Just 1-2 Percent Per Year . . .

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Would you  be ok with it if a car you bought this year delivered 1-2 percent less gas mileage than it advertised by the end of the year? That’s what you’ll get if you buy an electric vehicle. But for some odd reason, there have been no recalls. No government “action.” Not even any calls for such “action.”

Fascinating.

If “1-2 percent” per year doesn’t sound like much to you, consider how much “1-2 percent” adds up to after about eight years or so. Now we’re up to about 15 percent. If we were talking about a gas-powered vehicle that advertised it goes 35 miles on a gallon of gas and it lost 15 percent of that after eight years or so, it’d only travel about 30 miles on the same gallon. After ten years, at the same rate, you’d be down into the high 20s.

Bad enough as such. But it’s worse when we’re dealing with EVs because most of them don’t go very far to begin with – before they begin to lose range at the rate of “1-2″percent annually. The 2025 Chevy Equinox EV, for instance, touts a fully charged range of 319 miles before it begins to lose “1-2 percent” of that each year. In its case, after eight years, it will have lost about 48 miles of its original range, which means you’d only have about 271 miles of range.

After ten, you’d be down into the mid 260s.

And as readers of this column already know, it’s functionally less than that – because it’s problematic to risk using up close to most of an EV’s maximum-remaining range because it is not like running low or out of gas. The latter is a minor inconvenience; the former a day-ruining disaster. You cannot carry a can of volts back to a discharged EV. The EV will have to be carried to a place where it can be charged. And once there, you will be obliged to wait for at least 20 minutes to get a partial charge, which won’t take you very far . See that part about not having much fully charged range to begin with and even less if you’ve suffered “1-2 percent” losses every year for a few years. Now reduce that by another 20 percent since you can only “fast” charge an EV’s battery to 80 percent before the charging reverts to very slow.

There’s another catch, too.

The “1-2 percent” degradation rate is optimistic; it assumes the EV’s owner takes care to “maintain the health” (this is the language used) of the battery. That entails not subjecting the battery to hard use, especially regular “fast” charging, which is hard on EV batteries just as it is hard on all electric batteries. It is why the recommendation is to slow-charge EV batteries (as at home) is recommended to “maintain the health” of EV batteries. The catch is that in order to “maintain the health” of the EV’s battery, one must be willing to plan one’s life around waiting hours for the EV battery to charge, which most people haven’t got time to do.

Especially if it’s in the middle of the day.

EV propagandists – who are also EV apologists – like to argue that they’re not actually waiting for a charge because they’re at home asleep. Of course, the fact that they are at home, asleep does not mean they aren’t waiting. It is like saying you’re not waiting for the plumber to show up because you’re doing some housework while you wait for him to show up.

And if they’re not at home – and need to be driving rather than waiting – then they have to rely on the “fast” charger if they don’t want to be waiting hours. There goes the “health of the battery.” No owner of a gas-powered vehicle ever had to worry about the “health” of the gas tank. If it held 15 gallons when the car was bought, this year, it will still hold 15 gallons in 20 years, barring a leak. Which is easily and cheaply fixed, even if it requires replacing the tank.

Not so much the battery.

But – returning  to the main point – how is it that there’s no rictus of outrage emanating from the craws of people who bought EVs and are having to deal with losing range every year they own their device? Keep in mind that it’s not just range they’re bleeding but also value. One of the chief reasons EVs are worth less each year than vehicles that have engines and gas tanks rather than electric battery packs and motors is that the electric battery packs begin to degrade as soon as they are put into service and because the cost to replace an EV battery pack is enormous, typically amounting to $10,000 or more.

Yet, there is silent acceptance. As if this were normal. As if this were reasonable. It’s as fascinating as the largely silent, insouciance acceptance of what was done to people by the likes of Dr. Fauci during the (cough) “pandemic.”

Arguably, these it’s all the result of the battering of the population into a state of dulled passivity by decades now  – since Nahhhhnnnnnleven –  of Fear This and Do That and don’t ask any questions about any of it.

It is as if everyone, just about, has joined a cult. And the fact is, most of them have. And the thing is, when you’re in a cult, you don’t think you’re in a cult.

39 to beam up.

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79 COMMENTS

  1. The paid trolls on Facebook and other sites always post the same stupid replies when the subject of waiting to recharge comes up – “I can have a bite to eat and use the bathroom.”. I never needed 45 minutes to do that. Their time is worthless I suppose. They must get their talking points from the same group that gives them to the Lamestream Media…

    • Amen, Steve –

      It’s like the people who justify taking the “vaccines.” They will say: I got “COVID” (again) but it could have been so much worse…

  2. Don’t you know you’re not supposed to keep an EV for eight years? LOL!

    As I’ve said time and time again, the entire business model that EVs are predicated upon is not one of owning, but renting them—either via lease or ride share. So if you’re renting, who cares if the vehicle is toast after eight years?

    Which sounds pretty wasteful to me.

    I remember people being up in arms about GM’s “planned obsolescence” where they changed the tail fins on Cadillacs every year. But if you don’t care about the tail fins on your Cadillac, you can keep it until it falls apart. Not so with EVs.

    In fact, one of the best ways to reduce the REAL environmental impacts of your car is to keep it as long as possible. Again, not so with EVs.

    Why this fact isn’t being discussed is a mystery to me—or maybe not.

  3. The “device” war heats up in Beirut and Lebanon. First it was the pagers exploding, then radios, then home solar systems and now cars. Yes cars.

    https://citizenwatchreport.com/cars-are-now-randomly-exploding/

    Join the Neo-Luddite movement, repent technology and simply live. Like the old Indian chief says, chop wood, carry water. Of course just about no one will every renounce their cell phone, until the big one goes off. Just think of the madness the day the nukes go off and cell phones quit – what will people do when they have their heads bent over staring into a black blank screen? My god, they will have to look up and talk to real people, not over a connection, but in real life. My god, the horror!

    • The only thing that needs to explode is Bibi’s stupid head. There he was, gone.

      Vlad the Impaler had more compassion for his victims.

      The Jews might finally come to their senses, at the moment, they haven’t a lick of sense.

      Get out of town, go someplace else, get a life.

      Killing people to death ain’t no life to live.

      So just stop it.

  4. Something important happened today: the Federal Reserve currency counterfeiters slashed their policy interest rate by half a percentage point, not the usual timid quarter point.

    What’s up with that? The Sahm Rule, named for a Federal Reserve insider, Claudia Sahm, has been triggered by a rising unemployment rate. It says that a recession is either underway now, or imminent within months.

    In analogous time, today is the same day as the half-point rate cuts on Sep 18, 2007 and Jan 3, 2001. In both of those cases, the ensuing recession didn’t start until two or three months later. And the really scary, white-knuckle stuff that happens toward the end of a recession was still a year or two away. The Fed had espied the approaching iceberg, but the Titanic band was still blowing jaunty dance tunes on the party deck.

    Thanks to this lag effect, the coming troubles will be pinned on Orange Man Bad. He will be pilloried as Herbert Hoover II by the D-party. Nevertheless, the cake is already baked and now is emerging from the oven.

    Cotton’s pretty thin yonder on the hill, honey
    Cotton’s pretty thin yonder on the hill, baby
    Cotton’s pretty thin yonder on the hill
    Won’t clear a greenback dollar bill
    Baby, sweet thing, darling

    https://www.woodyguthrie.org/Lyrics/Black_Wind_Blowing.htm

  5. There’s a commercial on these days that always gives me a laugh. Here is that ad in paragraph form:

    “Fancy a nap while your Ioniq 5 is charging? Have no fear, the front seats in the Hyundai have a Nap Mode. Simply press a button on the side of the seat and it automatically slides backward, then reclines into a more relaxing position meaning you’ll drift off in no time, dreaming about the wonderful gadgets on your new EV.”

    https://www.moveelectric.com/e-cars/hyundai-ioniq-5-review

    So just quit your bitchin’ and take a nap at the charger!

    Have a few beers. Smoke some grass. Do whatever you have to do.

  6. Unfortunately, for consumers, we have already “accepted” lessor versions of light bulbs, toilets, gas cans, major home appliances, lawn equipment etc just to name a few. So they think they can get away with this too.

  7. ‘when you’re in a cult, you don’t think you’re in a cult.’ — eric

    New Wave Of Blasts Rock Beirut For 2nd Day: Hand-Held Radios Explode, Over 300 Wounded — ZH

    The old double-tap: a signature of Mossad and its Americlown collaborators.

    Your tax dollars at work.

    • What… The fuck?…

      I will join in asking how this is not a war-crime. How is THIS not terrorism?

      This is some shit a Bond-villain would do. And yes, villain. You don’t know if these devices are being held by a kid or next to innocent people when they are detonated. How many people crashed because their pants suddenly exploded when driving? It’s sick.

      • I wonder if this is all a BS propaganda story to get the opposition to throw away and not use their communication devices. I mentioned this in a different post, but this all seems like a science fiction story. Color me skeptical.

        • Possibly, Mr. Liberty, but it still makes them look really bad. Bad global PR. Also, WE might not know if it were all some kind of psy-op, but the Lebanese would quickly learn the truth.

          • Not so sure. We don’t even know what’s going on in Springfield, OH. The Lebanese are likely also suffering from lack of verifiable information (especially because they’re essentially a 3rd world county in the middle of an undeclared war). Thus, in an abundance of caution this potential psyop might just cause them ditch their electronic devices thinking they may be next. That would have to have some effect of curtailing communications.

            It really seems like a SciFi story to me.

  8. What I can’t understand is WHY EV and even laptop makers haven’t adopted battery saving software that any Google Chromebook has. I have a Chromebook for traveling, so I can get online. I also keep it as a spare, in case my PC has to go to the shop. Chromebooks can be useful. For the last year or so, they’ve had a software update that preserves the Li-Ion battery.

    Google Chromebooks have had an update and addition to their OS that basically protects and saves the Li-Ion battery. Every so often, the software limits battery charging to 80%, and then it trickle charges it to 100% over the course of a few hours. It doesn’t do this all the time, either; it does this at infrequent, but regular intervals. Since they came out with that, my Chromebook has not experienced any battery degradation whatsoever. My Lenovo Chromebook has had this software update for about a year, and its battery hasn’t been degraded a bit; I know, because I track the battery life. I had the Lenovo Chrome book for a few months before this software update was released, and it lost a fraction of a % of battery life; afterwards, it hasn’t lost any. This software IS GREAT! Why don’t EV makers incorporate this software into their vehicles? It would seem to be such a simple and easy thing to do. Shoot, I wish my new PC laptop had this, so the battery would live longer…

    • Computers/laptops are largely unregulated and out of the control of government (hence, the constant and consistent giant leaps forward in technological breakthroughs).

      The makers of these electronics have to serve their customers as best they can to get repeat business.

      Car manufacturers do not have to serve customers or at least do so secondarily, only government bureaucrats must be made happy with their product. Stifled technological advancement (and hilarity) ensues.

      Classic case of free market vs. over-regulation.

      • I’m well aware of gov’t interference and regulation. However, I don’t see how or why such a simple and effective software update would be prohibited.

    • Let’s start with car batteries are much more difficult to manage than a laptop.

      Then who wants a car that randomly limits charge to 80%?

    • Why don’t EV makers incorporate this software into their vehicles?

      Probably because charging is already insufferably slow as it is, and what you propose would most likely have made it even worse.

  9. ‘It is as if everyone, just about, has joined a cult.’ — eric

    This topic is suited to a book-length treatment.

    Comparisons of one era to another are subjective. But long-term polling data backs up the assertion that political polarization is much greater now than in the 20th century.

    Harder to assess is the quality of leadership. America certainly has had some mediocre leaders in the past. For instance, a little nobody named Truman gave us the unconstitutional Fourth Branch of government — the national security state — which now runs roughshod over the people, collecting and storing our location and communications.

    But during the ‘Biden’ regime, the bizarre swing into flying gay and tranny flags at the White House and overseas embassies definitely has cult characteristics. Why would the US fedgov officially promote an alternative sexual lifestyle? It’s freakish; warped.

    Unfortunately the gay cult is not the only one in play. As the US collaborates in atrocities in its proxy wars, we can see the outlines of an apocalyptic death cult in Ukraine, seeking to trigger WW III. And in the little apartheid colony which poses as our greatest, bestest friend [sic] ever, there’s a well-documented, publicly-discussed sexual torture cult to sodomize the Untermenschen.

    This cult stuff ultimately leads to mass death, as humans collectively run off the rails. Too bad that this time around, the US is an epicenter of the decadence and deviancy. With the rule of law shattered, only Aleister Crowley’s moral commandment is left standing: do as thou wilt.

      • We are in another Wiemar Republic just because of the jews.
        History is repeating itself, with jewish decadence infecting just about every aspect of modern western societies.
        From not only forced acceptance of homosexual and transgender behavior, both homosexuality and transgenderism being imposed on children as young as three years of age and even younger, to the “anything goes” attitudes that pervade western societies, we are in big trouble once again. Add to that, heterosexuality is demonized while the mental illnesses of homosexuality, trangenderism, and other such disorders are not only tolerated but “in your face” acceptance and deference to these mental illnesses is demanded by jew-run societies. Mental illness has been “normalized”, just as what was done in Wiemar Germany.
        There is much said about the German “book burnings” that occurred during those times. The “books” being burned were not classics, but were LGBTQXYZ advocacy texts that were published by the Hirschfeld Institute, a jew-run “sexual research institution that advocated gender bending and gender changing not only for adults, but for young children. Sound familiar?
        Keep in mind, jewish beliefs state that there are 8 genders>/b>, not just male and female, two of which are gender changing by human intervention, surgical mutilation, not unlike circumcision, which is also unnecessary and criminal mutilation of a healthy body part.
        Both the entertainment and sports franchises are used to mollify the citizenry and provide them with enough “bread and circuses” to keep them under control.
        The “civil-rights”, multiculturalism and diversity charades are presently running out of steam despite the rush of corporations towards diversifying their workforces, placing heterosexual white gentile males at the bottom, being treated as pariahs.
        The upcoming gentile white male generation will not sit idly by and watch their birthright be stolen from them by jew-run (and poisoned) society.
        Pushback is coming…
        Presently, the only thing holding this canard together is the jewish fable, “holocaustianity” which is being codified into civil law as the new Mi>“state religion” from which proper disbelief and questioning of is criminalized. Canada is but the latest country to make “holocaust denial” (revisionism) a crime. This “hoax of the 20th century” is still being used to insulate the jews from criticism, but is failing as we speak.
        Hopefully, the “war” in Gaza will mobilize the masses and finally reveal the extent of jewish treachery and dominance in today’s western societies.
        The jewish cancer must be excised.
        Country 110 is counting and almost ready…

        • >The “books” being burned were not classics

          Whereas the books which were burned in the United States during the First World War were in fact classics of German literature, and were burned, in many cases, by school children, who were taught to hate everything German.

          In parts of the U.S., it was made illegal to teach, or even to speak, the German language. Tarring and feathering, and even lynching, of Americans of German heritage are historical fact. People, including some of my relatives, changed their names to something which sounded more English, out of fear. Likewise, streets, and even entire towns and cities had their names changed.

          It is ironic that what was the largest ethnic group in the U.S. has the distinction of being the only group which was the target of an organized campaign of hatred directed against it by its own government, under President Woodrow Wilson.

          We are told that Woodrow Wilson was a “great” president. Evidently, conducting a campaign of hatred against your fellow citizens is a mark of “greatness.”

          • You are correct…couldn’t have honest American citizens of German descent interfering with “the great war”.
            Woodrow Wilson was a scumbag who ushered in communism, central banking and the income tax…
            If not for the two world wars, Germany would have outposts on the moon and Mars today.
            The world would be much more advanced.
            The jews would have been put in their place.
            Regards,

            • Note that Werner Heisenberg made a special trip to Copenhagen in, I believe, 1943, to inform his friend and colleague, and fellow Nobel laureate, Niels Bohr (HTBJ) that the Third Reich did *NOT* have a nuclear weapons program. Since Bohr later joined the Manhattan Project and moved to Los Alamos, it is virtually certain that this fact was known to the scientific leadership of the Manhattan Project, and possibly to the military leadership (General Groves) as well.

              Thus, the original justification for the Manhattan Project (the Germans might build a nuclear weapon) was nullified early on. But, bureaucracies have a way of justifying their own existence. In for a penny, in for a pound, as they say, and they were “in” for millions of dollars. Can’t let that “investment” go to waste.

              And make no mistake, The Bomb was being developed to use on Germany, not Japan. In that sense, the Manhattan Project was a failure, because Germany surrendered before The Bomb was ready. Japan was just the consolation prize.

          • “distinction of being the only group which was the target of an organized campaign of hatred directed against it by its own government”

            Hello from the native Americans in the group.

          • A young, would-be scientist whose family had emigrated from Germany and settled in the fictional town of Hill Valley, CA (presumed to be someone on the extreme east of the “Inland Empire”) in 1908, by name of Emmett Von Braun experienced anti-German persecution as a result of wartime propaganda during what was then termed, “The Great War”, and the family changed their surname to “Brown”. It’s presumed by the story that the famed ex-Nazi rocket scientist, then working at the US Army Redstone Arsenal and making “space” documentary movies for Disney, was a relative.

  10. From an engineer’s perspective, the battery degrades so much per year, then has a catastrophic fall off on the chart when the battery fails altogether and must be replaced.

    People often replace their original hybrid battery with a rebuilt one, and have to surrender the original battery pack for one of unknown condition and origin. The fact is, the car is never the same again, and the replacement battery could fail shortly, usually after the 1 year warranty expires.

    That is why on Craigslist you see hybrids for sale, with a reconditioned battery pack. The car is worthless with a dead battery, dealers want nothing to do with Prius and dead battery on a trade in. So the owner, facing total capital loss of his hybrid car “investment” buys a aftermarket battery, gets the car functional again, drives it for a few months, gets nervous, and puts the car up for sale.

  11. Just like inflation.

    And we all know inflation is consistently understated. (By excluding good/eneorgy costs, and other tricks.)

    Is this loss in the batteries accurately stated, or does it too come with an asterisk?

    In fairness you probably lose a tiny bit of gas mileage as your ICE car ages, but it’s—what, a fraction of an MPG after 20 years or so? Not very much, by comparison.

  12. Kind of like the Fed and it’s “desired” inflation rate off 2% per year, and that didn’t work out so well either. That’s more than 20% in ten years, being compounded annually. In ten years you get more than a 20% pay cut, or more than 20% range decline.
    In the unlikely event we ever see inflation ever getting down to 2% again.

  13. As for the EV nuts saying that your EV is not wasting your time charging overnight, what if you or one of your family members has a medical emergency in the middle of the night? We had to take my son to the ER with a 103-degree fever. If your stupid, glorified golf cart on steroids doesn’t have enough juice, you’re either SOL or must call a costly ambulance. Ridiculous.

    There’s no reason for these devices except to get people out of their cars by making them both useless and unaffordable. As I always tell people, EVs cost and weigh twice as much as a comparable ICE vehicle, go half as far and will burn you to a cinder if the battery pack is compromised (see thermal runaway).

    • Preach it, Dr!

      My hope is that enough people are finally beginning to understand… the same as they finally have with regard to “vaccines” and “masks.” Speaking of which, a new Diaper Report is coming…

      • just learned a very healthy bro in law of one of our best friends, had a massive stroke. probably not going to make it. all shots up to date. so sad.
        but his hospital bill will be outrageous. still in there on life support, 4-5 days now?
        When are insurance companies going to call someones bluff? Or do they just keep raising our rates to the moon?

        • Sorry to hear that Chris. I don’t know why people take ANY shots. My ridiculous Aunt last week whined about having to get her flu shot. I just nodded since you can’t talk sense into her about the medical industrial complex brainwashing. I sat there and thought – she’ll be sick from that shot guaranteed.

          Well, lo and behold, I found out she is sick – dizzy or some bullshit side effect from the shot. She does this EVERY year and the result is the same every year. Yet she continues in getting the shots. Sad, sad, sad.

      • Again, the point isn’t an engineering discussion about the considerable drawbacks of EVs which the industry has no promise of solving in the near future. The issue is FORCE from the Government, whether by outright fatwas that any new vehicle must be one of these oversized Matchbox contraptions, or using the tax code to again engage in “social engineering “.

  14. There is a reason for the lack of outrage. People who bought into this load of crap love to virtue signal. That type person generally has difficulty acknowledging mistakes. Maybe they save that kind of thing for confession. Mechanics and tow truck drivers are the new filth eaters. They have lots of stories of remorseful and angry owners who wont ever be repeat EV customers.

    As for the depletion of range, its probably worse than you’re reporting. After all, don’t many of these stats and figures come from government approved/sponsored sources? Not sure about anyone else, but for me, any “statistics” that get served up by these sharp dealing shit shovelers are treated with a grain of salt. It all goes back to YMMV, and it does indeed vary. Steep increases in elevation, extreme heat, extreme cold, living close to the sea, as well as a communist style collapsing grid/supply chain, and the safety of public charging spaces, makes these vehicles worth less than 15 dead flies.

  15. The price on a 2015 Tesla model S is 15,000 dollars at Cargurus.

    A new 2024 is 76,000 to 91,000 dollars.

    76,000-61,000=15,000

    In 10 years, the value will be at least 80 percent less than the purchase price. Might find a buyer of a 10 year old Tesla, maybe, maybe not.

    100,000 USD income for a year, 250 working days, that is 400 dollars per day or 50 dollars per hour.

    Move to Midland, Texas and get a job hauling oil, there is work moving 2.1 million barrels to market every day.

    There will more than likely be about 1.5 million barrels of produced water from wells, that water has to be hauled, probably to a dry oil well.

    123 years of Texas tea ever since Spindletop gushed 75,000 bpd, the oil still flows. The law of supply and demand rules what is for sale and what is consumed.

    Oil is right up there in the number one position, hands down.

    The US exported 40 percent of its crude oil in the beginning.

    Go explore for more in other places on the planet, chances are good you’ll find some more. Saudi Arabia has oil, Russia has oil, Iran has oil, Norway has oil, Libya has oil.

    The big picture says there is plenty of oil and it is in demand all of the time. Industrial scale, even.

    Can’t build an hydroelectric dam using horses and wagons, you will need machines with engines, that means oil.

    Ships at sea use oil, trains, planes, automobiles, trucks, and motorcycles. Tanks in Ukraine need oil and fuel, Russian tanks, the same. If you want a modern fighting force, oil will be the answer.

    Carbon dioxide emitting everywhere in a war zone, it’ll be your fault.

    It is a fool’s errand to try and stop oil.

    There will be plenty of resistance, that you’ll see.

    • I wish you were right about “plenty of resistance” but it seems there is none. The other interesting thing is the way they’re doing it by slowly dismantling the infrastructure around oil. Like now the UKs last oil refinery is now due to shut down next year….. and hardly anyone has noticed… or the north see oil drilling has been run to the ground by taxes and regulation – yet the only time it comes up in the media is when the government wisely wants to tax them more…..

    • First of all, let’s get rid of the term “fossil fuels”.
      Naturally-occurring hydrocarbons are “abiotic”.
      Hydrocarbon products are constantly being created deep within the earth by yet-unknown processes well below the layers that contain fossils. Keep in mind that hydrocarbons migrate upward and pass through “fossil layers” picking up remnants of “fossil” material; hence, the present-day scientists’ stupid, ignorant mistaken assumption that hydrocarbons are derived from “fossils”.
      Oil interests are drilling wells at 5,000 feet, 10,000 feet, and 15,000 feet and deeper, and coming up with oil deposits well below the layers and levels where “fossils” were known to exist.
      As Russia gained much expertise in deep-well drilling and coming up with oil deposits far deeper than that of the level of “fossils”, abiotic oil at extreme depths was actually a Russian “state secret” for a long time.
      “Peak oil” and “fossil fuels” are discredited dishonest concepts that environmentalists and others are latching on to, in order to display their hatred of oil being a renewable resource as well as to push prices up.
      Follow the money.
      Naturally-occurring hydrocarbons have done more to advance civilization than any other influence. It is the discovery, creation and utilization of ENERGY that propels civilizations upward and onward.
      We have more oil underneath our feet than the rest of the world. In fact, we became energy independent under Trump. That trend was reversed with the Biden regime.
      In fact, one of Saturn’s moons (Titan) is primarily composed of hydrocarbons (without “fossils”).
      For a good treatise on abiotic oil, please google L. Fletcher Prouty. He is a scientist who gives a good explanation of “abiotic oil”.

      • I forgot about Venezuela and the Orinoco Basin, pardon me. An estimated trillion barrels of oil that somehow got there over millions of years.

        The Athabasca Tar Sands up in northern Alberta has oil coming out of Canada’s ears, just steam pressure the tar sands, voila, oil.

        The Bakken Formation across Manitoba, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, has an estimated 500-900 billion barrels of oil, all recoverable according to the research by the petrochemist Leigh Price.

        Europa has natural gas, Saturn has hydrocarbons, reddit commenters say Fletcher is a kook, a fraud, out in left field.

        One carbon atom and four hydrogen atoms fuses into natural gas.

        How’d carbon get there to begin with? Kind of a mystery, seems to be. Hydrogen, where’d that come from? Space? Probably, where’d space come from?

        Anyone? Bueller?

        Eight carbons and 18 hydrogens measure octanes.

        C8H18, you’ll smoke those tires.

        Eight carbons, eight cylinders, whoddathunkit?

        You’ve got some high octane, everybody along Gasoline Alley knows that.

        The V8 will be dancing to 128ths notes!

        There are coal beds so deep in the lithosphere out in Montana that they will never be mined.

        It’s the Treasure State, you know.

        Oil pools at ground level, coal beds are exposed at ground level.

        A lightning strike will start a coal bed on fire that will burn for years.

        It’s gotta be a war on oxygen, the ultimate culprit.

        Causes too much combustion! Kill oxygen!

        What does the suffix connote?

        • Never mind that both Jupiter and Saturn could be considered more cold brown dwarf “stars” rather than “planets” as we commonly think of. There’s hypothesis that each contains a rocky or metallic core not much bigger than the “Oith”, but no explanation as to why these gas giants developed such massive atmospheres. Indeed, there no real PROOF that their respective cores are that much different than the Sun or most dwarf stars in terms of “,metallicity”. I’m not aware of any comprehensive radar imaging of either gas giant or what that survey could actually tell us. Indeed, their extensive moon systems may render them more dwarf stars with their own unique “planetary” systems. Just as Earth and Luna might be more considered a dual planet system.

  16. “[H]ow is it that there’s no rictus of outrage emanating from the craws of people who bought EVs and are having to deal with losing range every year they own their device?”

    Because we live in a Bernaysian PR world were everything is controlled through fake stories, social media algorithms and the lugenpresse. Given this propaganda headwind, it takes a long time for the truth to finally emerge.

    • Effectively any criticism of the EV Fatwas is silenced or discredited. Soon criticism of the “Dear Leader” will go from being ignored into an actual crime against the State.

    • This is probably a domestic automaker PR piece to ban cheap Chinese cars, but it does give one pause. It seems to me that any product could be “weaponized” if it can be remotely controlled.

      How about if we just have products that are not remotely controlled, like all products before about 2007 (or so)?

    • As Mister Liberty points out, the linked article serves an anti-China agenda.

      Fact is, all connected vehicles already are weaponized as spy devices. Remote kill [sic] switches are mandated beginning in 2026. Likely they embody multiple meanings of the k-word, from bricking the vehicle to lane-departuring it into an oncoming semi.

      Protect your privates: shun connected tech.

    • It amazes me how many people (not accusing you, Hans) are cheering for Israel’s tactics of detonating pagers and walkie-talkies. Is it morally acceptable to maim and kill anyone in the vicinity of these guys? War crimes are being committed to thunderous applause.

      When they detonate the devices of all red state conservatives, bet your ass much celebrating will occur. “They are bad people, they had it coming. Sorry about all the dead kids.”

      The enemy of my enemy is not my friend. I hate equally all governments.

  17. Peoples benign acquiescence of cultural decline is strange but ubiquitous. My previously strong belief in the innate intelligence and deep value of the individual by most people was turned upside down during covid. They just did as they were told, regardless of the nonsensical nature of the decrees. Maybe it was easier not to question but I expected more outrage and pushback. Thinking and reasoning takes a lot of effort as well as an intense desire to always strive to be the best, to never give up even when you are down even when you fail, and to value individual freedom above all else. I just don’t see much evidence of that in my daily life. This does not bode well for the future of our society.

    • So true.

      I’m completely baffled by what I observed.

      I keep hearing of people that were “forced” to take the vaccine.

      Nope, they were forced to stand up for themselves and their own bodily autonomy. . . They failed.

      • You raise a good point, BID. It would sure go a long way if the populous would grow a set and say no their own abuse.

        With that said, I do recall a disgusting video of a girl with downs syndrome being physically forced against her will by police to get the jab. That was likely brought on by a guardian “consenting on her behalf” though. Other than this, I can’t recall anybody literally being forced to take the jab.

      • Yes…and no.

        It was heavily implied that everyone’s jobs, civil rights, and ability to function in society were being made contingent of vaxx acceptance. Can you blame people if they believed that?

        I agree, more people should have stood I and said “NO!” I did, although I was not able to stand up as forcefully as I wanted to against the mask part.

        If more people had done so, more forcefully, and sooner, pushback would have been much easier and much more effective. A lot of them might have been caught off guard. We got to where we are, regardless. I think a lot of people still fail to understand the debt of gratitude that they owe to the refuseniks.

        What’s important now, is recruiting more refuseniks and getting ready for whatever is in store for Round 2.

        • Ah, but how could one argue against “THE SCIENCE”? The substitution of Dogma over anything resembling “Science”, as the measures to counteract the Phony Coof threat convenient masked Election FRAUD.

    • Most of the rebelliousness during COVID was quiet rebelliousness. I myself just went on as normal, waiting for anyone to accost me or demand something of me. It rarely happened. When it did, I left no misconceptions about what was going to happen if pushed.

      I have a feeling most of the good people took the same stance.

      There was no benefit to putting myself out on the street corner preaching to passers-by to take off the mask or refuse the jab. I, like may others, took care of my personal business, uncompromisingly, and made sure my family was also unharmed.

      I really believe that there is nothing you can say to an NPC to make them become people. At any given time, there are probably about 10% of the population capable of independent thought and actions. Always has been this way, probably. Just human nature.

      History has shown that 10% (or even 1%) can be enough to mount an effective resistance when necessary. All is not lost.

  18. This story kinda sounds like the propaganda we heard about the “Safe and Effective COVID vaccines”. At first corporate media & the government pushed a narrative of “100% Effective!”, and shortly afterward, it was “95% Effective!”, then “90% Effective!”, and so on, until it became too obvious that was all lies, and then shills for Big Pharma and their COVID “vaccines” started making excuses. Excuses such as “It’s the fault of Anti-vaxxers!”, “You’ll need __ boosters!”, etc.

    Will someone make excuses for the 1-2% yearly drop in the range of EV batteries? Possible BS narratives might include how it’s the fault of people who refuse to give up their gas vehicle for an EV. Or someone out there may even concoct an EV battery “booster” and push that, which could be expensive.

  19. That 1-2% isn’t linear either. Once the cells begin to degrade some will go faster than others. At some point the pack will show a full charge (and appear to charge as normal), but as soon as you accelerate it will shut down due to under-voltage as the weak cells put a resistance across the still-good cells. Then that’s it. Time for a new battery.

    I’ve flown drones longe enough to see this happen. Props spin up, voltage correct for takeoff, then as soon as I throttle up the drone would climb about 3 feet into the air and drop like a stone with multiple caution and warning messages. Just one day, that was it for the battery. On a drone you can usually replace batteries pretty easily. In a car?

    • I agree cell phone batteries are the same. I have had the same phone for 14 years. I have replaced the battery several times. They die slowly at first then all of a sudden. Towards the end will show a 80-40% charge for a little while, then when it hits 30% voila drops almost immediately to 0.

      • At least you CAN replace yours. Somehow the manufacturer hasn’t made them “unobtainium”. The last three have been “integrated”, meaning there are no replacement batteries to be had, and it’d be all but impossible to disassemble the phone and put it all back together even if you could find one. “Sail Gawns” are THROWAWAYS.

  20. I had a plug-in hybrid (Volt) and after a few years of that made me realize I never wanted full EV unless it was just an around town beater (which is not practical given EV/battery costs). The advertised range of my hybrid was 54 miles on electric and I never was able to hit that number. Most of the time not even close. Worst was 17 miles in the winter on the highway. I never owned a car that I couldn’t meet or beat the advertised MPG.

    • Hi Brush,

      Yup. I’ve mentioned before that every TDI diesel VW I test drove (which was all of them) exceeded the advertised mileage. Not only that, they’d continue to take you the same distance after 15-20 years of driving because the diesel engine doesn’t lose its ability to take you “x” miles as it ages.

  21. These EV contraptions are becoming quite the soap opera nowadays.
    From annihilating depreciation, to car manufacturers on the verge of insolvency to the absolute terror of having one stored inside a garage.

    Here’s a new one…
    https://youarecurrent.com/2024/09/16/ev-fire-presents-unique-challenges-for-carmel-fd/amp/

    And now not only is that EeeeVeee totaled, but so are all the other customers vehicles that were in that garage that are now filled with toxic lithium off-gasses.

  22. Around here (Austin suburbs) he crowd who used to lease BMW X5s and turn them in before the engines went ‘splody are the same demographic driving the Teslas, probably also leased.

    Three years and out. 1-2% per year doesn’t matter to them.

    The people *buying* the EVs they can’t afford are turning to Turo or driving for Uber Eats/Doordash/Favor to try and make the numbers work. The vehicles will be kaput long before the range decrease becomes an issue.

    • Hi Roscoe,
      Regarding leasing I saw an article that said Tesla is leasing their EV’s for $20/month so the dealers can “clear their lots”. Clear their lots….to make room for more EV’s that they also won’t be able to unload 😆.

      • Tesla doesn’t have dealers with floorplans desperate enough to clear vehicles that they will attempt to sell $20/month lease paper. I’m guessing that’s a Volkswagen or Nissan dealer.

    • The same virtue-signaling libturds that grocery shop at Whole (Paycheck) Foods because they’ve been hoodwinked into believing they’re “saving the planet”. They have their overpriced “sustainable” foods put into reusable Hemp shopping bags. Do they ever TIP the wage slave box boy? What do you THINK?

  23. Eric: “39 to beam up.”

    Hold on, you mean they never made it to the comet?

    As for worn out batteries; if you look at cordless tools and how you pay a small fortune for new batteries and notice that Amazon “seems” to have batteries for half the price of the Home Despot it doesn’t take you long to wonder if they’re counterfeit knockoffs (YouTube has a video about this).

    So why am I bringing this up? If you think those EVs’ are catching fire a lot now just wait until their battery packs are counterfeited as well.

    • Indeed, Landru!

      A compounding factor will be age and hard use. No matter how well “boxed” they are, EV batteries will be subjected to stresses imparted by pothole strikes (thousands over a period of years) as well as widely ranging temperature differentials, moisture, etc. Gas tanks may eventually rust (if steel) or crack (if plastic) but a 400 volt battery is another thing entirely.

      • The marine environment of the Florida Peninsula is particularly brutal on things electrical, electronic, and, most importantly, plastic.

        Coast or inland, it doesn’t matter. Ask an AC contractor in Orlando.

    • This is an important point. Just as the knockoff replacement headlights for my the 24-year-old Sierra from chyyyyna didn’t meet form/fit/function as the OEM, one should fully expect knockoff EV batteries to do the same.

  24. From experience of someone close – BIL got a model 3 under a very tax efficient company car scheme about 4 years ago (may have discussed here before). It was the long range version with 340 miles of range.

    Today it does a max of 220-240 range on the gauge – with BIL really needing to charge it within 200 miles… And this is from a very lightly driven car (him/wife are very relaxed drivers), with around 20k miles, mostly in and around London / Surrey (very moderate weather). Now it’s a company car so he can send it back and get another / exchanged / whatever, but he couldn’t really be bothered because hes not really a car guy and it serves him well as most of his drive is well within the range…. But if I paid over 55K GBP for that I’d be pretty pissed….

    • Now it’s a company car so he can send it back and get another / exchanged / whatever

      “Transportation as a Service,” the holy grail of automakers. Just pay a “low” monthly fee to Ford or VW-Audi, and they’ll keep you moving.

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