This report concerns sickness – of the physical kind – and the way mental illness has altered our perceptions of it and reactions to it. I herewith speak for myself but suspect I speak for more than just a few.
Before three years ago, when you caught a bug – you caught a bug. Or at least, that’s all it was for me.
No one (other than the mentally ill) gave it much more thought. You felt yourself feeling not quite right; one of your nostrils was closing up (maybe both) and you just knew you were going to be riding the Kleenex Express for a few days. But no big deal, other than it being a big pain in the ass.
That is just how I felt Monday. By Tuesday it was clear to me – and everyone around me – that I had caught a bug. Nothing different about it this time than it was the scores of others times going back to childhood when I caught a bug and had the sniffles and generally felt off my game for a few days (hope it hasn’t been too obvious).
Except for the one difference, this time.
Even I, alert as I am to the way hypochondria – a debilitating mental illness – has been egged on by people who aren’t just mentally ill but evil – can’t help having what are probably (diagnostically) hypochondriacal thoughts as I blow my nose into yet another Kleenex.
These do not prompt me to do actually hypochondriacal things, such as fly with my wings flapping like a hysterical chicken to get “tested,” which I know would be stupid because pointless as well as dangerous because it would probably place me on some kind of watch list or otherwise paint me on their radar. Better to fly under it and – besides – what person in his right mind would go to see a doctor at this point in the game, for anything other than a serious physical injury and only then in spurting artery extremis?
The medical profession has about the same credibility at this point as a Mah Jongg fortune teller only it is far more alarming because these white coats have it in their power to do things to you, physically, once they get their hands on you.
Ergo, best to not go near enough to allow them to.
The crazy thing is, they have gotten their hands on our minds. Well, mine. It is no longer just a bug and a few days not-feeling-so-great. I think about what it might be. Is it the bug? I know, of course, it’s not a big deal because it is just a bug, after all. Even if it is the bug. I didn’t die the last time I got it, either – as was true for about 1 percent shy of 100 percent of the people who got it who weren’t also very old or already very sick.
And even then.
My mom – who is in her ’80s – got the bug and survived. It says something about how much most of us had to fear from it beyond a wastebasket full of used Kleenex. But that isn’t the point because those are rational things and this report is about what you might just call the seepage of irrationality into more general circulation. If you doubt it, summon a fake sneeze while standing in a checkout line and watch the way at least a few of those around you will assume a nervous demeanor and perhaps even sidle away from you. This kind of thing almost never happened before three years ago.
You still generally see something in the vicinity of 5-10 percent of the general population wearing the identifying accouterments of the pathologically hypochondriacal. These people are an enervating sight. They keep the mind focused on pathological things, even when you make an enormous effort of will to not allow that to happen.
It . . . seeps in, anyhow.
I know it’s just a bug. I know it’s almost worked its way through my system, that nature has taken its usual course. My sinuses are still plugged up like a catalytic converter with 350,000 miles on it, but the drip has abated and the tubercular coughing is waning. By tomorrow, it’ll probably all be gone.
But I don’t think I’ll ever be the same again.
I don’t think any of us will ever be. Not ourselves, not our civilization, which is damned near wrecked. We ought never to forget that. What they did to us. It will help us keep our minds in the right place, even if sometimes our thoughts have a tendency to wander in unhealthy directions.
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Ex-NYT journo Alex Berenson has posted a devastating takedown of Moderna’s ‘vaccine’ lies:
‘The miscarriage reports are striking, given the small number of women of childbearing age – almost certainly no more than 150, and possibly closer to 100 – in the trial.
Worse, in its final report on side effects, Moderna disclosed a third miscarriage in 2021 in a P201 trial subject after she received a booster shot.
In all, in its final report, Moderna counted a total of 11 people who suffered serious side effects among about 350 people who received the jabs plus a single booster shot.
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/urgent-moderna-hid-serious-side-effects
‘Wait — there’s been a slaughter here!’
— The Doors, Celebration of the Lizard
Predictably, the New York Slimes assails Robert F Kennedy Jr:
Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Soon to Announce White House Run, Sows Doubts About Vaccines
Mr. Kennedy, a Democrat who plans to kick off his campaign this week, says he wants to make vaccines safer, but he is spreading misinformation by twisting facts out of context.
https://archive.ph/HgOnH#selection-273.0-277.176
‘Misinformation,’ cries the Bernaysian Lügenpresse, whose stock in trade is nothing but deception, twisting facts, and sliming anyone who dares to stand for truth.
Kennedy may become the first and only Democrat to whom I ever contribute.
Smash Big Pharma. Smash the Lügenpresse.
Jim,
Funny isn’t it how the New York Times, along with much of the rest of the media, smears RFK Jr as some “Kook Anti-vaxxer”. However, when it comes to vaccines, he’s challenged people to a debate on where he “Got it wrong”, but nobody has ever taken him up on that challenge. As for the media’s smears against him, it’s likely because most of the establishment media gets a considerable amount of advertising dollars from Big Pharma. Not only that, those who are smearing him must be afraid of him. Why, from what I’ve read elsewhere, even the Democrat Party isn’t too thrilled with him running, and some of his own family aren’t too thrilled either. It will be interesting though to see how much support he gets from not just Democrat voters, but also Republican voters, as well as a voting bloc that the media is clearly worried about whom they call ANTI-VAXXERS.
I find Kennedy’s run interesting given what we’ve been forced to endure the past few years, and that he’s one of the few DEMOCRATS out there speaking out against what the U.S. Government has been doing and continues to do to the American people, such as lockdowns, mandatory vaccinations, pushing for CBDCs, etc. Kennedy may also become the first Democrat to whom I ever contribute or vote for President, as all the other Democrat presidential candidates in my adult life have been terrible, and so far it appears that Donald Trump may well become the “R” nominee for President next year.
> Donald Trump may well become the “R” nominee for President next year.
Even if he has to run his campaign from Leavenworth, perhaps(?) destined to be known as the “Kansas White House.”
Who the F* knows?
It’s important to listen to the words from the people who do have the knowledge. You need the proper perspective.
Kary Mullis speaks about the PCR and Dr. Fauci.
Kary Mullis invented the polymerase chain reaction test. Won a big prize for his work.
What was the motive (or many motives) behind the COVID con that humanity has been forced to endure the past few years?
https://elliottmiddleton.substack.com/p/trump-truth-lies-and-the-gradations
California judge fines church $1.2 million for defying mask mandates in 2020:
https://tinyurl.com/hdsfmzry
“In her ruling, Pennypacker said that ‘it should appear clear to all—regardless of religious affiliation—that wearing a mask while worshipping helps protect others while still exercising your right to religious freedom.'”
“‘It’s the county’s job to take care of its residents and protect the public health,’ Santa Clara county counsel James Williams said in a statement praising Pennypacker’s ruling.”
Wear your mask, get the jab, sponsored by Psychopaths R US!
Robert Hare’s checklist to determine if you or others are psychopaths.
Zelensky is probably a psychopath.
Bob Lee must have been in the presence of a psychopath.
“It’s just a Cuban crime of passion, messy and old-fashioned.” – Jimmy Buffet, Cuban Crime Of Passion
Joe Biden parked his rig in front of the White House last night, it was a long ride back home in the big rig for the big guy.
If Michael Dukakis can be a tank driver, then Joe can drive a truck.
The field of vi ro..lo..gy is about the same scientific level as the tooth fairy, the easter bunny, global warming, running your ice car on tap water, making gold from lead, pigs flying…100% fake science
….but….. it is useful in marketing campaigns helping big pharma to pedal stock……..
I will take this opportunity to rant against one of the most ridiculous aspects of the COVIDian hysteria: closing off public drinking fountains. This has mostly ended now, but was common in 2020 and 2021. And was stupid, IMO. Dehydration is a greater risk to most people than COVID. And staying hydrated will probably help prevent sickness. What proof was there that drinking fountains could spread COVID?
Especially at the gyms, SLH. I almost dehydrated there one day because I was unaware of this policy and decided to power through it anyway. Had a bad day.
Go to the rest room and drink from the lav faucet.
Ever taste Phoenix tap water, John?
https://lifestraw.com/
SLH,
I hated the decrees by government of what constituted ESSENTIAL or NON-ESSENTIAL businesses and ESSENTIAL vs NON-ESSENTIAL employees. Large big box stores and large corporations were deemed ESSENTIAL and could stay open during the draconian lockdowns, while small Mom & Pop stores or small businesses were deemed NON-ESSENTIAL and had to close down. It was almost as if the dreaded ‘Rona magically avoided LARGE big box stores and only spread like wildfire at small businesses.
Eric,
You (and everyone else on this site) may like the live song that was performed by Brad Skistimas of Five Times August on this week’s The Highwire…….
https://youtu.be/iweZOafOGeE
I just feel the need to say this…
Viruses are real, and well studied and categorized. Virology and immunology are actually pretty advanced. This isn’t the 19th Century anymore.
Viruses can be manipulated and essentially custom built. They are often used to deliver genes to be reverse transcribed into the genomes of target cells for research. I know. I’ve done.
There are commercial systems readily available for such purposes. Quite honestly, I’m surprised that someone hasn’t killed us all by now. That something would leak from a lab, either accidentally or deliberately, is no surprise to me.
Most likely, we’re in for something worse.
https://forum.ericpetersautos.com/forums/topic/everything-schools-taught-you-about-viruses-was-wrong-see-this/
Let’s see…the good old USA had built or was involved in building 11 bio-safety level 4 labs across Ukraine. Hmmm…Ukraine is the high-tech pharma region of the world? Fauci couldn’t build his viruses in the USA, so he offshored his research to third world regions. China was more than happy to do this research, their gain of function was military, the elf’s was for pollical gain by releasing this bug to destroy an economy and a political leader he loathed.
The Ukraine is the corrupt playground for the democrat-Marxists and the swamp fed government. What they were building in the Ukraine is truly evil, a bug that is genetically modified to attack certain ethnic DNA codes. Want to wipe out your enemies, release this bug upon them. Now if the democrat-Marxists can devise a bug that only kills MAGA supporters they would have it made. As Clint Eastwood said in the Eigar Sanction: “so our enemy stole a germ formula from us? Well, we weren’t supposed have one either.”
The most successful psyop ever is the Rona virus is real! I’ll bet over 99% believe it. Oh, and don’t forget, it was enemy #2,,, the Chinese that turned it loose on innocent America. Enemy #1,,, Russia is still losing badly in Ukraine. Tsar Zelenski to take over in Moscow any day now.
The flu/pneumonia numbered 29 to 35 MILLION per year until the rona,,, then it came in at 2,000. Those getting tested were infected with ??? by the swabs. The rest dying unexpectedly with a short illness and the soon to die unexpectedly are the safe and effective ‘vaxxine’. The (experimental) ‘vaxxine’ (now on the schrool list) given to children will neuter them or they will die from cancers and disease. The brain dead Merican parent will gladly line little Johnny and Suzi up so they could dump him/her/they on the propaganda institution laughingly called school.
Already the official life expectancy has dropped by almost two years,,, in some countries more. We weren’t dying fast enough in Kanada so they came up with euthanasia thingy if you’re feeling down and out. Soon/now? children will be able to off themselves by their own request.
Yes,,, the age of enlightenment fer sure….
**” The brain dead Merican parent will gladly line little
Johnny and SuziAiden and Leighsuh up so they could dump him/her/they on the propaganda institution laughingly called school. “**Fixed that for ya.
(Great post; well said!)
Restaurants, bars, churches, airplanes, places where people gather, do spread colds and flu. Unfortunately, it can be even worse than you think.
Life now is better than at any time during the 1950’s and 1960’s. Sure it is.
Going back to two over-the-air channels and rotary dial telephones will be like going back to the Stone Age.
The 1958 Asian flu resulted in over one million deaths worldwide. Another estimate is as high as four million. Bill Gates was a child then, so he was harmless, Gates is no longer innocent, he’s a perpetrator, a culprit, a clueless idiot to boot. Can’t generate a lot of sympathy for old Billy Goat Bill.
Minimum wage was $1.00 per hour in 1958, silver is at $25.47 a troy ounce today.
You should be paid over 50 thousand dollars each year to keep pace with an income of 2000 USD per year in 1958.
A Universal Basic Income needs to be a minimum of 50,000 Shekels or Reichsmarks or Zimbabwe bucks or Wampum or dollars for each American citizen. In other words, the fiat dollar has to subsidize the 2000 real dollars with an additional 48,000 paper now digital fiat dollars or 24 times more dollars, that’s the government’s job, they fueled it all, so they are responsible.
Gotta be fair, people can’t go hungry, you’ll be a target.
100,000 homeless veterans, 600,000 homeless in the US is a crying shame.
100,000,000,000 dollars to 100,000 homeless veterans would be a reparation of 1,000,000 dollars each.
Ukraine received 400,000,000,000 USD and 250,000 dead Ukrainian soldiers as the Grand Stupid Prize. You’re looking at a 1.6 million dollar cost for each dead Ukrainian soldier.
Lots has been rent asunder.
Joe Biden seems to be good with it, doesn’t bother his conscience much, maybe not at all. Probably should be ashamed of himself, but Joe thinks differently, not in his right mind, for all to see, sticks out in the open, anyhow.
It’s war a-go-go for Wall Street. Zelensky doesn’t mind a salary of 60 million per annum.
It is not a success story, it is a sad story. Has to be making somebody rich, otherwise, there is no use in killing people by the millions since ca. 1960 to the present.
Is anybody happy about it? A filthy ugly obscene special killing operation going on all of the time no matter where on earth while 600,000 homeless clueless Americans wander around with no place to go.
No Congressional declaration of war makes all members of Congress war criminals.
All is fair in love and war, members of Congress can be and are now war criminals. It is a crime for a member of Congress to call for the assassination of a world political leader.
Karma and unintended consequences and all of the nonchalant jazz.
FUBAR is the final result, if not the goal.
“Restaurants, bars, churches, airplanes, places where people gather, do spread colds and flu”
Which is a good thing. The worst thing you can do to your immune system is not challenge it. It’s like a muscle, if you don’t use it, it will quit working. Decades ago I watched a documentary about long term space flight, as in years, perhaps to Jupiter or Saturn. Part of the payload was pathogens, to occasionally introduce to the crew for the express purpose of exercising their immune system. Such would be considered heresy now.
That’s exactly what I’ve been trying to tell some of these thick-headed dildos! But alas, they apparently didn’t want the “covid” regime to end. After all, they got paid to stay home and watch Netflix all day! I dread to think what will happen when/if the next plan-demic hits. Those same dildos will probably have us incarcerated, if not EXECUTED, for questioning the morality of complete asset forfeiture! They’ll just shrug and say something like “But Mr. Schwab says that if we own nothing, we’ll be happy. Quit being anti-happy, and give Mr. Schwab all your stuff!”
And yes, I’m aware that I’ve been painting these seemingly ludicrous hypothetical scenarios (aka “conspiracy theories”) for quite sometime now. But at this point, it’s clear that nothing’s off the table. These luciferians will do whatever it takes to achieve their goal of complete world domination, come hell or high water!
Bluegrey,
I’ve seen ignoramuses on social media claim that Anthony Fauci, lockdowns, and mask/ vaxx mandates “Saved lives”, despite MASSIVE evidence to the contrary. And now, while many of them went on to “Stand with Ukraine!”, they also practically BEGGED Joe Biden to “Do something!” about the mass shootings throughout the country and “Ban guns now!” while supporting the Biden regime sending LOTS of weapons to Keeeeeeeeeeeeeev. That is about as big a cognitive dissonance as shouting “My body, my choice!” re abortion but supporting MANDATES for everyone else to get a COVID jab, no questions asked.
What will these people do if/ when the Biden regime tries implementing the other agendas the WEF is pushing, such as digital ID, transhumanism, CBDCs, EVs, digital vaccine passports, abolishing private home ownership among the masses, consumption of bugs, etc.?
Me logging in: a Diaper Report – oh yay! Does this mean I have issues 😂
A confession.
I got on my knees and wore the mask to keep my eyesight. Not for long, but wear it I did. I’m still weighing the cost/benefit analysis of that. However, in my left eye I now have 20/20 vision, which I haven’t had for 20 years. That’s a pretty hefty benefit. Which will also give me a lifetime of shame for masking as a cost.
On the bright side, when I get my right eye fixed, I might return to my previous high level of hand gun accuracy, and iron sight rifle accuracy. If I can get my arthritis to cooperate.
Hi John,
I am glad to hear about your restored vision – but also infuriated by what they made you do to get it. This is perhaps the ur evil of all of this; the way the good is leveraged to further the bad.
My hate for these people burns hot white.
Well, John, if it makes you feel better: At least it was in a surgical setting, where such Kabukis are often practiced even sans any phony ‘pandemic’. There is a LOT of such Kabuki in medical settings…so don’t feel too bad, as the masking was just another aspect of the witch-doctoring…and if you’re gonna invoke the services of these witch-doctors, ya gotta let them put on their show I guess.
Given the vastness of “gain of function” research going on, your paranoia might be justified. “What have the given me now”? It’s not like they are going to tell us they’ve released a genetically modified virus upon us. Bill Gates never sleeps, because he isn’t human, or at least has no human virtue.
Old school
Patient has symptoms of a cold
Patient stays home until he or she is feeling well
New School
Patient has symptoms of cold
Patient panics — it must be the dreaded Covid
Must get tested
Must take three or four vaccines as soon as soon as possible
Regrets not wearing mask at all times, including while in the shower. It is now a well known medical fact that masks prevent ALL diseases, from cancer to warts.
Eric was t wearing a mask — he is a chronic mask denier — and he is now paying the price forbeing a mask denier — berating those life saving masks.
He was lucky to just get a common cold.
Most people who refuse to wear masks have their lifespans reduced by ten or more years. That’s the cause of excess deaths all around the world — insufficient mask wearing. They could not possibly be caused by the Covid vaccines — those vaccines are safe and effective — the government says so. Joe Biden says so.
And let’s not forget that Joe Biden was once a trailer truck driver who spotted Corn Pop walking on the street with a big chain. Jumpin’ Joe hopped out of his truck, deflected Mr. Pop’s attention by exposing his two hairy white legs, and then beat up Mr. Corn Pop bare handed, got back in his truck, drove to a civil rights demonstration, where he led the march, walking right next to Martin Luther King, Jr.. How can one not take vaccine advice from a hero like that?
This comment is serious,
not satire.
A DC mother is suing a doctor who tried to force her 2 teens to take the COVID jabs……
https://www.wnd.com/2023/04/doctor-sued-coercing-2-teens-take-covid-shots/
10-15 grams of vitamin C per day, zinc zinc zinc, elderberry and ibuprofen. Netti pot and steam will help the sinuses.
Get well soon.
10 ti 15 grams of vitamin C is WAY too much
500mg per day in a supplement is more than enough
Hopefully most from the fruits and vegetables you eat.
The upper limit for all adults is 2,000 mg a day. Although too much dietary vitamin C is unlikely to be harmful, large doses of vitamin C supplements might cause: Diarrhea. Nausea.
25 to 50mg of zinc per day is more than enough.
Zinc absorption can be improved with a quercetin supplement — they usually include vitamin C.
Add 1000 to 2000IU Vitamin D a day and you have our homemade “Covid Vaccine”
Happy to report we (both of us are old) have had no Covid, no Omicron, No influenza, and no common colds in the past three years. I have never had influenza and my last common cold was over five years ago. In spite of a poor diet and lack of exercise.
I am not a doctor, so you CAN take my “Covid vaccine” advice seriously – it is simply the nutritional elements that help the immune system fight respiratory infections.
Unfortunately, food supplements can’t reduce stress, which also weakens the immune system, along with TMB (too many birthdays).
No, Vitamin C at gram levels is what your body would be making if not for a corrupted gene. Most animals manufacture their own Vitamin C. Exceptions are humans, other primates, and guinea pigs. Which are also the species that are allergic to poison ivy. I have found that taking 6 grams of C per day has made me immune to poison ivy.
Humans, unlike most animals, are unable to synthesize vitamin C endogenously, so it is an essential dietary component.
You must be thinking of Vitamin D.
I am allergic to poison ivy but have avoided it since 1987.
That does not prove any food supplement pill I’m taking reduced my allergy. After telling me she had never had poison ivy, despite being an avid gardener for over 40 years. Then she got the rash. Twice in the next ten years.
Vitamin C is a natural anti-histamine and helps to reduce swelling, so it is also useful as a poison ivy treatment.
I do not believe there is any scientific evidence that taking large vitamin C doses will prevent poison ivy.
Richard, you are way off base on your C and D3 notions. You MIGHT get by on 500 mg of C, if you take it in 3 or 4 doses, since you piss it out almost as fast as you take it. I take 1000 mg of delayed release C twice a day. You will know if you take too much, because you get diarhea. D3 is entirely subjective. Dependent upon your complexion and sun exposure. A dark skinned person at Northern latitudes may need up to 60k IUs. Since I don’t get a lot of sun exposure, I take 10k IUs per day. No ill effects. But that’s just me, and my subjective situation.
Have your Vit, D blood level checked. I increased (tripled my inter dose) to 15000IU a day when Covid hit. My Vit D blood level rose to well above the recommended top limit. Too much Vit D does have negative side effects.
We get Vit D from some foods, and the sun, along with Vit C from some foods too. I’m just talking about supplements (pills) in ADDITION to the vitamins in the foods we eat, and Vit D. from the sun that hits our bare skin.
Too much Zinc will make you nauseous. Typically I double my dose, and that of D3, for one day upon the advent of symptoms. Also a tumbler full of colloidal Silver, which I make myself and keeps forever. Works pretty good for a fast recovery.
Listening to leftist also causes nausea.
Hope ya feel better Eric.
Hot Toddy’s always do the trick, helped me through crap, and so did Ivermectin, helps a lot.
Also, heard from my ex and my cousins gf, both nurses, that the Holy Face Diaper is no longer required at the hospitals, so this craps finally over(… for now)
Still know who’s crazy when ya see them driving alone masked up
And chicken soup. Especially for a chronic dry cough.
Hey Eric,
I think you have a lot of courage for admitting that all the years of hysteria have gotten to you. Even you! Luckily, I think that sneezing and the sniffles are actually pretty rare symptoms for the Kung Flu, so that’s probably not your ailment. Also, after the end of 2021, most strains of the ‘Rona are pretty mild, like the one you experienced.
That said, I sure as fuck don’t want it again, either, with what I experienced, but I haven’t altered my life to avoid such a fate, either.
It’s better one be aware of their weaknesses, lest they succumb to them.
Also remember this the start of allergy season and the tree pollen is bad this year. And the older we get, we become more susceptible to stuff that never phased us in our youth. I guess the bastards at the pharmaceuticals will be coming out with the allergy version of the clot shot next!
I will never take a COVID test. Not only are they phoney-baloney, with huge numbers of false positives, but in my state, Ohio, if you test positive, you are entered into a police database. So the cops know, when they scan your license plate, if you are a dreaded pestilence-carrier. At least that was what was reported in 2020, when the hysteria was at its height. I don’t know if that is still the case.
It’s interesting how, as time passes, the scammers don’t even bother trying to name a new scariant. No super scientists are tracking down the “lineage” in some far flung lab. The fraudulent tests make no distinction either. People just lazily revert to using the name of the sickness from early 2020. They forget all common sense about natural immunity to a sickness upon healing and say things like “I got it 3 times over 3 years.” We’re to believe there’ll be colds, flus, and now a third thing, coofy-doof-19, forever, and that, while none are bacterial infections, the one from 2020 was made in a lab in Chy-na and can be cured by an anti-parasitical drug. It’s all of a piece with “believing” in any number of the hysterical frauds being perpetrated against the people today.
Hi FDS,
You make a very valid point. Only with COVID have I ever heard people say “I got it 5x so far”. How we ever heard anybody say “I just got my 62nd head cold or my 7th flu”? Will be we ever go back to the days of just talking with someone and saying “Yeah, I got some type of bug that put me out of commission for a few days, but I am feeling better.” And then it is forgotten.
The whole “one virus” thing is/was a fraud. The “variant” aspect of it was unbelievably fraudulent, right out in the open.
Jon Rappoport linked to this Business Insider piece in a post in 8/21:
You aren’t legally allowed to know which variant gave you COVID-19 in the US, even if it’s Delta
https://www.businessinsider.com/covid-patients-cant-know-which-variant-infected-them-delta-2021-8
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That people even mention they had a “variant” of “it” blows my mind. I think the content of the link is why they dispatched with the variant story and people reverted to saying they were getting the 2020 illness over and over, which is ludicrous. The whole thing was/is a pack of lies. It’s actually really painful to read that link today due to some of the absolute whoppers still being told in August 2021, especially about masks and “distancing.”
COVID 19 variant sysmptoms are almost identical
The exception is Omicron, which is not Covid — it is just a coronavirus common cold with the same very low infection fatality rate (IFR) as any other coronavirus common cold, and lasts 2 to 7 days.
Actual Covid19 has a MUCH higher IFR and lasts one to three weeks.
Antibodies from one Covid19 varient infection protected against other variants for an unknown amount of time, but did NOT protect against Omicron.
Omicron is most likely a distant variant that developed in a person simultaneously infected by Covid19 and a coronavirus common cold.
Omicron had 32 spike protein mutations versus half as many for Delta Covid versus Alpha Covid. That’s why the symptoms of Covid19 and Omicron are VERY different.
Yeah, right, and it’s illegal to tell someone what scariant they had. So how could anyone ever know one from another and make these ridiculous distinctions you’re making? They can’t. The whole thing is fake. They renamed colds and flus, created a cute little spike ball graphic (now with 32 spikes! numerology coding) and morons like you bought it lock, stock, and barrel. Keep spinning those fairytales.
If you had a common cold would you be upset if you did not know if it was a coronavirus common cold or not? What difference would that knowledge make?
You’re the one who was spouting all the different “variants” and their distinctions. That it is illegal for people to actually know which is which and what is what should at least raise a suspicion that maybe your Yahoo News level of received knowledge on the topic, all of it, is some Grade A bullshit.
If you had one of many Covid19 variants, your immune system will cure you in one to three weeks typically. If you are old and sickly, you might die.
If you had Omicron, your immune system will cure you in 2 to 7 days typically. Even if you are old and sickly your chance of dying is very low.
Most people have had many respiratory infections in their lifetimes. How often did they find out EXACTLY what virus had made them sick? Never in my almost 70 years on Earth.
The level of specificity with which you speak about so-called variants is contradicted by your last paragraph. The tests for the past 3 years were a fraud to convince people an imaginary virus existed that required all that followed. The variant aspect was conjured to attempt to overcome the notion that, once you get a sickness, you are heretofore immune from getting it again. That it was illegal to ascertain the specific variant via a test is a tell that nonesuch exists. I feel like I’m repeating myself, so I’m done for now.
PCR tests were not a fraud, The CT rates used with the PCR tests were much too high, causing too many false positives.
The PCR tests did not, I believe, specify which variant of Covid19 you had.
All respiratory virus epidemics in history ended after a series of mutations caused a much less deadly variant. That process usually takes a year or two.
Covid mutations took about two years, and the result was Omicron, a coronavirus common cold distant variant of Covid19, that “crowded out” Covid19 infections …which was a lucky break for us.
Richard,
Of course they were a fraud – if by “fraud” one means grossly inaccurate. Rendered that way, on purpose – by CT counts. And thus, presto – the cases! the cases!
Your quibbling is simply stupendous.
These inaccurate results were then used to perpetuate a con – the lie that a deadly plague was afoot that threatened everyone with death. When in fact, it threatened almost no one with more than a bad cold.
The “lucky break” for us was that there enough people who pointed out the serial fraud as to eventually cause the fraud to unravel. If we had relied on the frauds – Fauci, the CDC – everyone would still be Face Diapering and probably “locked down,” too.
This would probably suit you as you are willing Diaper wearer (and defender).
A newly hightened concern for even mild illness is appropriate now, due to the complete loss of trust you cited in the medical/pharmaceutical industry.
Now we must concentrate on building health, fitness, and above all, our immune systems. All the old backstops, real or imagined, are gone forever. This kind of betrayal destroys trust for at least three generations.
Fido,
“Building our immune systems” might one day be added to the Biden regime’s list of “DANGEROUS THOUGHTS”, as they pushed the narrative that “natural immunity” was a CONSPIRACY THEORY. (Possible future question from a corrupt public health bureaucrat) “Don’t you know that the only way to build your immune system is through brand new, rushed mRNA vaccines?”
It seemed like everything learned about viral epidemics in the past century was thrown out in 2020 and the all new leftist version was invented WHILE Trump was president.
Masks don’t work
Respiratory viruses mutate to evade vaccines
Deadly viruses mutate into less deadly variants and the pandemic or epidemic ends in a year or two
You lockdown the sick people, not the healthy people.
A safe and effective vaccine developed in 9 months would have been a miracle — a new vaccine usually takes 10 years with a 98% failure rate.
The leftists threw the accumulated virus knowledge out the window, and implemented their usual leftist “fix” for everything, that never works: More government mandates, and do what we say without question.
They throw reason, logic, and The Truth itself out the window if they think it’ll advance their power base.
But it’s not really the leftists; they’re just “useful idiots”: Abandoning reason and logic does not persuade anyone with even a casual interest in truth. What it *does* do, it humiliate. If they can get you to bite your lip as they promote the most banal absurdities, you’re disempowered. If they can get you to mouth the lie yourself, you’re their slave.
The point is not to get you to believe anything; they’re not trying to persuade you to their viewpoint. They’re trying to get you upset, and outraged at the chaos and violence. They want you to *demand* a return to order. They want you so upset that you demand a Hitler to put an end to the absurdities once and for all.
Yes, the people behind the funding of the transgender movement are trying to create *demand* for a top down totalitarian government.
Richard,
You completely miss the point. The “pandemic” was not about errors made in the course of trying to solve a problem. The “pandemic” was engineered to create a solution – to the problem of people thinking (and acting) as if they still had rights worth talking about. It was meant to show them otherwise. It was meant to establish precedents, the “new normal” – which will become more “normal” as this elaborates.
The pandemic was not planned.
It was an accident in a Chinese lab.
The pandemic was used to create fear and governments used that fear to seize more power.
Just as they abuse any crisis, such as the real 9.11 attacks, or the fake coming climate crisis. Never let a crisis go to waste.
I have no idea what you are trying to say. It seems like you are declaring the Covid pandemic was not real. That it was a planned event. If that is what you really believe, then you are deluded.
Richard writes:
“The pandemic was not planned.”
A more stupendously naive – even imbecilic – notion is hard to imagine. We have the coincidence, just months prior to the “pandemic” of a simulated one. The same set of characters we came to know during the “pandemic” were closely involved in the play-pretend one. We have an unprecedented coordination all the world over, government and media, to sing the same song. It all just happened to happen during the last year of the Orange Man’s reviled tenure… just before an election he seemed sure to win, easily. But it was just a random happenstance.
The “COVID” pandemic wasn’t real. No more real than a putative “pandemic” of depression. Real pandemics do not have recovery rates of almost everyone. An example of a real pandemic would be the last bout of plague in Europe. Lots of healthy people literally dropping dead in the streets. As opposed to almost entirely extremely old/very frail people in nursing homes.
PS: Do you believe WTC 7 came down as it did to honor the Twin Towers? That a barely trained single engine Cessna pilot can put a 757 through violent maneuvers the thing was never designed for (in the hands of an experienced multi-engine jet pilot) and – rather than pile-drive it into the ground, bring it to less than 50 feet off the deck and then fly it at 300-plus MPH straight into the side of the Pentagon?
I have a real nice time-share I’d like to show you…
You beat me to the punch, Eric. 🙂 I was a few minutes too late.
Eric,
Not only that, people who had an irrational hatred of Trump reflexively listened to whatever Tony Fauci said and even treated him like some GOD of Public Health. When Trump advocated Hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for COVID, Fauci and the media immediately smeared it as “Trump’s dangerous treatment.” Fauci even issued diktats for “social distancing”, lockdowns, and face diaper mandates, and those people dutifully complied and tried to snitch on those who didn’t comply. To this day, there are STILL people who worship at Fauci’s feet, and even claim that the only people who DIED were those who didn’t listen to Fauci and wear face diapers or take X number of COVID jabs.
Trump gave Fauci and Birx the HUGE amount of face time on TV they used to scare the American people. Their Covid exaggerations and lies were Trump’s responsibility.
The haphazard, rushed vaccine was financed by Trump.
Trump claimed one hundred million lives were saved by “his” vaccines (said earlier this year) … when mortality data do not show any lives being saved. That is the statement of an idiot.
On the subject of Covid, and Covid vaccines, Trump has been wrong repeatedly, and shot himself in the foot repeatedly.
You ought to start a science conspiracy theory journal:
Nutter Science Review
The pandemic was not planned
The pandemic was real
About seven million people died worldwide from Covid complications
US (2020 through 2023 so far)
— Over one million Covid deaths estimate
US worst recent three consecutive flu seasons estimate (2012 through 2015) — only 132,000 deaths
These data are from the CDC, which Mr. Peters will immediately dismiss with a flick of his wrist, as “completely wrong”, simply because they do not support his conspiracy theory narrative. No alternative statistics will be provided.
You seem to think Covid was nothing more than a bad flu season. That is completely delusional thinking.
What amazes me is that you can spout science and medicine nonsense, and related conspiracy theories, yet write good car reviews. There ought to be some kind of prize for that.
Richard,
I have pointed out facts as regards the established untruthfulness and (it is reasonable to infer from this) the maliciousness of the CDC and the WHO. You respond to my pointing out these facts – and making reasonable inferences – with insults. I am a “nutter” who spouts “nonsense.”
We have been down this road before.
You appear to be one of those older people who grew up with ingrained faith in the basically good offices – so to speak – of government. You seem unable to understand how evil it can be. And often, is.
The fact that you could say what you did earlier about the Chinese seems to confirm this.
I have been a libertarian since 1973 and do not trust the government.
I have a climate science and energy blog that publicizes authors who refute government climate scaremongering. It has had over 400,000 page views since 2016.
The difference between us is that I know not everything we hear from the government is false.
It takes a lot of reading and analysis to determine the difference between government reality and government propaganda.
You are too busy with cars to have time for so much off topic analysis.
The result appears to be that you are the mirror image of leftists.
Leftists assume the government is always correct.
You assume the government is always wrong.
Both extreme positions are simplistic, and do not match reality.
If you assume the government is always wrong, you can then make up conspiracy theories on any subject. Just ignore all available information and data that contradict your theories. That’s called confirmation bias.
And you are infected.
One difference with leftists: They refuse to debate their leftist beliefs, while you do not refuse to debate your conspiracy theories. That is very libertarian of you.
Richard,
The difference between us is that I do no trust the government. Because it is falsity officialized. Why would anyone with any sense bother listening to what established, serial dissemblers have to say? About anything?
I wish you would not stoop to characterizing everyone who disagrees with what you believe is true a “conspiracy theorist.” There is plenty of conspiracy fact to rebut that.
I have plenty of time – and bandwidth – to look into other issues. As apparently you have as well. Yet I do not resort to snide derisive comments about an economics blogger holding forth about sickness, for instance.
Richard,
Do you have no recollection of the incentivization of “COVID”? The way doctors/hospitals were rewarded, financially, for jotting down “died from COVID” on death certificates? Among the most egregious examples of the latter being the case of the Florida motorcyclist – a guy in his 20s, apparently – who wrecked his bike and died of his injuries. But his death was listed as “because COVID” because his corpse “tested positive.”
Why is it that such facts waft right by people such as yourself?
Those facts abut Covid scaremongering did not pass me by. I had published hundreds of articles about Covid and Covid vaccines on my former blog Election Circus. And I still read and recommend a few (anti) Covid vaccine articles today on my climate science and energy blog, in my list of pff-topic article I recommend. There are already two anti-vax articles on today’s list, which is still being compiled:
https://honestclimatescience.blogspot.com/2023/04/off-topic-other-interesting-articles-i_17.html
Every article I have published, or have recommended, refutes government claims about Covid and Covid vaccines except one:
US all cause mortality jumped an unprecedented +19% in 2020 versus 2019, almost entirely caused by the Covid epidemic.
The CDC estimate of excess mortality from Covid since March 2020 is over one million deaths. In 2021 and 2022 we can’t be sure which spike proteins caused most of those deaths — those from a natural Covid infection or those from a Covid vaccine. But in 2020 we know there were no Covid vaccine deaths.
The worst three year period for CDC estimated flu deaths in recent decades was 2012 though 2015, with an estimated 132,000 flu deaths in three years. Not enough year to year variation to be visible in the roughly 3 million all cause mortality every year.
But over one million excess deaths WERE reflected in all cause mortality in 2020, 2021 and 2022.
That means the past three years were not just ‘bad flu years’, as you falsely believe.
There is an important debate on how many excess deaths in 2021 and 2022 were caused by Covid vaccines.
Everyone is entitled to a guess — my own guess in 100,000 vaccine related deaths.
ROFLMAO.
Are you kidding, Richard? It was not planned?!?! Event 201 took place 60 days before the first signs of the virus showed up on Wuhan’s door step. The entire WEF are seers?
COVID was planned because they needed to instill fear and panic to bring on their brand of “change.” Vax passports, climate change, digital currency, etc. They needed the population to focus on something other than on what the world governments and mega corporations were doing behind closed doors.
The Spanish Flu was unplanned, the Black Plague was unplanned, getting cholera on the Oregon Trail was unplanned…COVID was a commitment manufactured, produced, and spoon fed to the public for nothing more than a sinister purpose.
RG,
Those people even had a Monkeypox pandemic simulation back in, IIRC, 2021. And what happens in May 2022? We had governments and media trying to scare the public about MONKEYPOX and manipulating them into lining up to get monkeypox vaccines. However, unlike the ‘Rona, it was far more difficult for Monkeypox to spread, and people who did get it were largely gay men engaging in sexual activity.
The Chinese planned to have a llab accident that killed many Chinese people? That is an insane thought.
If it had been planned, the Chinese would have avoided killing Chinese people, and only sent infected patients on planes to other nations.
You are delusional on this subject just like Mr. Peters.
You are right, Richard (sarc).
Lord knows the Chinese don’t have a history of killing their own people. They also have no problem aborting babies. I have found a pretty solid correlation that countries that are advocates for killing the most innocent of lives don’t seem to care too much when they off a few that made it successfully out of the womb.
China had annihilated over 65 million of their own people during Mao’s tenure which is the same systematic communist ideology that is being instilled today . Under COVID they locked their own people into their homes (mainly studio apartments) and watched them starve nor allow them to seek medical attention.
Governments have murdered their own people for thousands of years, but all of a sudden we are to foolishly conceive this time is different? I guarantee no government leader has lost sleep offing a few serfs, China, in its present form, included.
Richard,
It’s not delusion to infer from prior facts current intent. As RG has already pointed out, the Chinese communists have killed millions of Chinese. It is not a debatable point. Your naivety as regards the evil government is capable of is astounding.
There are many pandemic planning computer simulation exercises EVERY year, for at least the past 20 years.
No matter when SARs-2 was first identified, one could point to the prior pandemic planning simulation closest to that date, and falsely claim it “predicted” the SARS 2 pandemic. This is a silly conspiracy theory that deserves the “Tin Hat” award.
ONE EXAMPLE:
Eleven pandemic preparedness tests were staged in the UK from 2015 to 2019. During that period, there was Exercise Alice, testing readiness to cope with Middle East Respiratory syndrome (MERS), a coronavirus. The MERS exercise was run in February 2016.
https://www.leighday.co.uk/news/news/2021-news/eleven-pandemic-simulation-exercises-were-staged-between-2015-19/
Event 201 was an event organized in October 2019 to simulate what might happen if there was a “high-level” pandemic.
Event 201 was a 3.5-hour pandemic tabletop exercise that simulated a series of dramatic, scenario-based facilitated discussions, confronting difficult, true-to-life dilemmas associated with response to a hypothetical, but scientifically plausible, pandemic.
Richard,
You ignore the key fact that many of the people organizing these “exercises” are the same ones who came to the fore during the live-fire exercise. You pass right over the malignant presence of Bill Gates and the financial involvement of his foundation in funding the WHO and “vaccination” campaigns. His convenient purchase (and sale) of stock in “vaccines.” And so many other such things.
Don’t let ’em get in your noggin, Eric.
I’ve gone down the rabbit hole and have concluded with reasonable confidence that viruses likely do not exist and are not the cause of sickness and disease. Dr. Sam Bailey does a pretty good job explaining this point. https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c
Virology appears to me to be a pseudoscience like say phrenology.
The government is far more corrupt and illegal then you could imagine…
Learn your rights in 20 seconds
this should be taught in school….people have no idea what their rights are….or how many laws the politicians/government are breaking….
@ 1:32 in video what they teach at law school now is not law
@ 8:59 in video telling you to wear a mask is violating your inalienable rights……(meaning…not capable of being taken away or denied)…also tell them to show proof that the mask works…they are making a claim…make them prove that claim….confront them…whoever makes the claim is responsible nobody else…
@ 12:20 whoever makes the claim is responsible nobody else, not the government, a corporation, or their employer, employers were forcing their staff to make these claims…the employee was liable for…. not the employer………think about suing them…
@ 11:22 in video…you have to fight for peace…peace is another one of your inalienable rights….but you have to fight for it all the time…you have to get into conflict and confrontation…(you have been taught not to in school, etc., because it would solve all the world’s problems if we did)…
@ 16:00 it is your responsibility to confront people violating your rights
@ 20:00 in video the constitution and bill of rights say you cannot suffer fines or forfeitures without a trial by jury…this isn’t taught at law school..
@ 21:40 the legal system and legislation is what facilitates what happened to you the last 3 years..
@ 28:40 re: speeding ticket fines..
@ 31:30 city put clamp on vehicle wheel on private property for 70 days…because of speeding ticket…..the defendant sues city for $1.2 million…
@ 38:50 legislation doesn’t apply to you without your consent…
@ 41:00 write in your own words don’t use a template…
@ 41:20 when you enter a court they have made 12 or maybe 20 presumptions (something taken as being true or factual and used as a starting point for a course of action).. about you…you have to say…I rebut all presumptions made about me when you enter…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C3QlG9t010
I caught the covid twice. Prior to getting that, I hadn’t had a cold that lasted more than a day in 11 years. I began regular chiropractic adjustments in early 2009 and continued weekly ever since. I had never felt better.
I got it in 2/20, before it became a thing. How do I know? I had never felt that way before. Persisent dry cough. Severe drop in energy levels. Shortness of breath. Severe headache. Difficulty sleeping. It was so bad I went to a doctor. They told me I had flu like symptoms, but no flu. I was confused, they handed me a script with a bunch of crap. All I did was take an ibuprofen so I could releieve the pounding headache. After taking it, I recovered from it (largely) in 5 days. I medicated myself with grapefruits ( a whole lot), elderberry, C, D3 and Zinc. Took it all the time. The only lingering effect (for months) was shortness of breath after working out. That was solved by two breathing treatments of colloidal silver. After that, back to normal. I wen
Again in late 2021, I had a bout of the shits. It lasted 4 days. A friend told me it was viral an told me to take black seed oil. I took lots of it and was better. I had the same symptoms of lack of energy and headache, so I thought it might be a different form of COVID.
The third time was in 2022. I had the black seed oil. I had grapefruits and all the rest. I took them and it lasted 3 days. On day 2 and 3 I had lost my sense of taste and smell. It took a little for it to come back, but I felt it come back.
The bottom line, this thing is pretty strong, but it is not responsible for people dying. I believe that the vax created these weird variants. Regardless, if it’s the sniffles, it isn’t covid, even if it is, it’s not worth 1/100th of 1 percent of the freedoms we have left. Throw it down the drain
“The bottom line, this thing is pretty strong, but it is not responsible for people dying”
Baloney
Covid is responsible for a huge and unprecedented increase in US all cause mortality in 2020. Also contributed to similarly high mortality in 2021. You are a reality denier.
Richard,
My understanding is that deaths attributed to the flu all-but-disappeared during the “pandemic.” If true, then it is strongly suggestive that “COVID” was the flu, rebranded.
And the fact remains that irrespective of what it was – or is – most people who got it felt bad for a bit and then were ok. The whole thing was grossly exaggerated for evil purposes, a theme that has become so obvious anyone not an imbecile ought to be able to recognize it by now.
The people claiming the re-branded flu is a modern holocaust never address the question of why. Why did flu deaths drop to near zero during year one and two of the pandemic. Math so easy, you’d think any imbecile could recognize that its just the flu.
Flu “deaths” is a CDC computer model estimate. They program their computers for whatever number they want to show the public. If they want to show more Covid deaths, they start by reducing their flu death estimate.
If you are interested, there are no influenza deaths. Death requires the failure of a major organ. With respiratory diseases, that’s usually the lungs. After a pneumonia infection. Influenza is not a CDC approved cause of death on a death certificate. It can only be a contributory cause of death.
Oy vey –
“If you are interested, there are no influenza deaths. Death requires the failure of a major organ. With respiratory diseases, that’s usually the lungs. After a pneumonia infection. Influenza is not a CDC approved cause of death on a death certificate. It can only be a contributory cause of death.”
And how does the ‘Rona cause death, then? Is it not by organ failure as well? And how does what the CDC arbitrarily “approves” carry any weight? Who gives a flip what the CDC approves?
Covid causes death by a failure of major organs. But the CDC decided in March 2020 to call Covid a cause of death. That contradicts their instructions to NOT call influenza a cause of death on death certificates.
Indeed, Richard –
And what you say simply buttresses my earlier point about the CDC being untrustworthy. So why continue to reference anything it says when it is clear nothing it says is trustworthy?
Eric,
I don’t know if you already knew this, but there was someone who did the calculations of COVID mortality, and overall it turned out to be LESS than 1% for healthy people under 70. Not only that, the younger people were, the odds of them DYING FROM COVID got ever closer to ZERO. As for people older than 70, they still had about a 95% chance of SURVIVAL, though the ‘Rona tended to be more problematic if they had an existing health problem such as obesity, heart disease, or diabetes. For a virus that had such a high survival rate, it was totally unnecessary to run the MASSIVE experiment known as “locking down” the entire human population, shutting down world economies, and implementing all the other draconian COVID measures that ended up being a “cure” WORSE than the disease itself. Doctors & scientists who tried to speak out were “canceled”.
As for COVID patients who went to a hospital,
hospitals were using treatments on COVID patients that turned out to be DEADLY; i.e. putting them on ventilators and/ or giving them the “Tony Fauci recommended drug”, Remdesivir. Hospitals also got paid extra if a patient’s death was listed as “Died FROM COVID”, even if that patient actually died from something else. As if what humanity has been forced to endure in 2020 wasn’t crazy enough, the government and the captive agencies known as the FDA & CDC, along with the media, started pushing that experimental mRNA jab as “The savior” for what we’ve been forced to endure in 2020 & 2021.
Given what our government and certain governors around the country, along with hospitals and other governments around the world did to innocent people, we may never know how many “COVID DEATHS” were actually people who died from something else or were MURDERED by government and/ or faulty protocols. As for the COVID jabs, last I checked, in the U.S., VAERS has reports of death at over 35,000, but there was a study around 2010 indicating MASSIVE UNDER REPORTING of vaccine injuries and deaths, so the actual number of deaths from the “Miracle COVID vaccines” could be as high as 3.5 MILLION just in the U.S.
VAERS gets no more than 10% of people reporting, based on the most positive study of the database. But many reports are just coincidences.
Anyone can guess what the real number of Covid vaccine
deaths are — very likely higher than 35,000. My own guess is 105,000:
I assume 10% deaths reported
I assume 2/3 of all reports are coincidences.
Every other guess I’ve seen is higher than mine.
3.5 million Covid vaccine deaths in the US is delusional, so making that data-free guess could ruin your reputation.
Richard,
I’m not guessing that there are 3.5 million vaxx deaths, but there was that life insurance company who said non-COVID deaths among working age people are up 40% from Pre-pandemic levels, which just happened to coincide with the rollout of the “Safe and Effective” COVID jabs. The media also concocted new terms to explain the staggering numbers of athletes, celebrities, and ordinary people who collapsed or dropped dead right in the middle of playing sports or engaging in normal living……”Sudden Adult Death Syndrome” or “Died Suddenly”.
The CDC also implemented a new COVID vaxx smartphone app called “V-Safe” where people who got vaxxed could report any reactions they had after getting jabbed. However, they tried to keep data in that hidden from the public until a lawsuit forced them to release the data while keeping the identities of people who made reports confidential. Any other experimental pharma product that had the amount of reports the COVID jabs had would have been pulled off the shelves long ago, but the Biden Thing, plus the CDC & FDA, continue pushing COVID vaccines AND boosters, and now the biotech industry is even looking at injecting mRNA vaccines into poultry and cattle.
US all-cause deaths went up +19% in 2020 and remained high in 2021.
Life insurance companies cover only half of adult Americans, and no single company covers more than a small percentage of the total US population.
The deaths of middle age Americans was unusually high in 3Q 2021 — but to focus on that one quarter is data mining.
There is no indication that 3.5 million Americans died from Covid vaccines. And no evidence that 300,000 died either, other than wild guesses.
I am trying to be polite and yet still warn you that claiming 3.5 million Americans died from Covid vaccines will result in you never being taken seriously on the subject.
Covid vaccines should never have been released after only two months of testing and should have been cancelled after a few months of adverse side effects reports that were 50x worse than prior vaccines for the most serious side effects.
Influenza is not a CDC APPROVED CAUSE OF DEATH for death certificates. So the flu deaths are a computer model estimate. There are no lists of actual names for flu deaths. Most doctors believe the CDC estimated flu deaths are too high.
There is no doubt that flu death estimates were reduced during Covid for political reasons. But social distancing does reduce flu nnfection spread.
The death WITH Covid statistic sounds completely wrong at first: Any death within 28 days of a positive PCR test, from any cause, it assumed to be a Covid death??
But the numbers collected with that strange methodology were similar to estimated US excess deaths and Covid was the best explanation for the huge jump of excess deaths in 2020.
In 2021, the Covid vaccine became a possible cause of excess deaths.
The deaths WITH Covid numbers appear to be in the ballpark of a deaths FROM Covid estimate.
There were a lot of elderly people near the end of their lives — their Covid infections just pulled ahead the end date.
But as of March 2020, the CDC said Covid could be listed as a cause of death on a death certificate. While influenza still could not be. If the CDC wanted to show a lot of Covid deaths, they would start with a low flu death estimate. I am assuming the CDC does not lie about total all cause US mortality, but the cause of death could be “massaged” for political reasons.
A lot of elderly Americans died from Covid in 2020, so excess deaths should have declined in 2021 for that reason alone.
Even more if the vaccines worked in 2021. In fact, excess deaths did not decline much. The Covid vaccines were obviously having little or no effect on all-cause mortality.
We had lots of excess deaths om 2020 and 2021. That should mean below average all-cause mortality in 2022, especially as the almost always non-fatal common cold Omicron crowded out much the more deadly actual Covid 19. Excess deaths did decline in 2020, but not very much.
So we have a big problem:
— Why did US excess deaths not fall rapidly after Covid19 “culled the herd” of the most vulnerable elderly Americans in 2020 and 2021?
We would need lots of autopsies to be sure, but one possibility is that multiple Covid vaccines have harmed the immune systems of too many Americans. That’s my best guess.
The computer model CDC estimate of flu deaths each year is so small relative to total all-cause mortality that it barely affects excess death estimates.
The Covid epidemic in 2020 increased all-cause mortality +19%. That is huge. Almost like the US being attacked by another nation. Unprecedented since the 1918 to 2020 influenza epidemic.
The fact that this so called “new and improved” virus presented an average age of death nearly identical to the pre Covid average life span, and often significantly older, pretty much sums it up.
That statement means only that the oldest Americans with the least effective immune systems were most likely to die from a SARS-2 infection. The average number of years of life lost to Covid was not high because young and middle aged people rarely died.
The statistic does not “sum up” anything else.
I have to disagree with you, Richard. The year 2020 began (and ended) as an average rate of passing until the CDC (in January 2021) decided to back track and dump a large amount of excessive deaths onto the total. I would be curious how many of these were natural deaths vs hospitalized deaths where a respirator was forced onto unwilling participants.
How convenient that December 2020 also happened to be the the same month that the vaccines were shipped and people all across the USSA rolled up their sleeves. Vaccine? Excess deaths in December? Things that make you go umm…
Do you have any reports regarding death rates in 2021, 2022, and the first quarter of 2023? That I would be interested in if I could find them.
CDC provides all cause mortality for 2019, 2020, and 2021. Maybe 2022 by the end of this year.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm
A very large number of elderly Americans died in March through June 2020. The increase in all-cause mortality was huge and unprecedented. The biggest increase since the 1918 to 2020 flu epidemic.
CDC’ 2020 all cause mortality data were not available until the end of 2021
And the deaths WITH Covid statistic turned out to be a reasonable estimate of deaths FROM Covid, based on excess deaths analyses. Actual causes of deaths need an autopsy to be sure. Especially deaths following Covid shots. That’s why there are very few autopsies.
Americans dying in 2019
2,854,838 all cause mortality
Americans dying in 2020
3,390,029, all cause mortality, up +19%
All cause mortality might increase a percentage point or two from population growth and population aging, in a typical year.
But +19% is mainly from Covid.
Source:
https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2022/03/united-states-deaths-spiked-as-covid-19-continued.html
Richard,
Why would any reasonable person give credence to anything stated by the CDC? Would you listen to Rochelle Walensky?
You do not factor in the fact that people were murdered by the white coats, as by crowding the old folks together, as by placing people on ventilators and shoving Remdisivir into them. No mention of the effect of delayed diagnosis/treatment of serious illness due to “lockdowns” and so on.
And there is still this business about flu deaths just sort of disappearing at just the same time that people were said to be dying all over of the ‘Rona…
Regardless, the important point – which is inarguable – is that the threat of “COVID” was grossly overstated, well after the actual risk to the general population was known. They lied, serially – for the most evil reasons imaginable. May they all burn in Hell. Or even better, before they get there.
If you distrust all government statistics, then you will be data-free in debates on most subjects.
If you claim CDC all-cause mortality numbers are wrong, then you must provide an alternative dataset.
The CDC can’t be trusted on anything attitude is a conspiracy theory — implying INFORMATION from all governments and their agencies is 100% WRONG.
And your proof of the allegedly wrong all-cause mortality statistics is what?
And your alternative all-cause mortality data are from where?
No one was deliberately murdered by doctors. That is also conspiracy theory talk.
The medical profession addressed Covid poorly BUT THEY DID NOT DELIBERATELY MURDER PEOPLE.
if you believe Covid was not the primary cause of the HUGE +19% of all cause mortality increase in 2020, versus 2019, then please provide an alternative explanation that makes sense.
The implication that CDC made up the all-cause mortality numbers for 2020, and they are actually false, is wild, data-free, evidence-free, conspiracy theory speculation.
Richard,
The fallacy ought to be obvious. One does not need government statistics to have data. The facts are what they are, often at odds with government “stats.”
No one was “deliberately” murdered, eh? We are to believe these white-coats had no idea that clamping ventilators in people was a bad idea … after they saw how “safe and effective” it was? Like the dangerous drugs they aggressively helped to push on behalf of their owners, the pharmaceutical cartels? Many of these same poltroon-quacks are still trying to force “masks” on people as a condition of availing oneself of their services.
Your “huge” death numbers are of a piece with “the cases! the cases!” Almost literally every death in 2020-2021 was listed as a ‘Rona death. So as to create the impression there was a plague about, as opposed to a worse-than-usual flu.
A worse than usual flue season is just a CDC computer model estimate that barely affects all-cause mprtality of about three million people a year. The Covid epidemic boosted all-cause mortality +19% in one year, from 2019 to 2020. That os NOT a bad flue year.
You are as deluded on the Covid epidemic, and the HUGE increase of deaths in 2020, as you were about your prior false claim that vaccines prevent infections.
I’ll repeat my old comment:
The purpose of vaccines is to create antibodies that fight specific infections AFTER you get infected. If a vaccine works well, you will not even realize you were infected, and THEN your antibodies destroyed the germ.
Stick to cars.
Richard,
The only deluded person in this conversation is the one who continues to insist that drugs that neither prevent infection nor stop transmission are “vaccines.” A drug that “reduces symptoms” is a palliative. It is why there is a word for that – and another word for something else.
Few, if any, would have chosen to take the drugs pushed on them as “vaccines” if the pushers had said up front: Taking these drugs won’t prevent you from getting the infection or keep others from getting it (from you). But it may make you feel better and could lower the odds you’ll need medical intervention. In fact, the pushers would never have been able to push them on such a basis.
No prior vaccine was ever marketed on the same basis. Everyone knows this.
Well, almost everyone.
Covid vaccines were not marketed to the public by drug companies.
The government did that for them, for free, which is a disgrace.
Drug companies spend very little of their own money advertising vaccines, which were low margin, low profit products until the Covid vaccines. Drug companies do spend about for marketing, for every $1 spent on research and development.
Their marketing money is spent almost entirely to promote new, non-generic, high profit margin drugs, not vaccines.
Almost every vaccine does NOT prevent infections. Vaccines create bloodstream antibodies that fight infections AFTER the patient is infected.
This fact is from the first day of “vaccines 101”, but you must have been asleep in the classroom that day.
Richard writes – astoundingly:
“Drug companies spend very little of their own money advertising vaccines.”
You apparently do not watch much TV. Every third commercial is for a new “vaccine” or some other drug. The drug pushers own most of the media, having bought it with their advertising dollars.
You continue to peddle the quibble about vaccines. As I have explained ad infinitum, the common usage has always been synonymous with immunity and – much more relevant in the context at hand – with preventing transmission. The drugs we’re discussing did neither. At best, they may have reduced the severity of symptoms in some cases. But even as regards that it is damned hard to prove.
The point – which you continue to try to get around – is that the whole premise of the push to get people to take these drugs was that they would then be immunized – and could no longer get or transmit the virus. That was utter bullshit. Deliberate, malicious bullshit.
And you continue to oilily pretend otherwise. How much is Pfizer paying you to be an “influencer”?
“If you claim CDC all-cause mortality numbers are wrong, then you must provide an alternative dataset.” How about the life insurance claims data? Which show an extraordinary increase in payouts AFTER the vaccine was released?
The CDC, FDA, NIH are all nothing more nor less than the marketing branch of Pharma.
Your notion that government stats must be accepted if there is no conflicting data is absurd. Governments lie. It’s what they do for a living.
We’ve had doctors who said that this pandemic could have been ended quickly and countless Iives SAVED if doctors had just been allowed to use inexpensive drugs (such as Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin) that have been around for YEARS and have a good track record for safety. There have been numerous studies showing those drugs were an EFFECTIVE treatment for people sick with the
‘Rona, and doctors who still practiced medicine saved who knows how many lives by using those drugs. However, the government and many hospitals around the country effectively prohibited the use of such drugs via diktats, and even pharmacies wouldn’t fill prescriptions for those drugs due to diktats from local, state, or federal public health departments. Not only that, but from what I’ve read elsewhere, the heavy censoring of those drugs was done in order for the pharmaceutical industry and federal public health agencies to get “Emergency Use Authorization” for the COVID jabs, as the jabs wouldn’t have gotten EUA if there were already effective treatments out there such as those the media smeared as “Trump’s dangerous drug” (Hydroxychloroquine) or “Horse Dewormer” (Ivermectin).
The attack on Ivermectin was a disgrace — the medical profession severely tarnished their image by doing nothing of value for people who were infected … except telling them to check into a hospital if their Covid got worse.
“I have to disagree with you, Richard.”
RG
You don’t HAVE to !
RG
Apparently so, since she did.
By calling swamprat a “denier” you have immediately qualified him as an expert in the field.
The *all* cause mortality increase did not begin until after the vaccines were released.
The all-cause mortality increase started March 2020 and peaked in the first few months of the Covid epidemic.
Swamprat,
I think plenty of people died of COVID. Now, “How many?” is a different question. I think many may have succumbed to medical malpractice via the use of respirators, remdesivir and whatnot. But, we know that people die of the flu, and hell, even the common cold causes pneumonia and kills people. The ‘Rona most certainly did.
Just think of that experience you had. Now, if you were fat and weak, or had bad cardiovascular problems, mightn’t it have killed you?
Deaths are caused by accidents, homicides or major organ failures
Common colds very rarely lead to lung failure
Omicron is a common cold
Influenza rarely leads to lung failure
Covid19 leads to death 10x more often than influenza
Covid19 infection fatality rate about 0.5%
Influenza infection fatality rate about 0.05%
THAT’S A BIG DIFFERENCE
Richard,
The “science” – as it styles itself – says that Omicron is a variant of the ‘Rona. Not a “common cold.” That it produces symptoms comparable to the common cold in most people is beside the point.
Influenza in old/frail people leads quite often to pneumonia – and death.
Calling Omicron Covid was scaremongering.
The science with 32 spike protein mutations versus Alpha Covid, and cold like symptoms, says OMICRON IS NOT a new SARS-2 variant. It is a ew coronavirus common cold variant. That is the point.
The OMICRON infection fatality rate was the same as a coronavirus common cold and the immune system would clear it typically in a week or less, just like a common cold.
Influenza that leads tp pneumonis that is a frequent cause of death for Americans over age 75.
— About 16% of Americans are over age 75
– About 20% with severe pneumonia will die from it
There is no way a bad flu season, with the 16% and 20% numbers above, could explain a +19% increase of all-cause mortality in 2020 versus 2019. The Covid epidemic is the ONLY explanation.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6940a5.htm
If 20% of the 6%
Richard,
I’m just going by what they – the CDC, aka the “science” – said. What you say is beside the point.
I spend a lot of time trying to figure out what government data are honest and what government data are baloney. People who want the easy way out, with the least thinking, just assume everything the government says is correct, or everything the government says is wrong. Those broad assumptions are easy, and save time, but are not intelligent.
Richard,
A point comes when it is the apotheosis of intelligence to dismiss anything purveyed by liars. To simply not bother with them. You seem willing to dig for peanuts among the feces.
I am not.
Hi Eric,
I hope you feel better. Whenever I start feeling “blah” I resort to my three go-tos:
1. Licorice root (will keep the virus from replicating through the body) and makes sure the lungs stay clear. Morning
2. Turmeric (good for inflammation and body aches). Afternoon
3. Peppermint (good for headaches and stomach aches). Evening
Followed up by a lot of lemon water and chicken noodle soup…the good stuff not the canned shit. I am also a believer that semisweet/white chocolate chip macadamia nut cookies are also great for healing what ails you.
Agree. Chocolate chip cookies always make me feel better. Always. 🙂
I agree, Kurt. I think the world would be a better place if everyone ate one chocolate cookie a day.
I remember when I first started dating (around 15 or 16 years old) and I went out on my first date with a guy and we went out to the movies and a restaurant for the evening. At dinner the waitress brings the dessert menu and he waves it away. He then tells me he hates dessert. What!?!? That was our first and last date.
I went to a meeting in Denver yesterday. Specifically a meeting that took place in a “work-share space” in the RiNo Art District neighborhood down by Coors Field. Lots of scooters, a few bicycles, and more Teslas than in Aspen, at least in raw numbers. And masks. At least half a dozen just in the building. Not old ladies and their henpecked husbands (they probably don’t know this neighborhood exists), but Manbuns and purple hair freak girls too. Most of the more *ahem* fit millennial girls were barefaced, which was good to see on a fine spring day.
That said, this week the aspens are pollenating. I could probably use an N95 mask. This wet winter was good for the plants. But when they all dry out we’ll get more fire too.
Getting to be peak pollen season around here too, I have a coughing fit for a couple minutes when I first step outside each morning. Some mornings you have to brush it off the car it’s so thick.
Eric,
If you’d gone to a doctor, particularly one who’s part of a McMedical office, he’d have likely had you take a faulty COVID test AND asked if you’ve gotten the COVID “vaccine” (or a bivalent booster jab if one is already vaxxed) and entered a special code accordingly via diktats from the Biden regime and WHO. Governments around the world, including in the U.S. who implemented draconian COVID measures such as lockdowns and “social distancing” in 2020 engaged in a GIANT experiment on their citizens, and over time it became pretty obvious that this experiment was not only a MASSIVE failure, it DESTROYED countless lives. However, there are still people out there peddling the obvious falsehood that lockdowns and mask mandates “Saved lives”.
For quite a while we’ve been fed this narrative that the ‘Rona was some super deadly virus that REQUIRED every single human to be locked down & wear face diapers everywhere, and that the only cure was some brand new mRNA jab that required EVERY LAST HUMAN to take it. When it became obvious that the jabs were a failure, the jab pushers blamed it on the vaxx refusers.
Some good news for the Mask Sheriff
Commenting on last diaper report, I stated my wife was not required to wear a mask when visiting her doctor in early April. Yesterday my doctor’s office had a sign that masks were optional after April 3. So no mask for me, of course. It appears that mask wearing in Michigan is finally not required anywhere except for some times in a hospital, such as doctors doing surgery, WHICH MAKES SENSE, and patients with respiratory symptoms, which makes no sense.
The doctor I visited yesterday was still wearing a mask BUT some of the staff were not. I told my MASKED DOCTOR FIVE WEEKS AGO that I read five scientific mask studies in early 2020 and none said masks had any effect on respiratory aerosols. That debate ended after he admitted the 50 cent masks that his patients wore did nothing, but his own N95mask was useful. I was about to tell him all five studies I had read were of N95 masks — pre-Covid no one cared about 50 cent masks — but I decided to hold off on the argument. This doctor gives me an injection every five weeks, and I want him in a good mood before he does.
The mask issue is important not because I was forced to wear a mask at doctor’s offices for the past two years. It is important because it reveals how many people trust their government 100%. They never do independent thinking, which is easy with the internet.
They believe Trump colluded with Russians
They believe Covid vaccines are safe and effective
They believe global warming is a great danger
They believe Nut Zero will save the planet
They believe Ukraine is winning a war
And they believe masks will protect them
All the above beliefs are the false beliefs of people who let their government(s) do their thinking for them … which is the enemy of personal freedom.
They probably believe in the Easter Bunny too.
I should add that with some digging, you can find government data that CONTRADICT all those false claims I listed. They assume no one will fact check them, because the mass media does not. And they are usually right — few people have the time to fact check government / politician claims.