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    S&s v111

    Here we go gentlemen!

    http://www.sscycle.com/product/V111-...ne-p21080.html

    Somebody stop me!

    I can get it for just over 5k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dom View Post
    Here we go gentlemen!

    http://www.sscycle.com/product/V111-...ne-p21080.html

    Somebody stop me!

    I can get it for just over 5k.
    From the reviews it looks like S&S got this one just right - the perfect touring engine (for a Harley that is ). Easy installation due to lower overall height, smooth, vibe free, gut wrenching torque, fantastic acceleration, did I say smooth, fantastic acceleration, did I mention the gut wrenching torque, perfect touring engine, did I mention easy inst ......... - DO I NEED TO GO ON??????????

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    Why would you want anyone to stop you? From my experience, S&S gets it right when it comes to their "crate" engines. They run strong right out of the box.

    If you plan on keeping your current bike it is probably worth it to upgrade.

    Also - you won't be able to wipe the smile off your face...they're that much fun to ride.

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    OMG, and I just put an S&S carb on my EFI ultra. I could have put this in.... On another note, everyone I know who upgraded their engines to S&S have had problems with the transmission. Seems the rest of the bike can't handle the additional power.

    Can anybody besides me remember when a Trumpet 650 was a big bike??

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlieCLU View Post
    .... On another note, everyone I know who upgraded their engines to S&S have had problems with the transmission. Seems the rest of the bike can't handle the additional power.

    I put an S&S Evo-style 124" SSW+ in my stock 1997 Dyna Wide Glide back in 2007. Have not had any problem with the transmission. The stock starter wasn't up to the task and it tore up the ring gear on the clutch basket - so the starter & the clutch were replaced - but as long as you don't ride it like a mad man and bang through the gears (Yes - you will be tempted with all that new power) you should be OK.

    (I better not have any problems with my transmission now! )

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    Ordered it last night. It will be here in four business days. Going to order a new front motor mount now. As far and the tranny I put a baker in last year, but didn't upgrade the basket. I think I'll try and make it thru some of the season with the stock basket and starterr. This is gonna be fun! I'm wondering what I should do about exhaust. I have open pipes with little torque cone things right at the top to help prevent reverberation. Wonder if that is enough.

    Piney, what pipes do you have?

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    OMG, and I just put an S&S carb on my EFI ultra. I could have put this in.... On another note, everyone I know who upgraded their engines to S&S have had problems with the transmission. Seems the rest of the bike can't handle the additional power.
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    Can anybody besides me remember when a Trumpet 650 was a big bike??

    Yes, and only too clearly. I remember kindergarten but don't ask me where I parked my bike. Bike? I've got a bike??

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    Quote Originally Posted by dom View Post
    Ordered it last night. It will be here in four business days. Going to order a new front motor mount now. As far and the tranny I put a baker in last year, but didn't upgrade the basket. I think I'll try and make it thru some of the season with the stock basket and starterr. This is gonna be fun! I'm wondering what I should do about exhaust. I have open pipes with little torque cone things right at the top to help prevent reverberation. Wonder if that is enough.

    Piney, what pipes do you have?

    I'm currently running a Vance & Hines 2-into-1 Pro Pipe HS, with the stock baffle. Not sure it works any better than the Vance & Hines Straight Shots with stock baffles that I had on it previously, but I've had no problem with either pipes. I only went with the 2-into-1 because I had heard and read about how you get a little bit more low-end grunt with them. Recently had the bike on a dyno and it had a nice smooth curve, so I guess it works as advertised.

    When I had the engine put in, the tech who did the work said that S&S engines do not benefit from torque cones (I had them in the Straight Shots on my stock 80" evo and he removed them when he put the S&S in) - he said it had something to do with the design of the heads. I've found that S&S was pretty good about replying to any questions I had about the engine, so you might want to check with them regarding pipe recommendations, etc.

    Also, the 124 is a pretty high compression engine (with electronic compression releases)...not sure about the 111 - you may be able to get by without a new starter. S&S told me they use Harley Davidson high performance starters (1.4 kw, p/n: 31335-03A) on all of their test engines. I'm currently using an All Balls starter - I'm not thrilled with it, but it works and I can't afford the HD one right now ($421.39 + s&h).


    Link to Dyno Chart: http://www.flickr.com/photos/7564185...in/photostream
    Chart shows numbers for SC Race Baffle and stock baffle. I had the race baffle in, but have removed it and re-installed the stock baffle.
    Last edited by Piney; 03-09-2012 at 11:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlieCLU View Post
    OMG, and I just put an S&S carb on my EFI ultra. I could have put this in.... On another note, everyone I know who upgraded their engines to S&S have had problems with the transmission. Seems the rest of the bike can't handle the additional power.

    Can anybody besides me remember when a Trumpet 650 was a big bike??
    Tiger 110 in my case plus a few other 500s, BSA A7, Vincent HRD TT Comet, Matchless, and a Norton CS1.

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    S&S's take on torque cones for the V111:

    "They will not hurt the engine and the torque cones will make tuning easier than if you were to run “open” pipes but they are not as good as having an exhaust system with some sort of baffle."

    Maybe I should look into some sort of baffle. We'll see.

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    S&S's take on torque cones for the V111:

    "They will not hurt the engine and the torque cones will make tuning easier than if you were to run “open” pipes but they are not as good as having an exhaust system with some sort of baffle."

    Maybe I should look into some sort of baffle. We'll see.

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    So...saw in another post that you rode 500 miles this weekend, Dom.
    What's the verdict on the S&S engine?
    Which exhaust system are you running?
    Details! We want details!

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    Pulls like a tractor!

    Love it!

    V111

    V111





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    Quote Originally Posted by dom View Post
    Pulls like a tractor!

    Love it!
    Now that looks handsome, Dom!

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    Thanks Ken!

    I'm pretty happy with it.

    Still have some odds and ends to tinker with.

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