It is no accident that police have become more brutal – in appearance as well as action – since they became law enforcement.
The term itself is a brutal syllogism. The law exists and must be enforced because it is the law. I am just doing my job, only following (lawful) orders. People were hanged for using such reasoning to justify the enforcement of vicious, evil laws and went to the gallows baffled as to why.
Victor’s justice, they called it. And perhaps they were right, if a bit prematurely.
Today’s defendants – well, one hopes that they will be that, one day – are just as guilty in kind if not degree.
They enforce the laws. All of them. They do not question the rightness of any of them. The law is the law.
It ought to raise hairs on the back of any thinking person’s neck.
Law enforcement countenances anything, provided the law says so. It is what has made it possible for law enforcers to seize people’s property without charge or due process of any sort – because the law (civil asset forfeiture) gives them the power to do it. Some do it perfunctorily – the banality of evil Hannah Arendt wrote about. Others do it zealously – this includes the rabid little man who is the chief law enforcement officer of the state, Attorney General Jeff Sessions.
It is what enables “good Americans” (the same as “good Germans”) to stand in the middle of the road, halting every car at gunpoint (implied, even if not actually drawn; see what happens if you do not stop) and demanding “papers” be presented.
Without feeling ashamed of themselves.
Because the law says it is “reasonable” to do this. (If so, then it is not-rape to briefly penetrate an unwilling victim – which action by the way law enforcers also perform under color of the law but call it “looking for contraband” rather than rape.)
These same law enforcers will just as nihilistically enforce worse laws not yet passed but ominously threatened, such as laws forbidding the possession of “assault” weapons – or weapons, period.
Such laws in fact are already in force in several states (e.g., Connecticut, Maryland and New Jersey) and have in fact already been enforced. People have been caged as if they were violent criminals not for any violent or criminal action on their part but only because they had the misfortune to fall into the hands of violent criminals who happen to operate under the color of the law.
This includes innocent victims who abided by the concealed weapons laws applicable in their home state, who were driving through another state with different laws and were pulled over for some other non-crime such as “speeding” or “not buckling up for saaaaaaafety” by violent criminals acting under color of law, and foolishly told the violent criminals they were confronted with that they were carrying a legal (in their state) firearm in the trunk . . . and very quickly found themselves first in cuffs and then in jail.
Does anyone doubt these same law enforcers will hesitate when it comes to enforcing laws even more despicable?
How about house-by-house confiscation? Do you doubt it? If yes, you should perhaps reconsider. They will, after all, simply be enforcing the law and just doing their job. The same moral indifference which enables them to do the things to people they currently do to people will make it just as easy – as indifferent – to do more to them.
So long as it is the law.
How about the enforcement of the loathsome “shared responsibility” payment – i.e., the federal tax penalty imposed on people for failing to abide by terms of Obamacare, who did not send the insurance mafia thousands of dollars for “coverage” they may not desire or need or be able to afford?
It is, after all, the law.
At the moment, the enforcement of this particular law is held in abeyance because the federal law enforcers lack the power to enforce it; they can only send threatening letters – and add interest charges to the principal “owed,” which remains exactly that, as far as the federal law enforcers are concerned.
They are biding their time.
The day will probably come when they acquire the power to enforce that law. They will seize money held in bank accounts, or garnish wages – or place lies on property; possibly even seizing it to pay he “debt” supposedly “owed” but which is nothing more than theft and extortion called by other things to powder over their moral loathsomeness.
Why would they not do so?
They already do exactly the same things to people who have not submitted to other forms of extortion under color of the law. The obvious example being the annual extortion “homeowners” supposedly “owe” on homes long ago paid-for, or so they thought. In fact, they are never paid-for and so never owned, on account of forever “owing” whatever monies those passing laws decree – to be collected by force by law enforcers, if the duress of the threat of force is insufficient inducement.
So, the first thing that needs to change – if there is to be change in the right direction – is the terminology.
Law enforcement as a concept must be disposed of in the same manner one disposes of other toxic things. The idea that one can “reform” such a concept is tantamount to rattlesnake training or trying to mow grass with scissors.
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The government is destroying the US with wars, debt, and tyranny, but what do we need government for anyway?
If a private association like the MPAA can regulate movies, why can’t the private market regulate other things?
When the TSA fingers your asshole and pulls your cock, is the real purpose to protect you or to make you feel like a degraded slave?
When people smoke now, people just call the police on them, but people in the past either took some personal responsibility and ignored smokers, moved away from smokers, or asked smokers to go somewhere else. The problem with a police state is everyone now is either or a slave or a criminal. Who pays the taxes to pay for tyranny?
If smoking is dangerous, can’t nonprofits raise funds to pay for educational campaigns that warn of the dangers of smoking instead of outlawing smoking?
Can’t people use the BBB to verify if a business is good or not instead of forcing companies to pay fees to get a government business license?
Can’t private charities funded by volunteer donations provide homeless shelters and soup kitchens instead of being at forced at the point of a gun by the government to pay taxes that fund welfare?
Can’t people use guns to protect themselves instead of relying on the Gestapo?
Can’t neighbourhoods hire private security firms to protect their homes?
Can’t the free market provide toll roads?
Can’t the free market provide private airports?
Can’t the free market provide private schools?
Can’t the free market provide private mediation services instead of being forced to use courts?
Can’t volunteer fire departments provide fire protection services?
Can’t the free market provide disaster relief instead of FEMA?
Can’t the free market run delivery services instead of the USPS?
Can’t the free market run railroads instead of Amtrak?
Think.
http://www.badharvest.net/forum/viewforum.php?id=2
This issue of “law enforcement” is something I always find myself in debates with friends.
Law enforcement is an activity; it is not a person, or group of people. The police are those people at the local level who do law enforcement.
I always contend that law enforcement is giving you a speeding ticket when you drive 26 MPH in a 25 MPH zone. The police will (sometimes) let you off with a warning. Law enforcement does not allow for the discretion of warnings.
Does violent retaliation necessarily violate the NAP ?
Does it violate libertarian principles to plot to kill and then actually kill the children of a police officer who killed your children two years ago ? How about the the assassination, five years later, of the politician who ordered, but did physically participate in, a fatal attack on your family?
Or, how about the assassination of a ((( multi-billionaire international financier ))) who who has not, in a direct or personal sense, attacked you, but who uses the debt-enslavement banking system to fund mass murders, violent revolutions, and opposing sides of armed conflicts worldwide?
Not saying this is possible or advisable, of course. I’m Just a “tired” curmudgeon posing an ethical question for theoretical purposes only..
Eric, if this particular question has already been discussed on your site, refer me your archives.
The only way that violent retaliation fits with my idea of the nap would be in the case of killing someone who has killed someone under your protection, such as a family member.
The other scenarios you suggest don’t fit with my idea of the nap. Killing the children of the cop who killed your child is aggression. Killing the cop himself might be something you could fit into your idea of the nap, if you see it that way.
Revenge killing was once a valid defense against a murder charge, as recently as the early 20th century. My idea of the nap is that violence in defense of myself or my family OR in retaliation for violence against the same is not aggression.
Killing some international billionaire I don’t know would seem to me to be killing him for being an asshole, which would be an initiation of force.
Hi Homeless,
This one’s easy.
Stalin had a young daughter at the height of the Terror; did she deserve to be murdered for the crimes of her father? The answer is obviously, no. The sins of the father are not those of the son. Or the daughter.
Interestingly, the Nazis had a policy called sippenhaft – under which the family members of those judged guilty were also judged guilty.
It’s vile on the face of it. Collective punishment is not the answer; indeed, it is precisely what we are opposed to.
Now, as regards your second question… it seems to me a person who orders a murderous attack upon anyone is guilty of the murders which result, whether he actually committed the act or not. Stalin, for example. Victims of Stalin – anyone in the Soviet Union, in my opinion – had every right to attempt to kill the bastard. This principle is one which the current U.S. legal system espouses; viz, the conviction of Charles Manson for murders performed on his behalf by his followers.
The bankers you describe constitute a tougher question. Debt is to a great extent voluntary. Being an asshole who exploits people is being an asshole… but does it justify murder? I don’t think so. Essentially, what we are talking about in this case is fraud, which can be handled in other ways.
THIS IS JUST A THOUGHT:
Find out where one rogue officer lives. case his home. Wait until early one morning and catch him as he comes out of his house-bring a gang. Once you have successfully beaten him into unconsciousness, go into his home-tie up his family. Break everything in sight. Pour sugar in all the gas tanks of their vehicles. Get all the info you can off their cell phones and computers. move on to the next officer until you have visited them all. Then case the chief of police. Keep doing this and they might start to back off being such assholes. When these bastards have to “grow eyes in the backs of their heads”, they might decide to “behave themselves’. When they have to explain to their families WHY they were targeted and have to state the reasons (self-reflection) the message just might get across.
The above is just a thought. I hope it will never come to that, but . . . with the amount of unjustified murders and the destruction that SWAT teams cause and cops get away with . . . it is a possibility.
There have been individual cases where rogue cops have been “black bagged”, tied to a tree and warned to start behaving themselves. Of course, these cases are never publicized.
Shunning can be an effective way to “correct” the behavior of rogue cops. Publish the name, address, phone number and email address along with a photo of the rogue cop and send it to the local businesses where the rogue lives. Yes, the rogue’s family will suffer as well, but I say “so what”? When he has to explain to his family that his behavior was the cause of their shunning, the message may “hit home”. When the rogue cop and his family have to shop in the next town because local merchants will no longer do business with them, the message might get across.
Look up “the battle of Athens, Tennessee”. This is one instance of the townspeople “taking back” their town.
Obtain and read “Unintended Consequences” by John Ross. In it, are history lessons, law lessons, and ways to take back our country . . .
O/T, kind of, but anyway. I just came across mention of a lady who once posted here from time to time, screen name Mama Liberty. She just died recently and, I don’t know if anybody remembers her. I do.
https://secure.thementalmilitia.com/forums/index.php?topic=36504.msg458628#msg458628
Hi Ed,
Thanks for letting us know. I remember her and am saddened at her death.
Jeremy
Yeah, she was a friend of mine for years. She had some of my Time’s Up flags; even a big one hanging behind her couch. Great lady. I miss her already.
Thanks Ed for that info. I very well remember and respected Mama Liberty. She was quite a lady!
What a breath of fresh air to see people waking up.
Are we on board that “the police” need to be abolished?
What kind of “free” society has a standing army of goons in blue,
ready to follow orders, lording over them?
No we need to get back to the people policing them selves. They called it the militia and we had it for 400 years on this continent, that is until this Satanic government began to dismantle all of our rights and protections, bit by bit.
Beautiful piece Eric!
Cross posted on the Missouri Free Press:
missourifreepress.com/2018/07/23/what-it-means-to-be-a-law-enforcer/
Definitely, all tax-funded police need to be abolished. All government corruption and evil begin with mandatory taxation.
Indeed, Rick…
I could abide a peacekeeping service* paid for out of voluntary taxes – which I realize is oxymoronic but for purposes of discussion… something along the lines of the motor fuels tax, which is basically a voluntary user fee which no one is compelled to pay and which is paid as you go and anonymously…
* peacekeeping strictly limited to the apprehension/sequestering of those who harm others. That is to say, moral crimes – theft, physical assault and so on. Nothing beyond that.
Reading all the comments about the TSA, I’m actually shocked anyone puts up with flying anymore. As far as I’m concerned, until there is no more TSA/airport “security” molestation, humans have lost the technological know-how to fly machines. It’s a lost science of an earlier era, not an option for me.
Hi Kent,
I used to wonder also but no longer do. People are – in the main – willing to put up with literally anything and do not grok the importance of standing up for a principle, which is why things get worse and worse and worse. If the TSA can grope your wife’ crotch, why shouldn’t they be able to finger her, too? I mean, a vagina is an ideal place for a “terrorist” to hide something…
I don’t know how to post an image, but this is one is good:
http://www.bitterrootbugle.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/TSA-jump-through-hoops-300×213.jpg
A few years ago Mike, my best friend passed away.
Upon helping to clean out his house we came across doggie dishes… About seventy of them, mostly plastic and a few stainless ones.
Mike didn’t own a dog but, well, you see he had a fight with TSA years earlier.
To get some revenge he decided to steal their doggie dishes every time he flew.
Never got caught.
So much for security!
There were a few other tricks he played on them which, revealed they were not members of the Werner Von Braun institute.
If Americans who are fed up with this crap would follow Mike’s example and innovate, the whole system would become unworkable in very short order.
Why does the TSA have doggie dishes and how would or why would one want to steal them?
Perhaps the greatest enemy of liberty and any semblance of freedom is lack of comprehension.
Explaining “doggie” dish function gives meaning to why we as a society are where we are.
Since I have not flown I over ten years, I have no idea whether these are still in use but… At the gates where the TSA treats people like cattle the doggie dishes serve as containers holding keys, change, watches etc. while the livestock (you) are being inspected.
Doggies dishes are just one subtle reminder of your K-9 status in air terminals.
Stealing them for my friend was a way of aggravating the appointed idiots while showing how inept they really are, Ha!
For at least the past two centuries “citizens” have bore the brunt of every war mankind have endured.
Armies get credit for winning and the general populations are not only sent the bill, they have by far, the most casualties.
If and until the general population(s) wake up to the fact that they far outnumber the rulers and their minions it will not get better.
Most of the “go-along-to-get-along” crowd is to blame for the circumstances we suffer in America.
The populous is so absorbed in their I-phones and bullshit media they simply cannot do anything else. Do they deserve any better than what they are getting?
Not one dictatorship (oligarchy) in the last two centuries could have survived for more than a couple years IF the populous really didn’t allow their misdeeds.
However, armed revolt in most cases is bloody-messy, destructive, counter productive, noisy and expensive; Whereas millions of small incursions could not only cause the powerful serious problems, it could force course changes and abandonment of many if not, most draconian edicts.
A copious amount of imagination and a number of willing accomplices could wreak havoc on the “system”.
What would happen if a group of drivers decided to “slow” drive any given thoroughfare on random days during rush hour? What if they did it to airport access roads? Flight delays anyone?
What is the risk? A ticket? What if everyone who received a ticket fought it? Think the courts are jammed now?
The whole country could be brought to a screaming, grinding halt in a few days with nary a shot fired.
For those at the top it is all about power and money. And as long as the dissatisfied only cry and whine what do they care.
Get into their pockets and from there kick their nuts around. It’ll change the way they walk (and talk).
It wasn’t about the doggies dishes and if we don’t start (proverbially) stealing more of them, we will soon find ourselves eating from them.
The above was Not anonymous; it was actually Doug-the-bug but got cut off before it was properly posted.
“looking for contraband” – we call it the Fecal Finger.
Eric,
Does the IRS send you a “bill” for all the years of obamacare: 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, or was there no “bill” for the earlier years. I skipped 2014, but then acquired obamacare for the following years, but never received a tax “bill”, that I can remember? Are you now going to pay all of it so the “bill” does not have anymore penalties and taxes added to the “bill”?
Hi CHarlie,
I was “covered” under my now ex-wife’s policy until 2017. Then I became “uninsured.” Since I have no health issues, I decided not to get “coverage” – which for a self-employed person (my ex-wife had a corporate job) is obnoxiously expensive, on the order of $400/month. Given that I haven’t spent a cent on quackery or poultices in years – despite being “covered” under my ex-wife’s policy – I decided not to be “covered” now, especially since there’s no way I can afford the unaffordable Affordable Care Act’s mandated “coverage.”
I got the first federal thug letter just a month or so after filing “my” 2017 taxes. I have received an additional thug letter since then.
No, I am not going to pay. Ever. They can come get me if it comes to that. I am not tough, just tired. I’m not hurting anyone; not imposing any costs on anyone. If anything, I’m doing the opposite by being responsible for myself.
But that is just exactly what they cannot abide. The want to make me dependent on them – by rendering me broke – via taxes.
Feed them fish heads.
Eric,
I was wondering if you were going to say something about getting the second letter that I knew you were going to get. The third one is on the way.
IMHO the real problem with “law enforcement” is that we have allowed it to become monopolized and surrendered our civic duty (and our rights) to tell other people they shouldn’t act like shits in society. When I was a kid older people never hesitated to tell me or even my mother something in public that they did not approve of. When I lived in Germany in the 90s older people were the same and would not hesitate to tell you off if you crossed the street on a red light, as you were “ein schlechtes Beispiel für Kinder” (a bad example for kids). No more. Societies have been transformed by fear of violence and part of it is our own fault for expecting the government to be the answer to all our problems. It’s not. Want protection? Buy a gun. Buy it now, and learn how to use it. At least in USA (and in Switzerland where I live) we still can.
Hi Jimmie,
Very sounds points, well-made. Hat tip!
It’s a species of cowardice; people unwilling to handle anything themselves and – instead – running to the government like pansies to get it to handle whatever the problem is (if it even is a problem) for them.
This mechanism also lets them evade responsibility for cretinous conduct performed on their behalf. One of my gods, HL Mencken, put it this way:
An election is nothing less than a kind of advance auction of stolen goods.
People who understand that stealing is wrong – or are too afraid to steal things themselves – don’t hesitate to vote for others to steal on their behalf…
Such a shame that most laws exist in the first place and are designed more to raise revenue for the state and/or deny us our personal freedoms. Equally shameful is that individuals employed in “law enforcement” aren’t doing something more productive with their lives. On the other hand, maybe what they are doing is all that they are capable of doing in the first place.
I used to be a police officer… Well, a semi-rural sheriff’s deputy charged with patrol duties.
Many of us would have rather quit than enforce some of the laws on the books. We used our discretion quite liberally (“hey, it’s not a good idea to keep that in your car… A trooper would tear you up! We won’t, but just watch that”).
So, each department is different. Very few NAP observers. Some minarchists. Baltimore and Cleveland PDs on the other hand…
Hi Tommy,
Thanks for your input, first of all. Many of us here – certainly myself – are very much in favor of peace keeping. But that is a very different thing than law enforcing. No sane or decent person objects to dealing appropriately with thieves, rapists, murderers and so on – people who actually hurt others – who create actual victims. But that is no longer what law enforcement primarily does, unfortunately.
They enforce laws – the majority of which involve nothing more than an affront to some statute; that involve no actual harm done to any actual person. On the face of it, such laws are unjust – tyrannical. They amount to controlling people – and fleecing people who decline to be controlled.
My stomach turns whenever I see a “checkpoint,” manned by the local sheriffs’ office and state troopers. The local sheriffs’ deputies are still somewhat less Hut! Hut! Hut! than the state police, but they are all becoming the same thing Radly Balko (sp?) discusses in his excellent book about “warrior cops.”
I agree. The “Warrior Mindset” (which is what many if my own trainers called it) is infecting the local sheriff’s too.
Some good news is we had an active intellectual resistance to that where I worked; wereframed it “Gaurdian Mindset” …which I think there is a book on that as well.
I worked a checkpoint before. It was just as stomach churning as you imagined. Troopers there. Fortunately, I was able to drop almost all the charges in court (the best way I knew to nullify the damage I did).
I hope it turns around. There are a lot of good guys in policing, or peacekeeping. That’s dying. They’re leaving.
Thanks Eric.
It sounds like you were one of the decent ones, Tommy. I sometimes forget that people like you are out there. It’s also damn hard to differentiate you from a typical order follower (whilst in “official capacity” mode). Although I despise the public institution of law enforcement (insofar as it aggresses against peaceful individuals and violates the NAP), it’s kind of reassuring to know that not EVERY cop is my enemy. Cheers, dude.
Thanks for the kind words, GT. I’m afraid my breed is dying out, by force. Body cams complicate things (how can I let those drugs slide like I used to when the camera shows them?). The whole field has been ruined really. I’m out, back to my old line of work. So are many of the good ones I know (you really have little choice). The good ones that are still in are having their hands tied (and so have to be “order followers”).
Protect your rights! But kindly 🙂 I still love many of my bros.
Society should switch to a private decentralized security model — hire private security firms to do everyday security tasks, if you don’t like them then don’t pay for a membership. And have local civilian merc groups everywhere too — there HAS to be checks & balances when it comes to power/security. But what every country does now is give absolute power to a tiny group of people — a recipe for disaster.
Hi World,
The only law ought to be: Don’t be first to use force. No aggressive violence.
If attacked, you have the right to defend yourself. If harmed, you have a right to seek redress and he who harmed you owes you restitution. But no one has the right to use force against any person who has not caused him harm. Not for any reason. This means no taxes except those which are voluntary – and which may be avoided without fear of persecution of any kind. It means inviolable property rights. What you own is yours, beholden to none and subject to no other person’s control to the extent that you cause others no harm.
It means total ownership of your physical person, free from any external control to the extent that what you do with your body imposes no harm upon others.
Regarding the first video, all I could think about was my wife and daughter.
They went door to door and confiscated guns after Katrina too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKkUG1F2JiI
Scary days. Thanks for all you do Eric.
Eric wrote, “How about house-by-house confiscation? Do you doubt it? If yes, you should perhaps reconsider. ”
Indeed, have you heard of the Boston Marathon bombing? An entire region was ordered to “shelter in place”. A new term for “house arrest”. Militarist goons went house-to-house searching and, in some cases, confiscating legally owned weapons.
It can’t happen here? Buddy, it already has.
https://21stcenturywire.com/2013/04/24/boston-martial-law-they-were-confiscating-guns-from-residents/
Hi Mark,
Yup – exactly. And that is another example of what “the people” have accepted – and which proves they will accept far worse.
Not only did they accept it…they CHEERED the f–ing cops and applauded them after the last terrorist was discovered — by an unarmed CITIZEN, not a cop — hiding in a boat.
THAT really made me sick. “Cradle of liberty,” my ass.
USA, USA, USA, USA was the chant on the street from the brain dead after it was over.
I believe it was at a Bruins hockey game…sickening.
The Saturday after 9-11, I tired to rebook a canceled flight from my office. I never go to the office on weekends and was surprised to find that the code I memorized didn’t work on the front door of my office building.
A Kwan came up behind me, entered his code, opened the door and then slammed it in my face, not allowing me entrance.
I asked him if I looked like a terrorist. (Hell I look like the all-American boy.) He replied that “he couldn’t take a chance what with everything that was going on.”
I later entered my code and it worked. I went to my office and unsuccessfully tried to rebook my flight. While exiting the building, I came across the kowardly Kwan. I called the gutless wonder what he was and told him that if you’re terrorized and change the way you behave, the terrorists win.
Whoops! I forgot that the system no longer automatically includes my name with my posts. So here it is.
I live in Cambridge, MA and work in Quincy. I ignored the “shelter in place” order, and went about my day as usual. When I returned home, some snarky “Clover” who lives in my building admonished, “what are you doing? We were told to shelter in place!” I told him that I chose not to participate. He was speechless.
Hi Myles,
Yup. I got the same reaction last time I had to endure the TSA. I refused to go through the machine; everyone else went in and they all looked at me with expressions that indicated they thought I wad being some kind of stick in the mud…
HG Wells was right.
God damn them all.
Since the TSA took over airport security, I have avoided flying as much as possible. My wife has relatives overseas, so, on rare occasion when I’m more-or-less forced to fly, I “opt out”. I’m definitely in the minority, and the TSA goons generally treat me like shit. We’re definitely living in an open-air prison at this point.
I usually opt out of the body scan too. One time, the TSA decided to make an example of me, and held up the entire line for twenty minutes as they made a show of inconveniencing me – and “I” ended up being the one responsible for slowing down the whole line for twenty minutes. Boy were people in line pissed and cussing at me, but the TSA goons got a free pass.
Hi OP,
Disgusting. These are the same USAmerikans who are the reincarnation of Lenin’s useful idiots and Hitler’s good Germans.
The longer I live, the harder it is to tamp down the cynical view that – in the main – people are cattle.
It’s harder to tamp down that view because you are right. Humans are cattle. They seem to not want it any other way. I can’t wrap my head around people who want kids, because this whole mess just seems like a giant slave breeding program … a bio-matrix.
Hi GT,
With deep reluctance, I incline toward agreement. But the problem is . . . not all are cattle. And why should they be treated as such?
Which brings me around to the subject of kids. I hope I have the opportunity to have one – in the hope that I’ll be able to raise up another human being who groks that owning other human beings isn’t cool and to so advocate causes one to forfeit their own right to not be owned.
The problem now is finding an agreeable woman of good genetic stock. So far, it’s been a no-go.
Agreed. Those who don’t treat others like cattle should not be treated as cattle. The traditional golden rule certainly applies in that case.
I last flew in 2016 but I’m sure things are still the same. Had the same thing happen to me the last time I opted out, Eric. Then I chatted up the goon while he violated me, so as to keep up “friendly” appearances. God damn if I didn’t want to grab his arm and twist it behind his head. Shame we can’t have a normal reaction to their disgusting actions. Alas, I would end up arrested and on their “naughty” list. At least the experience was quickly forgotten, as my connecting flight in Mexico City linked me up with about half of the plane filled with speakers and other guests who, like myself, were on their way to the Anarchapulco conference in Acapulco. So many free spirited anarcho-capitalists/libertarians! That was probably the most memorable and pleasant flight I’ve ever had!
Hi GT,
I came very close to losing control of myself on the return leg of that same trip. I had to fly out to AZ to deal with my dad’s death. Returning, I brought with me some bottles of whiskey – closed – that had belonged to him. I know, you’re not “allowed” to fly with such things anymore but I was stressed and forgot “the rules.” So I had them with me in my carry-on bag and the government goon seized them. I began to hallucinate ripping out his larynx. I realized I must avoid such situations in the future.
I am by no means a tough guy. But I am a very tired guy.
I would have drunk them all before getting on the plane. It’s ridiculous what you have to go through these days. I sometimes have to travel, but when I do, I always opt out.
Dude, you were at that same conference in 2016?! Or am I misreading your statement? In any case, what a shitty situation to be stuck in with the TSA goonsquad. And sorry about your pops. It sounds like they relish the opportunity to add insult to injury. Great people (sarcasm). Wouldn’t expect any less from our loyal “servants”. As for the potential danger to the agent’s larynx, well, they practically BEG to have such impromptu surgeries performed in the field. I’d say the greatest danger they face on the job, is a fed up individual who is just tired of being mired down in the open-air prison of the good ol’ US of A. I’m getting pretty tired of it all myself. On a related note: I’m damn near mentally and spiritually prepared to take a stand against the local slave drivers, by refusing to pay the extortion fee on my rightfully purchased land. Sadly, I know how it will end, and I am not yet physically prepared. *sigh* Why can’t these assholes just mind their own business? After all, it’s the easiest thing in the world to do. You literally have to do NOTHING, and voilà, you are minding your own business.
Way to go Myles–It’s so worth it just to see the look on the clover’s face when you use that line on them, never occurs to ’em to give free thought a shot and take control of their life.
LOL, Myles, that was pure gold. I wish I could have seen the look on that idiot’s face.
Not only that, look at the video of people being forced out of their houses at gunpoint, being forced to walk with their hands up in the air.
Woe the irony when a woman beats a man who patted her ass and is celebrated by feminists https://nypost.com/2018/07/19/waitress-body-slams-creep-who-grabbed-her-butt-in-restaurant/
but a woman being given a roadside cavity search s considered normal. It’s okay when the police do it.
The problem with our glorious “law enforcers” is that different laws apply to different groups of people. Some laws do not apply to extra-special groups. It’s kosher. While imaginary laws apply to other groups, laws that are invented on the spot or reinterpreted on the fly. If all were equal before the law, it would at least be an equal assault upon all citizens instead of the most dangerous form of arbitrary and capricious “enforcement” where one, especially not in a kosher group, has no idea what is arrayed against him in the course of daily life. The worst “crimes” simply are not crimes for certain people – NYC police freely admit their inability to bring to bear the law against extra-special people.
I witness it every single day where I live next to kosher squatters who committed over $1 Million in mortgage fraud, yet live for free with a city supplied maid and sell drugs openly, but I get tickets for putting out my garbage “too early.”
Such wonder in all failing Republics. The clarion call of rage grows across the land and the sickly sweet smell of blood becomes the intoxicant the indignant righteous crave.
I despise law enforcers, because the “law” is evil. Just yesterday I ran across a FB post by a member of the Blue Line Gang who was making fun of those who comment on posts where his molesters brag about stealing Cannabis and kidnapping the owners. His argument was that his “officers” didn’t make the “laws” they were defending. He listed all the ones responsible for the “laws” and said that’s who to blame. As if “laws” could hurt anyone if there weren’t losers willing to demean themselves by enforcing them. Without the Blue Line Gang “laws” would be as meaningful as politician farts.
https://www.easternnewmexiconews.com/story/2018/07/18/voices/no-virtue-in-upholding-bad-laws/158456.html
The logistics of house to house gun confiscation aren’t impossible, they just are not yet currently politically feasible. Just as TSA checkpoints and warrantless drunk driving checkpoints used to be not doable.
If it starts, it will be in places like LA or NYC, where there is broad support for that among the political majority, in the neighborhoods where people won’t shoot back.
Our glorious future begun in NY, where the profiteer of a pedophile casts nets for all “criminals” but himself and his “partners”:
Inside Cuomo’s plan to have your face scanned at NYC toll plazas
By Danielle Furfaro, Jennifer Bain and Ruth BrownJuly 20, 2018 | 9:58pm | Updated
Big Governor is watching you.
Facial-recognition cameras at bridge and tunnel toll plazas across the city are already scanning drivers’ visages and feeding them into databases to catch suspected criminals, Gov. Andrew Cuomo revealed Friday.
“When it reads that license plate, it reads it for scofflaws . . . [but] the toll is almost the least significant contribution that this electronic equipment can actually perform,” Cuomo said at a press conference outside the Queens Midtown Tunnel.
“We are now moving to facial-recognition technology, which takes it to a whole new level, where it can see the face of the person in the car and run that technology against databases.
“Because many times a person will turn their head when they see a security camera, so they are now experimenting with technology that just identifies a person by their ear, believe it or not,” he continued.
The tech is being tested at the RFK/Triborough Bridge and was switched on at Queens Midtown Tunnel and Brooklyn-Battery Tunnel Friday, according to the Governor’s Office.
It will also eventually come to at least two of the Metropolitan Transportation Authority’s six other spans — the Throgs Neck and Whitestone bridges — and down the road will be added at all area airports, Cuomo’s office confirmed.
A request for proposals from contractors previously published by the online news outlet Vocativ says the tech is slated for all seven of the city’s toll bridges in addition to the two tunnels.
Modal TriggerA toll plaza on the Whitestone Bridge.
A toll plaza on the Whitestone BridgeChristopher Sadowski
Citing security-related issues, the Governor’s Office refused to say when the forthcoming cameras will be activated, what databases they are comparing the photos against and who will have access to the data.
But Cuomo said on Friday that license plates scanned at the toll plazas, at least, are already being checked “for warrants, suspected felons, parole violators, terrorist suspects” — and that the intel is passed within five seconds on to cop cars stationed at the crossings.
“It’s a phenomenal security device,” he said.
Not everyone agrees.
The New York Civil Liberties Union slammed the surveillance operation after the governor’s press conference, saying the tech is unreliable and could wind up targeting innocent people.
“Facial-recognition software is notoriously inaccurate when it comes to identifying people of color, women and children, leading to the possibility of people being mistakenly arrested or erroneously monitored,” NYCLU Executive Director Donna Lieberman said in a statement.
“Government should not be casting a dragnet to track everyone going about their day through the state’s bridges and tunnels, especially not when that data could be shared with other law-enforcement agencies, including immigration authorities.”
The state Department of Motor Vehicles already uses facial-recognition software to catch people committing identity theft and fraud and has some 16 million photos in its databases, according to an August 2017 release from the Governor’s Office.
The health insurance scam is really interesting because it is so easy to no use the “service.” We all hear the old saw about how tax avoision is somehow theft because “everyone uses the roads.” I haven’t been to a medical doctor in about two years. I don’t use the system, in fact I actively avoid it. Other than my eyes and teeth I don’t know that I have any need to go to a doctor, especially since I’m getting to the target age of big pharma and the last thing I want is to end up on a bunch of pills.
I’m not against having catastrophic insurance, although having the money that my employer and I pay into the policy going instead into a savings account would be much more sound budgeting. As it is that $2K or so per month ends up going to, well, who knows where it ends up. Probably in someone’s new Citation X.
I don’t worry too much about “house to house” gun confiscation because the logistics are impossible. Less so in my area but in your neighborhood, I don’t see it happening. That is where they start running short on confiscators. A relevant quote – one of my favorites from his book:
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation”
Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn
The Gulag Archipelago, 1918-1956: An Experiment in Literary Investigation (Volume One) page 13, footnote 5.
We won’t need the hammers or axes….
They say that people get the government they deserve, but in my view that further invalidates all the collectivist reasoning you hear. That is why should I have to suffer because someone else is stupid or lazy?
DUh-mocracy : A polite term for “mob-rule”
How we WILL burn in the camps… unless…
https://blog.kentforliberty.com/2013/01/and-how-well-burn-in-camps.html
The simple answer to that is look at how the military trains and operates in Iraq and Afghanistan. They never sent in anyone by themselves, always massive operations to sweep up the “bad guys” in blocks or entire streets. Hair triggers, full-auto. Kill anyone who puts up any sort of resistance.
Play psychological games with the front line troops. Make them think of each other as brothers. Make them do everything together all the time. Make the enemy into a non-human.
And then there this… https://youtu.be/TkHKMPvNTZQ?t=40
Oh sure we all talk a good game, but “Give me liberty or give me death” doesn’t have quite the same meaning to us when we’re enjoying our morning coffee at home on Sunday morning. I’m sure if the S.W.A.T. team showed up here after I post this comment I’d probably not be able to react quickly enough to put up a defense, especially considering I don’t get paid for training.
This is the fundamental problem with our nation today. We have a tyranny of laws. At least for now we have selective enforcement, unless you’re one of the “others.” But with the surveillance technology getting cheaper and more pervasive it is only a matter of time before every transgression is recorded, logged and prosecuted. God gave us a break because he knows we are flawed. Uncle might not be so magnanimous.
It is just numerically impractical, 100 million armed households with a goodly portion of them military trained veterans. The math does not work. Assume 10-15 minutes contact time, another 15 minutes travel time, how many teams needed to disarm America? They don’t know who all has them or how many. Logistically impossible.
Hi Alex,
I wish I could share your optimism, but I don’t. I once thought Americans would resist – just one example – the TSA and government goons fondling their children and accepting the degradation of themselves. Nope. I once thought Americans would never countenance pre-emptive guilt (e.g., random checkpoints) and having to produce “papers” on demand. Nope.
And logistics?
Australia and Britain have already shown it can be – and has been – done.
Make it a felony to possess a gun and you don’t even need to go door to door. The gun is neutered and so is its owner.
Correct. Should any brave individual resist, nobody will come to his aid. And the next day, after the cops kill him (for which they will get a commendation) the headlines won’t read “Man Dies Defending His Constitutional Rights From Rogue Cops,” but rather, “First Responders Attacked by Crazed Gunman With Arsenal.”
And everyone will say the Pledge and go back to watching football…
People are socially conditioned.
The TSA set up is a combination of the lines at the SoS (DMV) office and the lines the kids had to form before class in my experience in grades 6-8.
The government has had the schools fully for about a century now. And in many places up to another half century plus more. So long as they have the schools liberty is just a word.
In my reply I was going to mention schools. I remember the stupid lines, the drills for this and that. I remember security checks after some kid was caught with fireworks, drugs or something else. I remember being cajoled into participating in Earth Day event in 70. Even then, at the age of 6, I thought something was wrong with the idea, but I couldn’t put my finger on it, of course. Good point on the schools.
Remember, it is the state we are talking about here. I never expect competence. The longer it takes them to get started on this the more people will decide to resist. In the UK and Australia, they really had little need to go door to door, the sheep turned them all in.
Here not so much, in NY and NJ people are resisting by not complying and the states have no idea what to do.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/14322-gun-owners-refuse-to-register-under-new-york-law
The enemies of freedom will never engage 100 Million at once, they will pick them off one by one for years until 100 Million of been brought under thumb. Be it in a camp or a grave, these monsters will deal with all 100 Million, unless the 100 Million deal with them pre-emptively.
History shows us repeatedly, demonstrably, how quickly tides can turn, but also how quickly vices snap shut. The catalysts are either unimaginable bravery, or unimaginable cowardice.
I am thinking that at least 25 million will resist actively, I know a few and I am sure up in Eric’s neck of the woods more as a percentage of the total will prefer to resist.
No government can survive a motivated insurgency.
Hi Alex,
This topic comes up often among my friends and myself. None of us are looking for a fight; all of us would like to avoid a fight, if at all possible. But all of us will fight, if it comes to it. Not that we’re tough guys – wanna be Rambos. We are well aware that we’re a bunch of middle-aged dudes with a lot to lose. But we are also aware that we stand to lose everything if we don’t stand up at some point.
And as I’ve said several times already with regard to Obamacare, I’m just tired. Tired of being mulcted and hassled and not left in peace.
The 3 little pigs story comes to mind. Most of us have houses made of wood. Not quite as bad an armor as straw, but a bad wolf out in the street with a full-auto rifle asking for entry isn’t going to wait around for you do make up your mind. Just blow the house down and be done with it.
Yeah but Ready, how many times does this have to happen and how many people killed before the rest get the idea that compliance can mean you and your family’s death. Like the guy who was murdered crawling to the cop on his knees.
Message received loud and clear.
Freedom only comes from the threat of unrestricted asymmetrical warfare. It is difficult to field enforcers when the enforcers and their loved ones will face true unabashed justice.
That’s my thinking too, tc. It’s true enough that one resister would be overcome easily, but in the case of any door-to-door operation, one resister isn’t what they would face.
Consider a dense population like a city. A resister on one block could be handled with reinforcements, but what about three resisters in three different neighborhoods at the same time? That would take a lot of reinforcements.
Add to that, the front line confiscators getting cell phone calls from home saying that they were being attacked and needed Dad to come home and help them. The chubby blue line would really start to get thin at that point.