la Art above, since your purpose is the well-being of the child, is it still aggression?
I had a similar ‘discussion’ with my (bleeding-heart, tree-hugging) boss about the free market. He was referring to the US economy as a free market and I replied that it was not. He then said something along the lines of “well it’s certainly freer than China or Russia.” And I said “Freer, or more nearly free, is not the same as free.” The free market is like the origin point on a graph, where there is NO interference in the marketplace. ANY deviation from that point, and the market is no longer free.

Gandhi,Tolstoy and many others believed that non aggression was the only way. For the religious Jesus was the ultimate NAP proponent and paid a high price for nonaggression but may have influenced population of the world. (a good thing even if it is a myth)
As for the future, only through a completely open free enterprise (Market) that consists of rejecting any cartel of power that calls it’s self government coupled with commodity money(not fiat) mankind might make it. However, right NOW we must start with our selves and attempt to convince others that government aggression is the bane of world peace and peace and governments cannot coexist. Society does not need government. Government is a parasite on society.

The NAP applied to children is a bone of contention amongst libertarians. Some so called purists justify physical attacks on their children at the rare occasion when a child is too young to understand or refuses to listen to his parent’s command and has put or is putting himself in harm’s way.

Here’s an interesting discussion of this subject especially the comments:http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2014/06/a-comment-on-libertarian-socialist-moyer.html

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Remember the scene with Father Matthew in the 1953 movie, “War of the Worlds”, when he attempted to bring religion to a “more advanced civilization”? — and how Father Matthew was vaporized? Remember that?

What happened to Father Matthew is what’s going to happen to the preachers of “NAP” during the upcoming War of the Collectivists. I write this truth with the utmost respect. There shall come a time— perhaps in a decade or two, maybe sooner— whereupon anybody standing up and talking about “principles” shall be judged by Nature’s Laws, i.e., Nature’s Law of Eating, Nature’s Law of Breeding, Nature’s Law of Ownership, Nature’s Law of Survival and so on and so forth.

The Law of Eating is the most basic of laws and it goes something like this: might eats right. And it also eats everything else that is unable to escape from its clutches, evade it altogether, repel and/or kill it.

amerika (sic) is in the final stages of being fully transmogrified into a might-eats-everything-it-can country. Don’t ever forget that.

Yes we can! Yes we can! Yes we can! That’s the tribe singing about their law, and psyching themselves up for the kill. It’s open season on the producer. And the season shall remain open for 365 days per year after year.

amerika is being populated with a yes-we-can majority. And the yes-we-can majority is receiving reinforcements—tens of millions of them. They shall outnumber NAP followers with their breeding habits alone. Fecund Aliens are invading, overrunning U.S. borders, overwhelming the systems, and being groomed so they can become part of the yes-we-can collective. By the way, as an aside, for those of you salivating for “open borders” you’re going to get them, but it shall be only a one-way opening for those seeking a Permiso Hotel. The collectivist version of open borders is upon you, now. Just try to get seen by a doctor in an emergency room anywhere the Fecund Aliens are present, and you’ll experience the direct result of open borders.

Moreover and more importantly, yes-we-can kids are being produced by the millions in the body-snatching, public schools. The Cloward-Piven method has been perfected, and it won’t be too long, yet, before the yes-we-can amerikans have all others on the run. Another decade or two and the invasion shall be complete, the battles won, and then the war of each collectivist against the other shall begin. Who eats whom will be the focus right after all of the producers have mostly been chewed up and shitted out.

What’s ahead is NAP ( Nature’s Aggression Principle) not “NAP”. The knuckle dragging goon-squads and the armed, government apes shall enforce the highly aggressive laws of nature. During such past-times men like H. L. Mencken kept a low profile. Men like Carl Menger ( who foresaw catastrophe and retired in obscurity for the final 30ys of his life) concealed themselves from the maw of the state. On the other hand, men like Christ became martyrs; and if that’s the way you want to go, fine. I might even join you; but, but, but, and a very big BUT, just realize what you’re getting yourself ( and maybe your family and friends) into for the rest of your shortened life.

The only thing stopping the invasion now is nuclear war, and that’ll stop everything.

I would really like to take a NAP.
But deep down I feel I’m StillaGorilla.

Libertarians have the glee of the atheist child who declares “if God is all good and all powerful He would have not have created evil. However evil exists therefore God as we know Him cannot exist. Q.E.D.” You don’t think theologians have heard that problem before? There a field of theology dedicated to that problem: theodicy.

By the same token Libertarians come up with their little N.A.P. and pat themselves on the back that they found something no one else in history has thought of. In reality the problem and issues as to why humans organise into the structure and societies that they way do is a comprehensive field of study: sociology.

People have noted the phrase that family wealth rarely last 3-4 generations or that civilisations rarely live past 3-4 centuries. There’s the same pattern: initially people are generally hard working and moral to build the wealth, the second wave consume a certain degree of wealth sensibly, the cosy third wave mindlessly spend the wealth and are self-entitled, lazy and/or violent and if there’s not enough decent folk in the fourth waves then the civilisation is extinct.

The fact that these waves were replicated again and again in the Mouse/Rat Utopia experiments doesn’t bode well for the future. I guess many Libertarians are bummed that were born in the degeneration phase as opposed to the wealth creation phase of the early 19th-century but that’s life.

LRC links to this article saying,

“The Non-Aggression Principle
Embrace it, or reject it—there is no in-between”

I -An Individual – says there is, “an in-between”!

I’ve argued this point here at EPA many times.

The head of a family decides that The State has no right to inject vaccines into the children of that family.

… Only the head of that family has the right to decide what injections – if any – the child should receive. Because, as so many adamantly deny, the head of the family, de factO – Owns – that child, until emancipation.

Otherwise, it seems to me, the idea of, ‘The Family” means nothing!

I suggest that the NAP can observe the idea of, ‘The Family’ as an owner of every one within, “the family”,… and the idea of the NAP is still whole.

Emancipation, is key.

The family is the primary factor of production.

…What’s that mean?

Also – if someone insists – who Owns the woman’s body (?) and, when did she terminate her ownership of the production from her body?
Is she not the owner of her own production?
If she gives over herself, and her ownership of her own production, to another (her husband) does the head of the household – the husband – Not own the family?

Is this Not elementary?

If so, a husband has every right to decide if “aggression” is an appropriate punishment to .. for… and whatever reason.

Eh?

I guess I’m trying to show how the N.A.P. aligns with biblical Christianity?
It seems to. Imho.

Otherwise, when you smack your child for trying to touch the Very Hot Thing, you’re violating the N.A.P.
That don’t hardly seem right.

The highest significance of the NAP, as I understand it. Is it prohibits aggression against free trade and voluntary cooperation.

The apes that would win in the competition to ensue after this Fifth Turning, wouldn’t necessarily be those of highest moral distinction. They would be those apes who engage in the most prolific trade and the most productive interaction.

The important distinction between humans and gorillas isn’t that of morality. The distinction is that human dominance is achieved and maintained by means of superior productivity, not by way of superior physical or mental attributes. These means lead to superior wealth, and this wealth ensures more apes superior ability to determine one’s life own life on Earth.

The Gov-zillas in Our Midst dominate through restraint of trade. If you for a moment consider any issue using Gov-zilla mentality, and not human mentality, you are a lost cause.
http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/article/1552939/thailand-warned-it-faces-international-sanctions-over-illegal-ivory-trade

There is no place for Gov-zillas in the ivory market. Or in any market. Trade in ivory is market activity. No Gov-zilla aggression can be tolerated in any kind of trade.

That is where your adherence to the NAP attains true significance. NAP enables you to accept Market Anarchy as a logical imperative. NAP commands you to purge any inner voices that tells you in some case it can every be otherwise.

Excellent synopsis, definitely some food for thought.

Does man, that marvel of the universe… That glorious paradox that sent me to the stars… Still make war against his brother? Keep his neighbor’s children starving? – Taylor – Planet of the Apes

Man has no understanding. He can be taught a few simple tricks. Nothing more. Experimental brain surgery on these creatures is one thing, and I’m all in favor of it. But your behavior studies are another matter.

To suggest that we can learn anything about the simian nature from a study of man is sheer nonsense. Why, man is a nuisance. He eats up his food supply in the forest, then migrates to our green belts and ravages our crops. The sooner he is exterminated, the better. It’s a question of simian survival.

You humans are a menace. A walking pestilence. Have you forgotten your scripture, the thirteenth scroll? “And Proteus brought the upright beast into the garden and chained him to a tree and the children did make sport of him.”

I have always known about man. From the evidence, I believe his wisdom must walk hand and hand with his idiocy. His emotions must rule his brain. He must be a warlike creature who gives battle to everything around him, even himself. – Dr Zaius – Planet of the Apes

Help Me Dr Zaius – Planet of the Apes the Musical

Planet of the Apes – Modern Ending

… sorry, this gorilla/ape metaphor doesn’t work at all in communicating the NAP.

Also, history consistently informs us that aggressive violence works pretty well for many aggressors in looting/exploiting other people. Think of all the wars of conquest throughout history; for example, the Romans did very well for centuries violently subjugating all the neighbors. And government aggression is extremely lucrative for the rulers, even in modern America. The detailed cost/benefit analysis of violent exploitation is far from convincing as an automatic NAP endorsement.

Of course, peaceful cooperation and production is the best method overall for human societal prosperity. But individual humans tend toward a very limited time & geographic perspective — their own life spans and perhaps that of their immediate descendants. Violence often works in the localized short term, in improving one’s standard of living at others’ expense.

In the long run –we’re all dead. Long and Short time perspectives prompt different conclusions among humans. Violence, war, conquest, and exploitation are commonplace in all human history.

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“H. Neanderthalensis – lived contemporaneously with H. Sapiens – and the two may even have interbred.”

I know they interbred. I have seen 2 examples of it. The stoop, the eyebrow ridges, the low forehead. Everything denoting the recessive genes of the Neanderthal.

Many anthropologists (heh.. apologists) say that the genes between both species were incompatible.

Rubbish. I’ve seen the evidence.

Anyhoo.. The only time it’s your duty to bare your teeth and rage is at someone who believes they have the authority to order you around.

One of your best articles, Eric.