You have probably heard about Paul Stanley’s reasonable, rational “Thoughts on What I’m Seeing” – regarding the current evil fad of promoting the fungibility of sex, especially to children. Stanley is, of course, the lead singer of the famous rock band, KISS. He – and KISS – have been rich and famous since the mid-1970s.
He wrote, in part:
“There is a BIG difference between teaching acceptance and normalizing and even encouraging participation in a lifestyle that confuses young children into questioning their sexual identification as though some kind of game . . .” 
Laudable, because true. Because humane. Because it is evil to confuse young children about something they’re not yet capable of understanding fully or even partially. Stanley took a stand.
And then, he didn’t.
Within a day of posting his Thoughts, he posted new Thoughts, as follows:
“While my thoughts were clear, my words clearly were not. Most importantly and above all else, I support those struggling with their sexual identity while enduring constant hostility . . .”
Italics added.
“Constant hostility”? Well, yes – to this evil business of pushing “sexual identity” on anyone, especially kids. And it’s not even the sex, per se. It is the derangement and chaos it seeks to further, especially among the young who haven’t yet formed their identities. The latter being a process that (ideally) ends when one becomes an adult. At which point, it is up to the individual to decide what their “identity” will be. What Stanley objected to – correctly – is the hard-selling of “identities” to the impressionable and not-fully-formed by evil people.
Bravo. 
And then, not.
They must have the negatives. They must have something. It isn’t money – or fame. As the lead singer of one of the most successful rock bands ever – KISS – Paul Stanley is very famous. And very rich. He does not need the money. And even if KISS never played another gig, Paul Stanley will remain famous long after he dies, which might be any day now as he is in his 70s.
So, why?
What made Stanley do the step’n fetchit routine?
It is possible he’s craven. Many celebrities cannot bear to be unloved by the mob. Even if it’s just a relative handful of Woke hysterics. It is more likely than not that the people who like KISS – who buy KISS records and tickets to KISS concerts – are people who like what Stanley said.
And do not like what he subsequently said.
Of a piece with the embarrassing Dylan Mulvaney-Bud Lite business. People who drink Bud Lite do not like drinking from cans festooned with the image of a fey man pretending to be a “woman.” It disgusts and annoys them. But it is perhaps even more disgusting to them to see Bud Lite do the step’n fetchit routine, after sales of Bud Lite tanked on account of lots of people deciding not to buy beer from a company that festooned its cans with the image of a fey man pretending to be a “woman” that then engaged in a transparently frantic walk-back.
People understand that Bud Lite is purveyed by a company that is their enemy. They are not fooled by the suddenly macho counter-advertisements. Once you see, you cannot unsee.
And so it goes.
No one admires a pussy. Especially if it has (nominally) a dick.
People see that Stanley isn’t brave or principled. Or at least, that he isn’t brave enough to stand by his principles, if the mob is offended by them.
It is either that or it is something worse.
Is it possible they have something on him? Something that could result in much worse (for him) than annoying the Wokester mob – which doesn’t like KISS anyhow – and alienating the people who buy KISS records and tickets to see KISS in concert?
It would make sense, certainly. More sense than the explanation that Stanley is afraid of being seen as “mean” – and wants to be petted as politically correct. He’s a rich – and elderly – rock star who has very little to lose by speaking his mind and sticking to it.
At one time, rock stars were expected to buck orthodoxies rather than lick the boots of those who push them.
It’s inexplicable, unless there is another explanation. Of a piece with the “conservative” Supreme Court Chief Justice – who has a job for life and so no longer has to worry about losing his job – finding it “constitutional” to force Americans to pay money to private “health insurance” mafias.
Do they have the negatives?
They must have something.
If not, these people are nothings.
It’s hard to decide which is the worse.
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Replying to Mr. Liberty:
Mr. Liberty,
It’s been a damn long day, and I still have to finish work, but I took a little time out to try and answer your questions:
1. Virus transport medium is essentially a solution of 2% fetal bovine serum (FBS), a couple of antibiotics to ward off bacteria and fungi, and a buffered salt solution. FBS greatly facilitates cell-culture as cells don’t like living in a dish much. It contains a number of factors (hormones, sugars, etc) that feed and stimulate growth and division of cells. Viruses don’t need it, but when you inoculate the cells, you don’t want to dilute the solution in the culture plate. The buffered salt solution is necessary because viruses, although not actually living, are biological entities, and SARS-CoV-2 virions are basically protein impregnated membranes containing RNA. If you just put them in deionized water, for example, they’ll all be destroyed before too long. They are best preserved in something somewhat simulating physiological conditions (pH and salinity).
2. Centrifugation, as it says, is one way to remove cellular debris and effectively isolate viruses from the “snot” you speak of. Cellular debris, such as whole cells, large proteins, nucleic acids and so forth, as well as any bacteria present, can be removed from solution by centrifuging at an optimal speed for an optimal time. The garbage comes out as a pellet, and the fluid in the tube is the “supernatant” containing the virus. Likewise, a higher speed
may be used to remove the virus from solution, leaving lighter molecules, such as cellular RNA, etc. behind. The pellet of virus can be re-suspended, and “washed” multiple times in this way.
I’ve also used syringe microfiltration (0.2 micron), but this is more of a pain in the ass, and doesn’t remove smaller material.
3. They we’re overly brief about this, and just threw out some references concerning their cell culture of these human airway cells. Long story short, it’s actually a pretty cool system, and approximates the epithelia of your brochial tubes better than other methods.
The cells differentiate and even produce mucus. Though they should’ve expressedly stated so, they’re likely washing with phosphate-buffered saline (PBS) to remove any protective layer of mucus and make the cells more susceptable to inoculation. They actually use PBS because it’s less irritating than, say, DI water.
Again, you have to have a buffer solution of specific salinity and pH. Due to osmosis, too much salt and the cells may dessicate. Too little and they may explode.
4. “There’s no description or detail regarding the alleged cytopathic effects.” You’re right. Part of this lack of comprehensiveness can be attributed to this being a “Brief Report”, with the ostensible purpose of getting the paperout quickly because they think it is important to do so. This paper was a “quick and dirty”. But it’s also some lousy work, no doubt. They should’ve been more descriptive as well include much better microscopy as supporting evidence. There are many more deliberately released papers that do just that, and usually used virus propagated by Vero cells, which didn’t quite fit your criteria.
5. Well, part of that centrifugation, as previously mentioned, is the removal of most of that confounding material. That done, they used a commercial kit to lyse the virus and purify further the RNA. If done well, the only likely thing that might cause you problems
is there are more than one type of virus of similar size. Now, where to begin with sequencing?..
The Oxford Nanopore system is really a game changer. It’s inexpensive and can sequence long reads (pieces of RNA or DNA), but is not quite as accurate as other methods. (Though it is improving.) It can read a whole viral genome without the RNA being cut into pieces.
Illumina instruments are very accurate, but use smaller reads, and they’re expensive. Here is where your computer algorithm (CLC Genomics software) comes in handy. Calling it “intuition” would be short-selling it, however. And using these methods together would remedy the shortcomings of both (save for the expense of the Illumina system).
Again, they were brief and could’ve been more descriptive here, but if it were me, I would’ve sequenced a small amount of the purified RNA using Oxford, checked the results for long reads indicating viral genomes, and made a PCR primer from that to make and amplify cDNA from the viral RNA to be sequenced on the Illumina.
“Characterization” in this case, means comparing the features of this genome to those that are known to find similarities and known genes, and attempt to elucidate phylogeny,
i.e. make a family tree.
6. “Cancerous cells?” From what I understand, these cells come from biopsies, but aren’t cancerous.
7. I really don’t know how useful Koch’s postulates are in this case, or many others, as there are so many exceptions and caveats to them in their original form.
There are, however “Molecular Koch’s Postulates”. Perhaps they mean this? One big problem with the original set is inoculating a human host with a virus that is suspected to be killing people. Also, viruses can’t be propagated in “pure culture”.
8. Control group: You mention the mock-infected cells later. That’s your control group. You have the same cellular culture in those plates, and add the viral transport solution without the viral isolate. And yes, again, they should’ve mentioned that the mock cells were unaffected, but they really only gave us the shitty micrographs. They probably figured it was implied. Again, a shortcoming, though.
Alright, time to finish up work and get to sleep. Enjoy!
Adding in “a couple of antibiotics to ward off bacteria and fungi” assumes that the cause of the pneumonia is neither bacteria nor fungi. Why make this assumption from the get go? Also, the antibiotic/antifungals can have a deleterious effect on human cells (i.e. cytopathic effects).
The genome sequencing is just an algorithmic computer guess as to what the missing RNA is. It’s computer tea leaf reading. Your explanation of “characterization” is further evidence of this. The use of the word is a fancy way of saying “made up.” Also, I still don’t know what material in the now-centrifuged slurry was sequenced. The don’t say. They just just took a pipette, removed some “supernatant,” applied the computer algorithm to it and said “Well, looky here. We’ve got your virus right here, folks.” When you ask to see the virus, they then show you it “in silico,” which is an alleged RNA sequence what the computer algorithm spit out (intuited, characterized, made up, etc.).
How do we know that only “confounding material” was removed through centrifugation? What if what was removed caused the observed cytopathic effects?
It is important enough for them to identify that the cells are from cancer patients. Yet they do not say they are non-cancerous cells. The only reasonable assumption here is that the cells are cancerous.
Why do you need a “virus transport medium?” There’s no such thing used when it’s allegedly spread via the atmosphere and surfaces? We’ve been told this is an incredibly contagious virus.
“There’s no description or detail regarding the alleged cytopathic effects.” You’re right. Part of this lack of comprehensiveness can be attributed to this being a “Brief Report” This is the most important part of the study though! The fact that they just mentioned it without any detail sets my BS off.
That was not a description of a control group. I want a detailed description that the control petri dishes followed the same exact procedures, but sans the snot. That’s not what they described, and we don’t even know if the “mock infected cells” showed “cytopathic effects.” Because they did not indicate otherwise, I can only assume there were in fact cytopathic effects. If there were no cytopathic effects, I assure you they would have made a big deal of it.
This study is just garbage. I truly appreciate the vigorous back and forth with you, but you may be too close to the clinical biology world to see things with the critical eye of a skeptic.
I have analyzed many papers attempting to prove the existence of this “virus” as well as others and they seem to all follow the same trend of adding things, not actually isolating the “virus” (i.e. separating the alleged virus itself from all other matter), using algorithms, etc. I always feel like I’m observing the sleight of hand of a magician. There’s always an excuse like “we had to cut corners because it was so urgent to get the results out to save humanity.”
I would add that what these occult practitioners are doing is not magic, it’s sorcery. Algorithms, machine learning, all of it. “Reality” creation. For all the tough talk, most people would rather give away their personal power and trust rather than verify, even when it comes to their tormentors. Would rather grasp at red herrings like lab leaks or gain of function or anti-parasitical cures than accept that the nature of illness has not fundamentally changed one bit and that the underlying premise of the past 3 years was a fraud from the get-go. Having been so successful convincing people of the one virus reality, the tormentors have now moved on to the next created reality, the tranny freak show, including child grooming, indoctrination, and mutilation known as “care” also courtesy of “science.” More fakery passed off as real, to be believed “whatever your reason” or to be labeled a “denier” or worse. What a world.
It takes a lot of time, focus and energy to verify and refute claims. In a world of evil lies, searching for the truth can be exhausting. Just look at the time you, BaDnOn and I have spent on this crappy paper purporting to show the existence of “covid.” Most people can’t seem to focus their minds enough to think for themselves. It’s much easier to just keep your brain on at a 50% level and outsource the thinking to others.
That said, I find this kind of good-faith argument to be quite enjoyable. It keeps the mind sharp.
I wasn’t speaking directly of Badnon or any other commenters here, but when I said tormentors, I meant it. The damage and destruction wrought by The Science and gov’t at all levels joining at the hip in some tyrannical circle jerk via this one virus ass clownery should never be given a pass or the benefit of the doubt. To do so is to participate in a type of self-decimation.
Mr. Liberty,
I agree!
I’m quite busy today, but I’ll try to get to some of your other questions, but yes, this type of back-and-forth can be quite beneficial.
I think you’d actually make a great addition to any peer-review board, Mister! You’d serve well as the representative of the skeptical yet intelligent layman that is often missing. There is a disconnect, and I’d say more like a canyon, between scientific investigators and the public, and it’s expanding. Techniques, methods and knowledge are becoming ever more arcane, and many scientists are taking the elitist road, rather than doing what I think is their duty, and acting as good and amicable ambassadors, teachers, translators or communicators.
This scientific opacity leads to The Science(tm), suspicion and distrust, as well as the opportunistic parasites who act as priests and attempt use science as a tool for control and the acquisition of power, as mentioned by Dr. Spidock, here.
Again, when I have time, I’ll try and give you my 2 cents on your questions.
I think I might have to start posting topics on the Forum, so as to try and educate on some scientific concepts and methods, and likely get schooled myself here and there. With my upcoming lab, I’d certainly like to launch investigations that others just won’t do…
In time!
“Would rather grasp at red herrings like lab leaks or gain of function or anti-parasitical cures than accept that the nature of illness has not fundamentally changed one bit and that the underlying premise of the past 3 years was a fraud from the get-go.” -Funk Doctor Spidock
Yes. I’m of the opinion that the lab leak – gain of function “admission” is merely what’s known as a “limited hangout,” which tricks people into thinking that it’s an embarrassing admission so it must be true. Of course, the purpose of this “admission” is to further cement the underlying premise that the “pandemic” was real and it was caused by “covid.” This has fooled many into becoming true covid believers, which is consistent with Mark Twain’s line that “It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.”
Mr. Liberty,
I’m still very busy, but briefly…
You speak of sequencing like it is the Zoltar machine from the movie “Big”. That’s just not accurate. I feel that there is a lot I have to explain about molecular biology, sequencing and bioinformatics, and I don’t have the time right now. PCR and today’s high thoughput sequencing are actually pretty useful tools for sussing out new and known microbes, if used correctly.
Also, I’m also burning my time explaining a paper that, in many ways, should’ve done better explaining itself. There is no doubt about that.
When I have the time, like I said, I’m going to start posting to the Forum. That way it’s more permanent and searchable. Right now, I hardly have time to get my EP Autos fix. 😉
What do LBGTQ, trannies, gays, gender change, teaching grade schoolers to masturbate, snipping, cervical vaxx, birth control, abortion, abortion pills, assisted suicide, Covid death jab, masks, 6′ of separation, all have in common?
The goal is to stop reproduction – the elites do not want us to breed. You can not breed if you are dead or if you are 6′ apart, and 6′ is how deep your bury the body. It should be clear that the 6′ number and the death jab means they want you dead and buried.
You also can not breed if you do not know who to breed with.
Few people have figured out the real purpose of the mask – it is not just control – it is to stop a male from getting cues of female mating readiness from her lips. Humans are walking erect primates – we get visual cues for sex – that is why woman’s lipstick is red as it is a proxy for the primate labia in heat. Don’t believe me, go look it up. A woman primary way to advertise her readiness to mate with her very red lips – which is why her lower part of her face is covered up.
So if a male transgender wears red lipstick – it intentionally confuses the primary mating signal. You can not breed if your dick is cut off. You can not breed if your tubes are tied. You can not breed if you are a girl who was enticed with the cervical cancer vaxx – 100% of those victims were rendered infertile – and with the covid vaxx the same. Did you notice the covid vaxx played havoc with a woman’s menstrual cycle?
Notice how abortion is being pushed onto children below 18 with parental consent. Gays and lesbians are promoted – because they do not reproduce. Christian heterosexuals are attacked because they do.
Have you noticed so many youth eating crap food, get 30 vaxxes before 20, watching TV all day, take welfare and not work, and become a slug, with uncombed hair and sloppy appearance? They can not breed, boner pills are the rage, because testosterone is so low men can not get it up. The US Army says half of the draftable population is unfit for military service – so notice they will send the virile youth to their deaths and the unbreedable slugs will be the survivors.
It is all about one thing – they want us terminated. The billionaires no longer need the worker slaves, soon they will have Ai and robots. Thus the WEF says they want an 86% reduction in population, like 86ed, get it?
Correction – should be: “abortion is being pushed onto children below 18 withOUT parental consent.”
Have you seen that biology show why humans kiss? The female measures the male’s genetics – to maximize the chances of her offspring success. During Covid – the goyim were told not to kiss.
Have you heard about the collegiate sweaty t-shirt study? The females smell the t-shirts of all the males, the one that smells best to her has the best genes for her offspring. With the mask, the female can not smell the man and determine his genetics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claus_Wedekind
MMR, measles, mumps, rubella
All people want to perfect human specimens, unfortunately, that doesn’t happen.
Mumps is a virus that swells the salivary glands. Causes a fever, swollen testicles in males, you’re going to be sick, no appetite.
Not a bacterium, bacteria have cell structure, a nucleus, cholera will be a pain.
You want to have the mumps at a young age or be vaccinated.
If you contract mumps when a mature adult, your chances of becoming sterile are greatly increased.
You don’t want to take any chances.
Medical science is out there, at the moment, it is waning, not waxing.
There are some truly despicable (if not evil) people who just will not give up this obsession with “vaccinating” EVERY LAST HUMAN on the planet, Chelsea Clinton being one of them.
She says it’s time to FORCIBLY jab every unvaxxed American child…
https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/chelsea-clinton-its-time-to-force-jab-every-unvaccinated-child-in-america/
Anyone remember all the hullabaloo over female circumcision a couple years back? Hear anything about it now? Remember It was called child mutilation? Oh, we cared soooo much!
Well, they don’t have nuttin on the good ole US of A where today it’s called Gender Therapy.
My My,,, how things change when tons of money is involved with the so called surgeries and drugs.
Disgusting…
Ken,
They also call it “Gender affirming care”.
Meanwhile, the snipping of baby boy body parts continues unabated.
Conservatives only care about things like this when women/girls are negatively affected. When it’s men/boys, no one gives a shit. Red states pass laws banning genital mutilation for sex changes, but for “health” reasons, for boys, still ok. I’m sure those pushing the trans will work on solidifying tranification “gender affirming care” as a “right” one chooses to exercise with the consultation of a “qualifying physician”, much like a woman’s “right to choose” to kill a baby is ok.
Being against the establishment was fake from the get go. Read the Dave McGowan classic.
https://centerforaninformedamerica.com/inside-the-lc-the-strange-but-mostly-true-story-of-laurel-canyon-and-the-birth-of-the-hippie-generation-part-i/
That was supposed to be a reply to John B
I read that a few years ago. If “mostly” true it certainly explains a lot. Like why most of these rock stars never got busted for pot…and a whole lot more.
When McKenzie Phillips wrote about her dad raping her she was roundly shunned as a loon. Stanley probably bagged more than his share of “under-age” chicks to the point Epstein was envious.
Abigail Shrier has good insights and analysis on the trans movement. She authored the book Irreversible Damage.
Abigail has many Youtube videos.
https://www.abigailshrier.com/
On the topic of biology:
To those who’ve never seen an electron micrograph of a virus or SARS-CoV-2, here you go:
https://microbenotes.com/electron-microscopy-images-of-sars-cov-2/
Including “Transmission electron micrograph of SARS-CoV-2 virus particles, isolated from a patient. Image captured and color-enhanced at the NIAID Integrated Research Facility (IRF) in Fort Detrick, Maryland. Credit: NIAID.”
Isolated from a patient. I’ll seek the original source when I have time, but in the meantime, you can stick that up Jon Rappoport’s ass.
Of course, I’ll get the “that’s just a computer-generated image of the light from Venus reflecting off swamp-gas” arguments, but I don’t care.
I don’t care anymore.
Also, Bud Light sucks no matter what they do with their ad campaigns.
Yeah, Fort Detrick. Nothing weird or off about that gold standard for elite US Government labs. I’m sure you could walk right in there and observe all the “science” going on.
From Wikipedia:
During an inspection by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) of the United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) BSL-3 and BSL-4 laboratories at Ft Detrick in June 2019 six violations including two breaches of containment were identified. The inspection was followed up by a letter of concern from the CDC on July 12, 2019 and then a cease and desist order on July 15, 2019.[39]
Following the cease and desist order from the CDC the USAMRIID laboratories at the base were shut down in August 2019. The announcement to resume operations on a “limited scale” was made on November 25, 2019.
The CDC cited “national security reasons” as the reason for not informing the public about its decision.[5] The two breaches reported to the CDC by USAMRIID staff demonstrated failures of biosafety level 3 and 4 protocols in the Army laboratory to “implement and maintain containment procedures sufficient to contain select agents or toxins”.[39]
After approximately eight months of closure and restrictions, the USAMRIID BSL-4 lab had been authorized to resume full operational status by April 2020, to the applause of Maryland lawmakers including Senator Ben Cardin, who stated “it is a relief to have USAMRIID fully operational with the current COVID-19 outbreak”‘.[4
“Isolated from a patient. I’ll seek the original source when I have time”
You are trying SO hard to cling to your perceived bit of reality you’ve been trained to obey.
A false one.
Keep trying, maybe, someday, you’ll get to truth?
https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/new-cdc-target-the-healthy-sick/
Wake The fuck Up. …Sucker.
215 institutions (mainly health and science institutions) in 40 countries have all failed to provide or cite even 1 record describing the alleged “SARS-COV-2” having been found in any sick human and purified, in order to sequence and characterize “it” and study “it” with controlled experiments.
In other words, none of these institutions can prove that the alleged RNA genome of 30,000 base pairs with a spikey protein shell actually exists…. let alone that “it” causes an allegedly new respiratory disease that is allegedly spread from host to host via contagion.
No one on the planet has a pure sample of the alleged virus.
There are no validated tests. Validation of a test for a “virus” would require a gold standard – the alleged virus.
Below is a list of the institutions. Note that from several of these institutions (i.e. the CDC, Public Health England, UK DHSC, India’s ICMR) we have multiple responses.
https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/68-health-science-institutions-globally-all-failed-to-cite-even-1-record-of-sars-cov-2-purification-by-anyone-anywhere-ever/
If these pics are as stated then a purified and sequenced SARS 2 virus should be no problem…
Helot,
Thank you for the fond advice.
You know, I have reviewed what you’ve posted in the Forum, including the interesting paper entitled “Are Viruses Real?”. Particularly, I found fascinating the claim of “Pleomorphism”, in which “somatids”, which are indestructible biological particles of some kind, morph into spores, then into bacteria, then yeast and finally become fungi. That’s outright miraculous. I’ve so far failed to find any scientific literature supporting this claim, however.
I did find this:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-10479-8
Essentially, they found similar structures as “somatids”, “pleomorphic bacteria-like forms” and “myelinic forms”, but also found that they were essentially vesicles created by red blood cells and protein aggregates.
I do like exploring new ideas, so don’t misunderstand me and think I’m closed-minded. Extraordinary claims, however, require extraordinary evidence, as Sagan once said.
Yup. You showed us. Those illustrations show that this alleged particle is a novel virus as of 2019, is passed on through the atmosphere, latches on to human cells, replicates itself and then creates some sort of cytopathic effect on those human cells resulting in a flu-like disease [sarc].
BaDnOn, you are a BELIEVER. All it takes to suspend your critical analysis is to show you a fancy computer generated graphic. That’s all the proof you need. Move on everybody. Nothin’ left to see here.
This reminds me of the claim that two blocks from the twin towers they found Mohamed Atta’s passport, which of course, proves that he was flying the plane. I mean, how else would his passport have gotten there? Duh?
Mr. Liberty,
I’m having trouble who’s asking for what, but either you or the Funk Doctor here were asking for an actual photo of the virus rather than the computer model of the “spiky ball”. That’s what you have here.
There are many reasons why I believe that SARS-CoV-2 is a real virus, and that viruses exist in general. Both this and many, many other viruses have been thoroughly characterized and the mechanisms by which they infect cells have been investigated and defined. It would take much more faith to believe that all of the data and evidence produced in labs worldwide was all just a bunch of fabricated poppycock and biologists have gotten everything wrong for the past 120 years.
I’m not asking for any follow up. I do think you are purposely conflating generalities with the specific issue at hand by going with the “you think everything’s fake” smear. The burden of proof of the existence of coofy-doof-19, the reason for everything that followed, is on you. Personally, I don’t find internet cartoons from the US Gov’t’s science wet works division compelling in this regard, but, as you mentioned, you know that already.
I used to have a great deal of respect for science, though perhaps less so for medicine due to an event in my teenage years where doctors actually told me “we don’t know what’s wrong with you so can’t help you.” Years later, it was somewhat resolved with some carpentry (surgery) but remains a mild chronic issue to this day. I lost all respect for these “professions” when they joined forces with the gov’t and embraced coercion and cultism under the rubric of “believe against your own experience and knowledge and what your eyes see, or be the enemy to be harassed and persecuted.”
I had (emphasis on had) a childhood friend who I imagine to be a lot like you. Worked his way through school, earned a Phd in oceanography and went on to teach at Princeton and Scripps Institute, among other prestigious assignments. Unlike you, he was always predisposed to a sort of latent leftism. It was never an issue until 2020. The last time I contacted him was to express my outrage at how a lone paddle boarder was arrested in the ocean in San Diego due to warnings from a prominent colleague of his at Scripps that was pushing the preposterous (and quickly debunked) claim that being at the beach or in the ocean could subject a person to the roof via salt spray. He circled the wagons, I guess, because I never heard from him again.
I looked the guy up on his social media a few months ago. Still masking, still talking up his “up to date” bootsahs, full on climate change alarmism, even something about supporting Keeeeeev. He seethes with a hatred of “deniers.” His world, as portrayed on social media at least, is a cult. I can’t help but think he would say or do anything to protect his cult and its members, but, most of all, his status and station, including the grant monies from gov’ts and corps. And this guy only lives in a 2 bedroom rental in La Jolla. I can only imagine what someone like that, higher up in the food chain even, would do or say for G4 money or more.
Based on what I’ve observed in many previous non-“covid” posts, I do think BaDnOn is arguing in good faith here. I just think the argument lacks sufficient evidence and critical anaylysis.
With that said, I do agree that placing the burden of proving the non-existence of a claimed “novel virus” is entirely unreasonable. The burden of proof is on the one asserting its existence and it having the asserted effects.
There are certain methods for proving the existence of a pathogen: Koch’s Postulate and River’s (less rigorous than Koch). I’m not sure I accept either because there are some flaws in them. However, they never even followed these methods for “covid.” They also never used a control group experiment (same experiments but minus the presence of the alleged virus) to compare results. This, in and of itself, is totally disqualifying.
At a bare minimum, I would like to see a simple experiment where they take snot from a sick patient, isolate the alleged virus (i.e. separate it from all other matter in that snot. Take that now isolated virus and introduce it to healthy HUMAN cells to see if the cause a cytopathic effect on this cells. There also needs to be a petri dish with those same cells and under the same conditions without the presence of the alleged virus so the cytopathic effects (if any) can be compared. This would be just the beginning of proof, but a good start. To my knowledge, this has NEVER been done. EVER.
I’m not a non-believer. If there is rigorous proof of its existence, I would accept it, but that has not happened yet, despite billions of dollars “invested.”
Hey Mr. Liberty,
Like I told Dr. Spidock below, I’d be happy to do the requested study.
However, something that approximately fits your requirements might be this paper from January 2020:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7092803/
Note: “Bronchoalveolar-lavage fluid samples were collected in sterile cups to which virus transport medium was added. Samples were then centrifuged to remove cellular debris. The supernatant was inoculated on human airway epithelial cells”
So, isolation of the virus and infection of human cells….
Also: “To determine whether virus particles could be visualized in 2019-nCoV–infected human airway epithelial cells, mock-infected and 2019-nCoV–infected human airway epithelial cultures were examined with light microscopy daily and with transmission electron microscopy 6 days after inoculation. Cytopathic effects were observed 96 hours after inoculation on surface layers of human airway epithelial cells; a lack of cilium beating was seen with light microcopy in the center of the focus (Figure 2). No specific cytopathic effects were observed in the Vero E6 and Huh-7 cell lines until 6 days after inoculation.”
You will note, and I completely agree, that Figure 2 is some really shitty light microscopy. But, you do have human cells infected with what would be SARS-CoV-2, and mock-infected cells, which are your control group.
I’ll be pretty busy today, but I’ll check around to see I can find some papers replicating this study.
Ahem. You previously said “viruses aren’t only studied, manipulated and used for research in China.” This particular one was, apparently. Funny, that, huh? FWIW, this isn’t new information to me or hopefully anyone on here and exhibits all of the red flags previously mentioned.
Alright, Funk Doc, though Mr. Liberty asked for a specific experimental protocol, predicating it with “To my knowledge, this has NEVER been done. EVER.”.
Also, Ken above quoted a site where they claim “40 countries have all failed to provide or cite even 1 record describing the alleged ‘SARS-COV-2’ having been found in any sick human and purified, in order to sequence and characterize ‘it’ and study ‘it’ with controlled experiments.”
I provided an “official” example, even if it is from what you might consider a dubious source.
Now, SARS-CoV-2 research WAS done worldwide, but they did usually use Vero cells culture to replicate virus. You don’t need a lot of patient sample (nasal swab) with this method, and the cells work well for this purpose, making it simply easier and more efficient.
Now that we’ve moved from generalities to specifics, what do you think your chances are of walking off the street to check on the veracity of the goings on in that Chinese lab cited in the paper you linked, which is operated by the Chinese CDC?
Dr. Spidock,
None. I’m not going to China. That wouldn’t stop me from replicating their efforts, however, save for bronchoalveolar lavage samples. Instead, I’d likely have a friend (or myself), sick with the purported ‘Rona, spitting in a cup or the like.
BaDnOn:
There are numerous problems with the NEMJ study you cite. It would take at least a multi-paged paper to adequately discuss these, but here’s a brief summary of my quick review:
1. Added to the snot was “virus transport medium.” Why was this necessary? The idea is to try to isolate the alleged virus, not add things to it. There’s no description of the contents of this medium. What was in it? Could this medium have caused what appeared to be cytopathic effects?
2. Why was centrifuging necessary?
3. Why did they wash the cells to be inoculated with phosphate-buffered saline? This is known to cause tissue irritation.
4. “The cells were monitored daily with light microscopy, for cytopathic effects. . .” (definitionally: “structural changes in host cells that are caused by viral invasion”). There’s no description or detail regarding the alleged cytopathic effects. None. Cytopathic effects is literally defined as meaning a viral invasion. But how do we know that there were cytopathic effect (i.e. viral invasion) other than to take their word for it. This is not science. This is an announcement of a subjective observation.
5. “RNA extracted from bronchoalveolar-lavage fluid and culture supernatants was used as a template to clone and sequence the genome.” How do they know what was extracted from bronchoalveolar-lavage fluid was the isolated virus itself. They extracted a combination of snot, medium, cells, etc. What part of this slurry was sequenced? The whole thing? Nope. They admit that it was sequenced by taking an RNA fragment (of some part that was assumed to be the virus) and then using a software algorithm to intuit the remainder of the genome: “We used a combination of ILLUMINA sequencing and NANOPOR sequencing to characterize the virus genome.” I like the word “characterize” here. It reminds me of the spikey-ball caricature we’ve gotten used to seeing.
6. The inoculated cells were from taken from patients lungs that had cancer. Why use cancerous cells?
7. The study fully admits it “does not fulfill Koch’s postulates.”
8. The most disqualifying factor though is that they did not have a control group of petri dishes with everything in them except the “isolated virus” or even except the snot itself. Without this control group you can’t verify the study’s conclusion by comparing the snot CPE to the non-snot CPE (if any). No control group = non-science.
Oh, I left out that nowhere in the article did I find any statement that the “mock-infected cells” did not show cytopathic effects. In fact, one could infer the the cytopathic effects were also observed in the “mock-infected cells” as well: “To determine whether virus particles could be visualized in 2019-nCoV–infected human airway epithelial cells, mock-infected AND 2019-nCoV–infected human airway epithelial cultures were examined with light microscopy daily and with transmission electron microscopy 6 days after inoculation. Cytopathic effects were observed 96 hours after inoculation on surface layers of human airway epithelial cells. . .”
Well done, sir. These things stuck out to me like burning coals but, frankly, I didn’t have the time or energy to do what you did.
Even if one were to take this Chinese CDC paper at face value, one thing that caught my eye was the story of the patients who each had pneumonia and how, at the end, they say the illness likely to have been caused by this CoV was named “novel coronavirus-infected pneumonia” (NCIP).
Imagine if that’s what they said. Some folks got a new strain of pneumonia. Someone died from pneumonia. It’s all the turn of the phrase.
Okay, Mr. Liberty, I’m going to put my reply at the top of the page so it’s more easily read…
Hey Dr. Spidock,
” I do think you are purposely conflating generalities with the specific issue at hand by going with the “you think everything’s fake” smear.”
Conflating, yes. Purposefully, no. I think I’ve got it, now, that it’s Mr. Liberty and Helot that don’t believe in viruses at all, while you simply don’t believe in the “Coofy-doof”.
I think we have something in common in being highly disappointed in medicine, at times. I was sick for about a year-and-a-half back when I was getting my Master’s, which made things incredibly difficult. Doctors were stumped and some of the meds they prescribed to treat my symptoms just made things much worse.
So, yes, highly disappointed. My current doctor, a naturopath, has been MUCH better as a healer than any before.
And I, of course, agree that some absolutely absurd and deleterious policies were implemented to “stop the spread”. Most of which were not based on any science at all, but simply the whims of bureaucrats. Also, the response had been war-gamed, and hence the “plandemic”.
All of this has made obvious the difference between science and The Science. The former is a process used to elucidate the truth, and the latter is dogma, used as a tool of control by demagogues. Also, The Science is marked by expressions of “trust” and “faith”, which have little part in science. Skepticism and suspicion are healthy in actual science, but discouraged by The Science.
Sorry about your former friend. Yes, bad scientists will compromise all principles for a paycheck. I would’ve never survived in such an environment, and I think I always knew it. It doesn’t mean I think everything that is being done in a gov’t lab is a lie, however, but it is good to look upon them with suspicion. I can agree with that. But that’s the great thing about science. All claims can be tested, and all studies SHOULD be able to be replicated.
Thus, if my lab is well enough equipped in the future, and I run across a case of the “coofy-doof”, I’ll do my best to isolate and characterize the virus, and explain the process and findings in plain English.
“. . .it’s Mr. Liberty and Helot that don’t believe in viruses at all. . .” -BaDnOn
Nope. I neither believe nor not believe in viruses. I just have not seen scientific evidence of their existence yet. My beliefs are entirely irrelevant as to whether viruses exist or not.
Mr. Liberty,
Got it!
Mister Liberty, mostly my thoughts as well.
‘They’ – the so-called, scientific community & the p.o.s. big pharma complex have lied & misled etc.
‘They’ deserve zero, benefit of the doubt.
In fact, because they lie, everything else they say or publish should be presumed to also be a lie,… until proven otherwise.
“It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of The New England Journal of Medicine.” (Dr. Marcia Angell, NY Review of Books, January 15, 2009, “Drug Companies & Doctors: A Story of Corruption”)
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2021/10/06/medical-weapons-and-fake-data-sets-how-destruction-multiplies/
How is the above fraudulent, BaDnOn?
Hey Helot,
I didn’t say I trust drug companies and their puppet doctors. Far from it. And like I’ve said, I know there are charlatans in science and it’s most a pity. Luckily, however, the methods, experiments and conclusions in any paper can be questioned, and people can always attempt to replicate them. This gives fraudulence a limited lifespan.
You happen to remember this paper, decrying the use of hydroxychloroquine for use against COVID?:
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/lancet-retracts-large-study-hydroxychloroquine-n1225091
Exactly. “You can run on for a long time…”.
The only thing surprising about the colorized pic of the virus is that they didn’t make it blue and yellow to support Ukraine.
One thing that really gripes me about these people is the constant “pride” parades. They’re proud that they are deviants……really!?
I don’t care what your proclivities are, nor how you “identify”, but keep it out of my face and don’t try to pretend that it’s normal.
To quote a 5 year old from the movie ‘Kindergarten Cop’: “boys have a penis, girls have a vagina”. Period.
They shove it in our faces because of their need to promote their lifestyle. Being that they constitute not more than 1% or 2% of the population, there is a constant urge to increase their numbers because, let’s face it, finding partners for their perversion is like finding the proverbial needle in a haystack. But if they can get into the schools and indoctrinate impressionable youth into the “lifestyle,” they can boost their membership, making things easier for them.
Just one of the reasons I turned off the TV/radio decades ago. The fact that they would give a stage to weirdos like Stanley (real name: Stanley Bert Eisen); how they use these ‘actors’ as examples of how one is expected to bow and scrape before the Thought Police; and how they use these things to polarize opinions and foment a Hegelian dialectic, (and much more)- It’s all just mind control, and if one watches/listens to it, even if they understand it’s tactics, it will still affect them.
Mass media is the primary tool which has been used to destroy society and to propagate an alternate worldwide value system for slaves, who are now rendered harmless and useless, paving the way for a “New World Order” with all of it’s uber-tyrannies and evils (To think:” BILLIONS of people worldwide have taken the clot-shot already!).
Civil traditional society and all of it’s institutions have been so easily and quickly destroyed (Many still exist, but in name only)…..largely not by something imposed on it’s people by nukular destruction, war, armies, etc. but by something which can be rendered harmless merely by turning a knob to the “off” position.
This is for chief justice John Roberts and his decision to stay relevant in the DC cocktail party circuit:
“In whatever arena of life one may meet the challenge of his conscience — the loss of his friends, his fortune, his contentment, even the esteem of his fellow men — each man must decide for himself the course he will follow. The stories of past courage can define that ingredient — they can teach, they can offer hope, they can provide inspiration. But they cannot supply courage itself. For this each man must look into his own soul.”
— John F. Kennedy in Profiles in Courage
As for Paul Stanley:
Most people would rather be in the majority, than be right.
There’s way too much celebrity worship going on in this country. Being that ANY such is too much. A coincidence of musical or theatrical talent and admirable moral character is extremely rare, and usually runs quite the contrary. I never liked KISS. The first and last time I paid them any attention it was obvious that they were all show and no go. Alice Cooper did it much better, having the show and at least some go. Bottom line is, they are all into sales. Just like the Psychopaths In Charge. The difference between a very good musician, which I have played with a number of times, and a “successful” musician is salesmanship. In fact, with proper salesmanship, one need not be a very good musician at all. Likewise actors.
Why is Paul Stanley even given a stage for his commentary, regardless which side of the fence he may sit on. After all, in this instance he sits on BOTH sides. He is obviously in sales mode.
I vote for kompromat. Globo-Homo has been at this for a long time. That less than 5% of the population is so bound and determined to force this unnatural narrative down 95% of the populations throats, says something. Its a hill they think they are willing to die on. Maybe so they can cry victim and call in help from the rest of the world, IDK. That type of behavior, (crying out in pain as they strike you) is typically a trait of unhinged and unbalanced females, for whatever thats worth.
Seems strange how nearly everyone with any influence on tee vee takes this position. Then they change the argument, that being, we must stop the constant bullying of these poor put upon peoples. Well last I checked nobody gave a fat shit what these degenerates did, until they started doing it to children.
The other loathsome thing they prattle on about is banning books. Those of us with common sense know the difference between banning something, versus restricting things, based on age appropriate material. Why thats so hard for Boobus Merkinus to understand completely escapes me.
God doesn’t make mistakes, and even if he did and these womb goofs actually exist in nature, I’d guess there is no more than a dozen of them walking the earth at one time. And they certainly aren’t out there flying their freak flag in everyones face.
Good for you Eric, for taking a strong stand in defense of children
“Well last I checked nobody gave a fat shit what these degenerates did, until they started doing it to children.”
Exactly. After all, we have age restrictions on alcohol consumption don’t we? I think this may be just a bit more serious.
Perhaps this relates to my comment above about celebrity worship to some degree. Transgenderism has become a fad, and great accolades and praise are given to those who engage in it. What adolescent would NOT want to get in on that, well before they are capable of rational decision? We don’t let them engage in contracts, for the same reason.
Exactly John,
Age restrictions to own a weapon, use drugs/alcohol, vote (har har), hold a job, Go to war, drive an automobile, open a bank account, sign a contract, But performing an elective surgery based on make believe? Any age seems fine.
So say the soothsayers of $CIENCE about two new medical procedures, Adadiktome, and Kutchyerkokoff. Also very ‘Safe and Effective’ we’re told
Do they “have something” on Paul Stanley? No… he’s a member of the Tribe that has this country by the throat. His bandmate Chaim Weitz — aka “Gene Simmons” — was born in Israel.
So I think Stanley’s just backtracking under tribal pressure to conform.
In any case, if we’re relying on a member of “Knights in Satan’s Service” to make the case against child trannification, we’re in deep shit…
Well, have you heard anything about what Gene Simmons has been saying over the last few years (or more)? Complete asshole. I don’t have a handy quote or anything but I’ve heard quite enough from Simmons and KISS. That includes any thoughts on life or their music.
Their music was super cool… when I was 10 (circa 1975). I outgrew them by the time I was a teenager. “Throw a dart” at any collection of classic rock bands and, wherever it lands, will be a better band (in every conceivable way), than KISS.
Show me an adult KISS fan and I’ll show you somebody that isn’t right. You can tell a lot about people based on what music they like.
Anyway, I am 100% unsurprised that Paul Stanley walked back his almost-rebellious tip toe words around the putrid subject. What would Gene say?!
I’m super disgusted with all the supposed “rebels” in music. It’s just a cosplay. With KISS it goes into larping. They pretend to be something that makes them huge amounts of money.
Some of them are actually quite talented but none of them (that I know about) deserve one second of attention regarding their philosophy or thoughts on current events.
Hi XM,
I’m aware of what Gene Simmons said re people who “wouldn’t take that vaccine”. It was pretty bad. Even Arnold Schwarzenegger, who was once “The Governator” of California, said “Screw your freedoms!” in one interview re people who wouldn’t “Wear a mask & get the jab”.
However, one performer who had a principled stand was Eric Clapton. He had a song called “Stand and Deliver”, which was written by Van Morrison. It protested the draconian COVID measures that governments around the world foisted on the masses.
Even Roger Waters, one of the co-founders of Pink Floyd, seems to have taken a stand, at least when it comes to the proxy war against Russia. He had a video calling out Joe Biden and asking for a stop to this war at the “Rage Against the War Machine” rally in DC a few months ago.
I have been an audiophile since 1965. I collect CDs and have 2000 of them, and three stereo systems at home. I like a wide variety of good music, that does not include Kiss. except for their song “Detroit Rock City”.
Even then, I strongly prefer swing jazz cover versions, such as the one listed below, where “Detroit Rock City” was changed to “Brooklyn, New York City”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMI4aGhTE5g
KISS was extremely popular in SE Michigan where I live, which probably led to the song “Detroit, Swing City”. I thought the band members looked like fools and I would have been embarrassed to be a fan.
I try to ignore politics of musicians … or I’d have a very small music collection, with no reggae, and almost no blues or soul music. I just listened to a few Kiss favorites on YouTube and I still don’t like them.
Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley have both made offensive statements. Stanley’s mainly about Simmon. Simmons is a champion in that regard. and does not seem to care about feedback. My wife heard him interviewed on TV and got angry because he was SO arrogant and offensive. Then she got mad at me for suggesting she ought to watch the interview (I didn’t watch) because the group’s two founding members, Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley, were both Jewish. Both were the sons of Holocaust survivors. So they might have had some unusual backgrounds before Kiss
Paul Stanley in 2019 said
“Kiss bassist Gene Simmons has recovered after having some kidney stones removed recently, and should be ready to perform well before the shark show. I tend to think he just ate gravel,” Stanley joked.
Paul Stanley said this about Simmons in 2014
at the Rock Hall of Fame induction:
“Look, the fact that we’re together 40 years is a testament — actually, we’ve been together 44 years,” Stanley says. “It’s like a marriage. And, thankfully, I never see him without his clothes.” 2014
Leftist language police got to Stanley in 2023 after conservative Michigander Ted Nugent seconded his quote — they acted fast and pushed back hard. Censorship is a primary tool of totalitarianism
Real musicans who have something to say will make music.
I have no idea why these “artists” feel it necessary to be creating content on Twitter. I guess they think they’re interacting with fans or something, but again, make music, that’s what the fans want.
Same thing with Rob Reiner, Scott Adams and Stephen King (see my other comment). If you have something to say you already have the big machine at your disposal. Why bother with social media? Hell, even Eric Peters figured out that its better to own your own printing press than line up to use someone else’s.
Rob Reiner is bad but Bette Midler is worse. She is a good singer, although very inconsistent, but her far left politics makes it hard for me to fully enjoy her talent
For example, this duet with James Caan from the movie “For The Boys”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zdH6U99hQ4
I don’t care.
Bob Dylan has usually been an exception, but he has little to say outside the music he writes.
My wife went to a Bob Dylan concert in Detroit in the 1990s and could not understand the lyrics. Bad sound system or he was drunk, or both. She also went to see Eminem, and could understand every word, although maybe that’s not ideal with rap music. Best sound quality is usually outdoors.
I don’t care.
John Roberts is an easy explanation. He is a big government guy & the growth provided by mandating the purchasing behavior of everyone was too much for this tiny Marxist was too much to pass up.
Staley on the other hand, just appears to be someone of weak conviction. Otherwise known as a typical celebrity.
Gene Simmons had some less than flattering things to say 2 years ago about people who wouldn’t “take that vaccine”. What is it with people who’ve preached against “The Establishment” in their careers or their youth having become “Pro Establishment” in their senior years?
I think these old guys’ brains are tuning to mush. Or they’re trying to stay relevant. Either way, “Act your age” seems to be the proper response for the whole lot of them.
I’d add Rob Reiner, Stephen King, Donald Trump and the whole cast of “The View” to that list too. O’Biden gets a pass because he’s just along for the ride at this point.
I agree, RK –
David Lee Roth had the good taste to retire and stop trying to be what he was – and could do – 40 years ago that he can’t do anymore and looks tragic trying to do, today.
I believe a majority of musicians peak early in their careers and stay in the business too long, including Elvis and Frank Sinatra. That list includes a favorite of mine: k. d. lang, who lost her songwriting skills, but insisted on mainly singing her own mediocre songs. See the link below for k. d. singing a Roger Miller country song in her prime, much better than Miller’s original version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwCAuulO6lE
Rod Stewart singing popular vocals was very disappointing. At least long-winded musicians don’t get physical damage like professional athletes who play too long.
Frank Sinatra kept singing long past his prime in the 1950s. Eventually he was very mediocre with some “duets” albums.
M. Ali kept boxing until he was brain damaged
Tom Brady stopped playing just a little too late, although he lost an attractive wife by being away from home for so many years, but somehow I don’t think he will have a problem getting dates!
Lots of athletes stay active too long.
https://sportscroll.com/35-star-athletes-who-stayed-around-for-too-long/35/
Keith Emerson killed himself because he couldn’t play keyboards anymore. Seems some others should have followed suit.
Eric,
Chicken Lee Broth might’ve crapped out, but Metallica is still doing pretty damn well. 😉
Indeed, BaDnOn –
Dave was arguably the best rock front man ever. But he was more an entertainer than a singer. His acrobatics and swagger were superb, though.
He did certainly have his moves and unmistakable, squealing voice, Eric. Furthermore, it is truly best to bow-out with dignity when you can.
Retired? DLR did a show on 3/23/23 in Vegas.
https://blabbermouth.net/news/watch-david-lee-roth-returns-to-live-stage-with-royal-machines-in-las-vegas
From link:
VAN HALEN frontman David Lee Roth performed with the all-star covers band ROYAL MACHINES at a “corporate” event this past Thursday night (March 23) at the Michelob Ultra Arena at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas, Nevada for Home Depot sales managers. Also appearing with the group were Darryl McDaniels, Mark McGrath, Linda Perry and Billy Idol. Fan-filmed video and photos of the concert can be found below. (Thanks to Darren Paltrowitz.)
Formed nearly a decade ago, ROYAL MACHINES is a hard rock group of established musicians who played rock and roll covers at various shows around America from 2002 through 2014 under the name CAMP FREDDY.
Hi Funk,
I didn’t know about that. I recall Dave posting a video announcing his retirement (this was about a year ago if memory serves). I thought it was the right decision. Dave’s voice is gone and he’s too old to perform his signature gymnastics. I prefer to remember him as I saw him – and the band – back in the ’80s, at the Capital Center in DC.
I saw him do a show at a bar in the Florida Keys in ‘01. It was loose but he definitely was a good performer even then and had the crowd really going crazy. I think these guys un-retire for one offs if the check is big enough. It’s gotta be a little humiliating to be performing for Depot middle management, though.
Hi Funk,
Yup, he could still do it in the early 2000s – but that was 20 years ago. He’s almost 70 now. And has a bad hip. If he had a great voice, his look (and act) would not matter. But Dave – and I am a fan – was never a great singer. It was his presence and the show he put on that made Van Halen what it was.
Van Halen is from my town, Pasadena. The modest Van Halen family home is one block south and one block east of my house. To think they played high school dances back in the day. I was born a little too late!
RE: “To think they played high school dances back in the day.”
Wow. Can’t imagine. … sorta can, though.
Never thought of it. Thanks for the insight.
VHF
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Insidiously, Belgian-owned Anheuser Busch Inbev not only purveys a full dozen mass market brands, but also sells through twenty ‘craft partners’ including (sadly) once-independent Four Peaks Brewing of Tempe, Arizona.
https://www.anheuser-busch.com/brands
Use this handy guide to stick it to each and every one of them.
Don’t do business with people who hate you.
Hi Jim,
I’ve come to practice that policy of “Don’t do business with people who hate you.” the best I can the past few years. I quit buying Gillette products a few years ago after they effectively went on an anti-manhood crusade. I also quit buying Coca-Cola products after they went “woke” and required employees to, IIRC, undergo “diversity training”. I also quit buying Hershey products after they implemented COVID jab mandates for employees, but what sealed their fate with me was when they celebrated “International Women’s Day” by plastering a transgender woman on the wraps of one of their chocolate bars. I’m curious about “Jeremy’s chocolate”, the Daily Wire’s response to Hershey’s chocolate. They had a creative ad campaign for their new product…….SHE HER & HE HIM; one of them has nuts.
Despite what we’re told, there is an ongoing trend to small and local. Unfortunately they’re subject to the same whims of the international raw materials markets as everyone else. Most towns of any size have microbreweries. Local/regional coffee roasters are common, at least in my neck of the woods. And it wouln’t take much effort to seek out a local hog, chicken or cattle rancher if you want to get some “clean protein.” The hard part is that you’re going to have to do some work and pay a pretty high premium, compared to driving your scooter to Dollar General.
https://beefinitiative.com
List of woke companies
https://daveseminara.com/complete-list-of-woke-companies-condemning-so-called-racist-voting-laws/
I don’t care.
Ditto