Now EV drivers are blaming other device drivers for all the waiting that comes along for the ride when you drive a battery powered device.
“Sometimes, technology doesn’t fulfill its promise. But, other times, it isn’t the tech that lets you down, it’s the people using it,” complains a device driver in an article published by CNN. The hyphenated-name writer whines about having to wait for what is styled – in truly Orwellian language – a “fast” charge, while other device drivers wait ahead of him in line getting their “fast” charge – because it takes so long time to “fast” charge.
The dismayed device driver explains:
“Recently, I drove a new Chevrolet Blazer EV from New York City to Bristol, Pennsylvania. I figured the drive down to Bristol with my family would take about 90 minutes and, since I didn’t start with a full battery, the return trip would take 15 to 20 minutes more with a stop along the way to charge up the EV some.”
Italics added. Explanation coming.
“I was so very wrong,” the device driver continues.
“It took us four hours to get home that night. We were sitting in line for electric vehicle chargers. Blame ill-mannered charger hogs who don’t respect EV etiquette.”
By which he means the device driver ahead of him in line at the “fast” charger – where one waits much longer than it takes to fully refuel a vehicle’s gas tank – stays plugged in because his “tank” isn’t full yet.
“EV fast chargers – the big tall units that look like major appliances – aren’t generally designed to completely fill an EV’s batteries. They are designed to pour electricity into a battery quickly so drivers can make a short stop and get back on the road after, say, 20 minutes or so. They’re different from the smaller and more common ‘slow’ or ‘destination chargers,’ in Tesla parlance, that are designed for drivers to park, plug in and leave for hours”
More italics added.
To begin with, “fast” chargers do not “pour” electricity. The attempt to create a false equivalence here is interesting.
And getting back on the road after 20 minutes is not a “short” stop, either.
Sit at a gas pump for that long and see how “short” it feels. During that time, dozens of gas-powered cars will have pulled up to the pump, filled all the way up and been back on the road in less than five minutes each. And not just them either. Because it only takes a few minutes to fully refuel even a full-sized truck or SUV with a 25 gallon tank, it is rare for anyone arriving at a gas station to have to wait more than a couple of minutes to fill up their tank.
The throughput at a gas station is the very definition of fast.
It’s a different scene at a not-so-fast charger and not just because it takes “20 minutes or so” for a “short stop.” Because it actually takes much longer than that – if you want a full charge, so as to not have to stop again – soon – for another “short” wait. 
As the device driver admits but does not explain, those not-so-fast chargers are designed to not-so-fast charge a device up to 80 percent full – at which point, the charge gets much slower. This is necessary to reduce the risk of damaging the device’s battery.
It might take another half hour or even an hour to get a full charge. That’s how a 90 minute drive ended up being a four-hour ordeal for the unhappy device driver.
He whines that people who wait while their devices fully charge – forcing him and other device drivers to wait, in turn – are like people at a restaurant who “casually chat over empty plates and half-empty wine glasses” while you wait for what he calls “your table.” Which reveals that the writer does not understand it isn’t his table so long as other customers who have paid to sit and eat and drink there are sitting there. More finely, it is the restaurant owner’s table – and if he wishes to allow his customers to eat and drink at a leisurely pace, that is his decision. The device driver’s comment reveals his entitled attitude – a common characteristic of people who think they are owed things. 
Such as other people’s time.
Those “ill mannered charger hogs,” for instance, may have wanted to get their devices fully charged up because they needed to get wherever they were headed – without another “short stop” for 20 minutes (or longer). This latter is an always-present worry with devices because almost all of them have less than 300 miles of best-case (under ideal conditions) range when fully charged. Some only have about 250 or so miles – unless you pay thousands extra for the “long range” battery.
So if you don’t fully recharge, you have 20 percent less than whatever the advertised fully charged range is – and that may not be enough.
So, you wait.
This annoys the device drivers waiting behind you – like the writer of the CNN article. But he has no right to complain because why should the driver who got there first have to unplug prematurely – and leave with hsi device not fully charged and on account of that, be obliged to stop again, soon, for another charge and another “short” wait?
Maybe he’d like to get wherever he was going in less than four hours?
Naturally, the solution is to ration charging time – and thereby, range. Instead of 100 percent full, 20 percent less. It’s a small ask – as the hyphenated-name people often say. And it goes without saying that the hyphenated-name people almost never just ask. 
“One electric vehicle charging company company is experimenting with cutting off people who linger, attempting to fill ‘er up,” the device driver-writer says.
Rationing is always the solution when it comes to things made scarce, inconvenient and expensive by the government.
The gas lines of the ’70s are a for-instance. It had nothing to do with there being too little gas to go around, in the sense of a natural scarcity. The lines developed because government had created an artificial scarcity. And government’s “solution” was to ration how much gas people could pump (and on what days they could pump).
Essentially the same “solution” put forward by the hyphenated-name device driver.
Only so much charge allowed. And then it’s time for another “short” wait. Which will all end up taking a long time. But that’s kind of the point of all of this, which fact escapes the hyphenated-name device driver.
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There are zero “fast” chargers. They haven’t been invented yet.
Probably never will be. Chemistry is chemistry.
You can’t even install what goes for a fast charger in a house. The electric company cannot provide that in a residential neighborhood.
It doesn’t help to redefine terms and argue about semantics when pushing back against these things. The first chargers were “slow” and installed solely at hime, using only 3kW or 6kW. Today, home chargers deliver up to about 25kW. A “fast” charger can deliver 350kW. It’s fast relative to the original ones, and that’s how other people use the term. It’s not fast in absolute terms.
I agree with you, it’s a profound waste of time waiting on these things.
Morning, OL!
I agree with Rich (and Stufo) about “fast” chargers. Yes, I understand they are “fast” relative to the time it takes to charge at home. But the terminology is deliberately disingenuous, even Orwellian. This whole EV thing is about conditioning people to accept and rationalize inconveniences, in this case by using verbiage to draw false equivalences. There is nothing “fast” about having to wait at least 20 minutes to get a partial charge when it only takes 3-5 minutes to fully fill up a typical car’s tank.
They are trying to get people to think about EVs like they have gotten them to think about gas being inexpensive now that it’s “only” about $3.20 gallon.
I can’t put my finger on it, but what is it with the hyphenated-last-name people. Raised by progressive single moms?
It doesn’t help to redefine terms and argue about semantics when pushing back against these things.
It’s not a matter of nitpicking about semantics, but of objecting to a propaganda term. Because that is what the term “fast charger” is. The charging performance has always been the Achilles heel of battery electric vehicles, and fast chargers would have solved that problem.
To use the term “fast charger”, therefore, is to imply that the charging performance problem has been solved. Propagandists know that if a lie is repeated often enough, it becomes accepted as truth. In this case, they have a large herd of useful idiots parroting the term, thereby perpetuating the lie for them.
However, since the charging time problem has never been solved, and no EV charger has ever been fast, it has never made sense to refer to any charger as a “fast charger”. It never made sense to refer to the COVID shots as “safe and effective”, either, in fact today the very idea that someone ever did that seems absurd. It’s about time people realise that the idea that today’s EV chargers are “fast chargers” is equally absurd.
(As for the history lesson, I would imagine that most people driving EVs today have no recollection of EVs charged with 3kW chargers, and will only have experienced level II and III chargers, and so they should know better than to think that the latter is fast.)
Well-said, Stufo!
I think OL – like many – assumes good intentions on the part of these people, because he is himself not like these people.
I have really grown to hate the dishonesty of how language is used.
Just because something is a “common term” doesn’t make it the truth.
It’s tiring to have to continually tell people: NO, that is incorrect, it’s not like that.
You get different reactions, mostly not good. You get the people who still don’t get it, it goes over their head. You have people who just don’t believe you because it’s the “current popular” term. Then you get the people who have created the dishonesty to begin with, so they defend it, and misalign you for pointing it out. Then there are the people here who get it, and that is the majority of the readers of this site, thankfully, so at least we have the oasis of this place (thanks Eric!).
You would think that all the kooky ideas would make it easier to counter the dishonesty but it sure doesn’t. People want to believe for some reason…..
I hate it when an ICE is termed as “gas guzzling”. How about overweight energy-hog EV bricks? There’s a lot of energy used to handle that extra weight.
Fair enough. I argue about these things with people constantly, being a car guy, working on car tech, surrounded by appliance fetishists. When you use a different meaning of a word than _they_ are used to, they tend to avoid the discussion altogether. That was my only point. How we got to calling these things “fast chargers” was a bit of unnecessary history lesson in this libertarian context.
I absolutely love to read stories like the “hyphenated name device driver” problems. It’s the best way to discourage people from buying these devices. Tears of these idiots are like golden unicorn rainbow farts in Clown World!!! And you can never have enough of them!
[Fast chargers p]robably never will be [invented]. Chemistry is chemistry.
All the more reason to highlight the absurdity of people claiming to be using something that might not even be possible to invent!
Absolutely, humor, mocking and poking fun of the absurdity is a more effective way to counter the propaganda.
Sounding angry (even if you’re not) never seems to work. It’s used to make YOU look like the kook.
The more EV’s in percentages of total cars that get sold (if it is happening?), the charging problem grows exponentially, fast. Charging stations are very high powered systems that just can’t be put anywhere, and if some are put in already, the opportunity to add to them later gets very difficult and expensive and in many cased impossible. The average Joe has no idea.
And as others have said, most EV owners will not admit their failures. Most just won’t buy another one.
As most know here already, it’s impossible for EVs% to get past some low percentage of 10-30%? of total cars. There just isn’t enough juice created.
The chickens are coming home to roost.
I do have to wonder, Eric. That is, how long are these horribly expensive EV batteries going to last with all the fast charging an owner has to do just maintain the privilege of driving said vehicle? At some point, the battery will not hold a charge, or will not charge at all, I am suspecting? Which leads to having to shell out the $20,000 dollars (or so?) for a new battery for an already overpriced vehicle.
Indeed, Shadow!
And it says so right there in the owner’s manual. Avoid “fast” charging as it isn’t good for the “health” (i.e., longevity) of the battery. Catch meet 22. In order for an EV to be even plausibly practical as a regular/daily use vehicle, “fast” charging is necessary because otherwise the vehicle must be plugged in at home for hours – days, if you do not have a home and a garage with a 240V “Level II” outlet.
So you schlep to – and wait at – the “fast” charger a mere 20-30 minutes to get a partial charge. And reduce the life of the battery that is the most expensive part of the device each time you do.
Where do I sign up?
Ugh, I know, and these parts, you would want to have a warm garage, so as to to protect it from the -40 below, Winter temperatures. But then (but wait, there’s more!) you run the risk of your garage and house burning down if said vehicle catches fire! Who knew an EV could also double as a fire starter, only in this case, one you cannot put out once started! Someone needs to put that in the EV Owner’s Manual as a “benefit”, because someone would actually believe it!
Lions, Tigers, and exploding EVs. oh my!
Mercedes EV explodes, injures 23, destroys 140 cars in South Korea | Auto Expert John Cadogan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNo9PJP9Qa8
See also tesla-fire dot com
Superconductor ? Or. Now there might be about 5% of cars on the road are Ev. 20x more chargers might just spark up that civil war. Lotsa grid enhancement and excavation of the most busy thoroughfares will be a giant bellows to stoke the fire. Real estate gonna be our gas stations, so bye bye ICE. There ya go. . . .
You know how the power companies have been going around adding berms and steel plates to protect transformer substations from rifle fire…?
Charger hogs are just being passively aggressive.
Ditch the passive bit. Serious sociopaths play ‘hogs of the road’ for a real horrorshow kick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zmE4o2bnsg
“hyphenated-name device driver”
Bravo!
I often gas up at Costco and it is always packed. But I’m usually out in 10 minutes or less. The EV thing reminds me of driving cross country in the days before cell phones and pay at the pump gas stations. There were times, especially late at night where I would be looking at the gas gauge and wondering if I would make it to the next truck stop. It sucked. But EV peeps get to experience it all the time!
Hard pass.
Harley Davidson, which makes some kind of ridiculous electric scooter, is getting the Butt Light shunning treatment at Sturgis, says an article at ZeroHedge today. That’s in response to its Wokester corporate policies.
An alienated Harley rider explains in this video. I want to hire this guy as my personal spokesperson, if I can’t obtain a black belt in sarcastic snark like this crunchy dude.
https://x.com/robbystarbuck/status/1820809677149466841
Aren’t Harleys garbage anyway? Truly the butt Light of bikes, living off the past
I don’t ride at all, but if I did, I’d be on an Indian
Hello Eric, were you somehow refering to me with that restaurant scenario, because I have just walked in to one and all the tables were filled with nearly 4/5 of the ‘customers’ not eating anything with their plates empty and not one person talking to the other. So I decided to wait for a spot while reading this article. Then after I finished reading, one person stood up, paid his bill and left, and as if on cue, everyone else stood up, paid and left in rapid succession. I’m now seated in the restaurant alone. Very weird. 😲
Have you bathed lately? JK …
Haha very funny… 😝
The device owner doth protest too much. Maybe stay on your phone while you wait, set up a folding chair and have some lunch where you are charging your car.
Hell’s bells, have a pond full of stocked fish, crappie, perch and bluegill. Bring a fishing rod and fish for a while, catch three and the charging device is ignored for a while. You’ll catch your supper, it’ll be fun.
Have a beer or two, have a thermos of coffee.
Might as well enjoy yourself instead of bellyaching about your four-wheeled device that is in a dormant mode until charged.
You can always go and buy a car with an engine, have to put gas in it, but that’s no problem when you go to fill-up.
Can’t complain about that.
HA! Reality bites into clown world, I love it. Not to mention that if all the chargers are in use the overall rate of charging will decrease. Next time pack some food and bring a sleeping bag….or better yet realize that you’ve been scammed and ditch the EV.
On a related topic I saw a recent article about a BMW EV that spontaneously combusted in the underground garage of an apartment building in S. Korea that drove everyone out of the building and destroyed everything around it. Don’t think anyone died but how much toxic smoke did they inhale while running out from the upper floors.
The problem is, Mike, is that this guy will never admit he has been scammed by his EV. It will always be someone else’s fault for his own stupidity, ignorance, and bad choices in life. Choices that he demands the rest of us pay the price for. The way I see it, if the EV charger customer is sitting there, and paying to charge his/her EV, and wants that 80 percent charge, and is also willing to sit there patiently for that additional hour, (that they are paying for) they should have that right, and no government crook should be able to “shut off” the charger because of impatient, entitled idiot fools like the one above. This is the problem with the “instant gratification, I-want-it-now” society we are in. And if EV owners could not figure out that they would be waiting to charge their EV batteries, rather than simply filling up a gas tank in five minutes or less, well, then, there is no helping said people, because as the saying goes, “you cannot fix stupid”.
If EVs had not been forced onto the market, this would not be an issue.
The hubris is astounding. He insists on driving an EV, yet is severely perturbed about the inherent inconvenience. Perhaps he should buy his own “fast” charger, or an ICE?
How about a diesel generator on a cargo carrier?
“The expensive and new-looking BYD Atto 3 was dumped in a one-hour charging bay for almost a week, and EV drivers were less than impressed.”
https://au.news.yahoo.com/byd-owners-disgraceful-act-prompts-electric-car-war-014102779.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAE77Bp4-dbKcS-Gpzrz_KKxhF0lg3qTo2kCv0XmzjaFedISVj1EYoJ8uiyDU7U_4QDVbkzEvvPwwuYF1IR3ks7mvgHniMT37eKgGwXsXdKZCghSQ_dg6j_d5SrAyNo4I7xanKwIhZ9HilQWeyqSkK4nK1FYd9Ghl794gdOr0u7KS
This isn’t going to be an easy to fix problem. Everyone recognizes the charging issue (hell, even senile Joe read a speech about it), you know there’s a lot of people chomping at the bit to get some of that money to “fix” it. I’m certain someone read that article and even if for a fleeting few seconds thought about looking at real estate prices near that charger. Maybe even did a quick Zillow search to get some idea of what it might cost to get additional charging capacity in the area.
One of the big accomplishments of Tesla was building out the initial charging network, based primarily on how far their first generation vehicles could travel from cities. There probably wasn’t much thought given to capacity in most of the charging stations, because there weren’t that many vehicles. But Tesla has tight control over their whole ecosystem. They know exactly where all the vehicles spend their time, where they charge, how far they travel. And therefore can plan and expand as needed (as long as they have power infrastructure available of course). But even they screw up and if there’s a big travel event the lines are brutal.
The problem with building out a charging network for any vehicle that comes along is that the entrepreneur who’s setting up the station has no idea what vehicle will be visiting, what the range is, what the overall capacity is, nor will they be able to adjust as more vehicles are sold (or not). The government subsidies are designed to help offset the bad bets, but without the need to sell an idea to groups of investors (who have their own experts on staff to poke holes in your plan), it’s pretty much guaranteed that the subsidy will be wasted on failed projects. Look for more complaints about manufacturers “sharing” data with the charging network operators -both pro and con, and standards for uploading data.
And much like crowded roads during the summer rock and river festival, lack of beds in the face of a pandemic, or lack of parking on Strawberry Days, none of these plans account for the 99th percentile. That’s extremely wasteful. Instead aim for 80th percentile or less. Sure some people will have to wait a while a few times a year (or every Saturday afternoon), but much of the time there will be open spots, no problem. Heck, I’ll be if the writer came though at 2:00 am s/he could have their pick of the pedestals. Just because s/he’s a herd animal doesn’t mean society has to adapt to them. Perhaps the operator of the charging station could employ a boarder collie to keep the lines moving…
One of the big accomplishments of Tesla was building out the initial charging network
One of the monumental failures of Tesla has been the lousy charging speed of the chargers in the network they built. At no point in time have there been fast chargers in Tesla’s network, only slow ones (even though plenty of people like to pretend that they are fast, but the figures don’t lie). That’s still a problem today, and Tesla don’t seem to care about it.
Its a matter of how much excess demand overhead is available at the nearest electrical substation.
EV charge stations have enormous but intermittent demand which is not always predictable. Power is not infinite and 5kv feeders are not inexpensive.
This whole “problem” would go away with surge pricing. When demand is heavy, which is defined as the sensors in the line waiting for a station detect 3 devices, the price goes up, say, 25%. 50% for 4 devices, 100% for 5 devices, etc.
Come through at 2am, and you get regular old prices. ‘Course, since there is no solar, and often no wind at that time, the price should also reflect the fact that these virtue signalers are filling up with coal.
The only worthwhile solution would be to install fast chargers at charging stations. However, since fast chargers do not currently exist, they would have to be invented first. Also, someone would need to figure out where the power to these chargers would come from.
That is the hiliarity of it all. That is, that the energy used to charge these EV’s comes from the same dirty electricity these virtue signaling owners claim to detest so much. Let’s see a tree, the sun, or the wind charge that thing first, and really put your money (their money) where their mouths are. The reality is, in the end, EV owners are still using that “dirty energy” to charge up their not-so-environmentally friendly EV. If these people were not so serious about forcing us into these EV’s (and ultimately, out of cars altogether), it would be funny as hell.
Didn’t Warner Discovery totally write off CNN and their other “linear” TV networks this week?
Something tells me that the writer isn’t going to have that EV for much longer.
Saw a video somewhere of the Kackler extolling the virtues of EVs. She was standing next to the device, holding the charger like it was a gas pump, talking about how wonderful it was that it made no noise, wasn’t messy, and didn’t smell. She even gushed something or other about the lack of guzzling. Couldn’t tell if she was talking about gas or something else.
“and didn’t smell”
As a child back in the late 1960’s, I remember the wonderful scent coming out of the tail-pipe of my parents rambler as it sat idling in the driveway. Was almost magical.
Gas used to smell SO GOOD!
Gasoline doesn’t smell anything like it used to.. and I don’t believe it is anywhere near the quality it once was.
I’m afraid that might have been the Tetraethyllead.
The lead deposited on the valves.
The gasoline was red and had an octane level of 98 in premium grade.
Regular was 94 octane.
There was even a gas station attendant that would clean your windshield and pump the gas.
1960 was a good year.
Maybe.. but surely the lack of GMO corn alcohol and higher octane back then. 😁
The gas back then was aromatic, it just smelled good.
To my way of thinking, the lead in the gasoline reduced the volatility, a benefit and reduced the malodorous VOC’s.
Seems to make sense to a village idiot like me. The opinion might be right.
No one will argue that it did smell good, even if it was bad for ya. Sniffing airplane glue is bad for ya.
It’s been another good day in America.
The weather is just right today.
There’s a business opportunity for the owners of the EV charging stations. Since it takes so long even to fast charge, the key is to keep ’em entertained. Some random ideas:
-Arcade / video games
-Brothel (of course accommodate all of the modern perversions of sex)
-Gym (including instructor led pilates, yoga, etc)
-Bar (plenty of time to tie one on & sober up)
-Dining (everything from “fast” to casual to high end)
Feel free to pile on.
Remember the guys selling oranges on the freeway on ramps? Or if you’re in south Florida, the bikini-clad hot dog saleswomen?
Set up a tofu taco stand. A cricket concession. A kale kiosk. Provide jobs for the trans community…
All good ideas. It is too bad that major corporations have absolute advantage in the marketplace to skim money off us proles. A small business would never be allowed to set up around charging stations because environment or zoning codes. I like the idea of the brothel myself.
The Geico Gecko probably has what you suggest in mind with his buying Pilot/Flying-J.
My guess is that Dairy Queen, See’s, and Nebraska Furniture Mart electronics are coming soon to a Pilot truck stop near you.
Oh, and a Geico Insurance kiosk.
There is an Arby’s and Cinnabon in the Pilot Truck Stop near me.
Since it takes so long even to fast [sic] charge
If it takes a long time to charge, then it’s obviously not fast charging.
the key is to keep ’em entertained
No, the EV industry needs to get rid of the condescending attitude that drivers should be willing to put up with having to kill time during charging (no matter where and when). Instead, the manufacturers themselves must get their act together and fix the charging time problem once and for all.
In that regard, this rant called “Attitude adjustment” by Peter DeLorenzo is worth a read.
Well if the hyphenated-name writer whines about that just wait till he sees what happens when you try towing with your Cyberdreck! As Craig from the Flying Wheels YouTube channel points out you can’t drive through with it and your only options are to unhook your trailer or block all the other chargers to charge your EV. While Amazon sells a Tesla charger extension cable it’s only for level 1 & 2 chargers.
Don’t forget if rationing worked East Germans would not have waited in line, Cubans would not be skinny and Canadians would not have problems finding doctors or in other words “socialist” country’s ration things and the peasants living there line up for however long it takes to get the item in question.
Eric,
Charger hogs are like people who leave their cars parked at the gas pump after they’ve filled up.
Not if they are simply choosing to charge to 100 %. If they leave their cars at the charger after that point, your analogy would have made sense, but otherwise it doesn’t.
Uh, my analogy WAS predicated on people leaving their cars plugged in after reaching 100% SOC! I thought that this didn’t need to be said.
Hi Mark,
The difference is that the EV driver’s device isn’t filled up… yet. That’s the whole point of the article. Of course the driver of a car that has been fully fueled is a jerk if he just leaves his car at the pump, preventing others from getting gas. But the device driver? His device needs to be parked there to get the charge. Especially if he wants a full charge.
Eric,
My point was that many people DO leave their EVs at the charger after reaching 100% SOC! I follow EVs a bit, and this is a problem.
Hi Mark,
Granted. But the more relevant fact is that it takes at least five times as long (about 20 minutes) to recover a partial charge at a “fast” charger than it does to fully refuel a gas-engined vehicle, so that all by itself will create waits. Then add to the problem that if the device owner wants a full charge, it’s going to take at least an hour. That means two hours – at least – for the device driver next in line who also wants a full charge.
It is idiocy compounded.
I don’t know about non-Tesla chargers (Electrify America, EVgo, Chargepoint, etc.), so I can’t speak for them. I understand that they’re problematic, and that one’s lucky to find all chargers working. I wouldn’t want to use them, as the waits there will be long.
That’s why, if I owned an EV, I’d get Tesla; the Tesla Supercharger network is the best, bar none. Most Tesla Supercharger locations have more than enough stalls to accommodate anyone needing a charge. It’s only at a few, select locations where a Tesla owner has to wait to plug in; there’s a notorious one in CA. However, Tesla owners normally don’t wait to plug in; they can just plug in, charge, and go.
Oklahoma City– do NOT own an EV there. Of course Oklahoma being a major energy state I doubt there are too many people but that city is one of the worst.
600,000 population. TWO EV chargers for the entire city one in the NE and one across town in the SW, nada in between. It is bananas. You would have to be a masochist to own an EV in OKC.
Does that include Tesla Superchargers too, or is that only for non-Tesla chargers? The reason I ask is that Tesla has built out a pretty comprehensive charging network.
It is Tesla Superchargers. It looks like they’ve built some other 3rd party ones but Tesla has only 2 for the entire city even still. (Just looked it up) Crazy!
That’s surprising, as Tesla’s Supercharger network covers most, if not all, of the Continental US.
Never encountered that problem until I went to Daytona 2 years ago for Jeep beach with my Bronco.
Someone left their Beetle (13+ model) at the pump, so I just backed into a spot so I could fill up. Of course, they probably were going inside Buck-ee’s to pay &then got distracted like a kid in a candy store, but still eye opening as Jersey it’s just in & out.
At least we got solutions to that problem, you’re SOL with a Douche Buggie
Depends. There’s been a number of times when I needed a nature break after filling up. Run in, run back out. Easy. But then there are the people who go in on EBT distribution day and wait for their “snacks,” stuck behind the old man buying scratchers and making the cashier check EVERY Powerball ticket for a winner. To be honest, I’ve probably been both of those guys over the years, usually because I didn’t anticipate the lottery investor and I was out of cigarettes.
I have thought about parking my 2006 Pilot in an EEEEEVEEEEEE charger spot.
You are welcome to do that, someone else is welcome to spike your tire’s sidewall so you are stuck waiting for a tow.
I feel about this like I do about people that park across 2-3 parking spaces for their car they think is so precious that is usually somewhere between average and maybe slightly high-end. I have never seen an exotic or actual high-end car parked this way because people that can afford those cars are usually of above average intelligence.
You park across 2-3 spaces in a crowded parking lot don’t be surprised when you come out if the -exact- thing you were trying to avoid has happened. Scratched (read: keyed) paint, bent wipers, whatever.
There are ways to show displeasure with EVs or protect your precious car without being a passive aggressive douchebag or inconsiderate prick.
Yeah, I accidentally parked my pickup and tandem car hauler across the EV charging lanes at a fast food place a couple weeks ago. Oopsie! I’m sure there will soon be a law enforcement campaign against this awful behavior.
“ Charger hogs are like people who leave their cars parked at the gas pump after they’ve filled up “
Doesn’t go down well during Bike Week at Sturgis. Bikers expect everyone to fill and MOVE, it’s busy and works fine. Until some moron civilian in a cage leaves it parked while shopping in the minimart. Got an earful from the biker crowd guy was lucky to leave intact.