Congestion Pricing is Working!

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That’s according to CNN, of course.

Of course, “working” means one thing to CNN – and something else to the working and middle-class people who are being priced out of driving their cars to work, as is happening in New York City courtesy of the same woman who insisted wearing surgical garb outside of the operating room “worked” to ward off viruses you.

That would be the current governor of New York, Kathy Hochul. She came to the rescue of besieged commuters by making it too expensive for them to commute.

She imposed congestion pricing.

Of course, she did not put it quite that way. Instead, the program is called congestion relief. It’s the difference between being injected with God-only-knows what was in those needles – and being vaccinated.

On top of already paying for the roads they use at every fill-up, via the motor fuels taxes that are supposed to be used to pay for the maintenance of existing roads and the building of new roads, to ease congestion – people who wanted or needed to drive into New York City during “peak” times (meaning during normal business hours) must pay another $9 each time they drive into the city. That’s one Hell of a driving surcharge on top of the 66.2 cents drivers already pay on top of what they pay for every gallon of gas they buy in New York state.

That’s about $10 in gas taxes on every 15 gallon average-car fill-up. Add another almost $10 to that – every day you drive into the city – and it becomes too expensive to drive into the city.

And that is how “congestion” is “relieved” in New York.

Soviet supermarkets operated on the same principle. They were often empty of customers – who could not afford to buy what wasn’t there anyhow. This is how apparatchiks such as Hochel solve problems. Of course, the solutions they impose are never imposed on themselves. Hochel will not be taking public transportation into the city anymore than Stalin shopped at the empty government stores where there was nothing to buy anyhow. Hochel – being a high-up apparatchik – has a government-issued (and taxpayer subsidized) ride that isn’t public. And she also enjoys a $250,000 per annum salary as the head apparatchik of the state of New York.

So she does not sweat the cost of another $9 per day to be driven into the city. Especially since she doesn’t have to pay for that, either. Apparatchiks don’t pay for such things.

The proletariat pays for them.

The same people already paying about $10 in motor fuels taxes to maintain the roads and build new ones to relieve congestion (ostensibly the justification for motor fuels taxes) on every 15 gallon full-up who are now stuck with another bill from the apparatchiks for $9 on top of that each time they drive into the city as punishment for the insolence of wanting to use the roads they already paid for.

That would be the honest way to describe “congestion relief.” Just as it would have been more honest to tell people that whatever-was-in-those-syringes wouldn’t prevent their getting or giving the bogeyman virus – but it might make them feel a little better (if it didn’t give them myocarditis). Of course, that wouldn’t have sold as well. Which is why things such as whatever was in those syringes – and “congestion relief” – are marketed they way they are.

But it looks like relief may be coming to besieged New York drivers who’ve been relieved of their money (twice) as well as their economic ability to drive into the city ever since the mulcting went into effect earlier this year.

According to CBS News, “President Donald Trump and New York Gov. Kathy Hochul have spoken twice in the past week about ending congestion pricing tolls in the city.” CBS says that “Hochul tried to convince him the program is making a big difference in New York, not only raising much-needed cash for the area’s aging transportation system, but reducing traffic and speeding commutes.”

Take note of the “much needed cash part.”

But that is only a part of this enserfment scheme. The key part is pushing private cars off the roads – at least, those owned by working and middles class proles – and their drivers into government (it is marketed as “public”) transportation, such as trains where “immigrants” push people onto the tracks and sometimes light people on fire, too. In order to put those woking and middle class people onto the  government’s schedule.

 

 

Congestion pricing – whoops! congestion relief – is not a new idea nor is it Hochul’s idea. It is the idea of the apparatchik class that incandescently hates the “chaos” (meaning, uncontrolled by them) of millions of individual proles driving their own cars on their own schedule. Such freedom of mobility for the masses – rather than “congestion” – is the real problem and exorbitantly taxing every trip is how the apparatchik class solves it.

The very affluent – and the very connected – get the roads to themselves. 

“America’s economy relies on New York City, and New York City relies on public transit-  that’s why Gov. Hochul will always advocate for funding the commuter rail, subways and buses that fuel the economic growth of the greatest city in the world,” reads a statement issued by one of Hochul’s apparatchiks. 

But if “New York City relies on public transit,” then why is it necessary to congestion price drivers into it? The answer is obvious. People want to drive their own cars into the city – to work and back – because they do not want to “rely on public transit” and have to deal with mumbling schizophrenics and government’s schedules. 

Especially since they have already paid to not have to endure such things.

Trump appears to understand – and says he opposes – the injustice of such things. It’s a big part of the reason why he was preferred by the majority in “our democracy” this last (s)election. He appeared to be the least-worst of the two choices we were allowed.

And – just maybe – he’ll turn out to have been a better-than-worse one.

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  2. Looks like Trump has terminated the congestion pricing in NYC, at least for now. Rescinded the federal approval that of course Biden regime gave.

  3. New York = the next Detroit. When it falls, it’s going to be fast and big. It’s been in decline for decades, limping along on funds from the rest of the state and the rest of the country, even though it has a massive economy and wealth (All eaten up by corruption and bureaucracy. It’s a giant hole into which the rest of the nation pours money, and except for the corrupt politicians and their contributors, it consumes the fortunes of the middle class and the rich alike.
    Now it’s in uber-decline, as it has become a giant third-world slum that attracts the rabble from all overs the world, and bends over backward to accommodate the most inept, shiftless and corrupt. It’s a giant toilet that needs to be flushed but never is; so it is overflowing and will finally meet it’s end when it is finally buried by the excrement -which should be long. Hochul is the queen turd blocking the drain.

    • And let us not forget: Trump hails from the midst of NY, where he was thoroughly conversant and at-home with it’s politics and corruption. (You play their game, or you don’t get anywhere, and lose your fortune).

  4. These tolls also drive out even more small businesses both retail and other services as people pick other places to do those things to avoid the costs. I don’t see many media players covering these businesses as they go away..

    I live in Indiana, and REPUBLICANS are proposing to toll ALL the interstates in this state……. It’s been proposed before and killed, but here it is AGAIN rearing its ugly head again…

    If it happens they will likely lease them out to the really terrible operator of the Indiana Toll Road, which manages to run it even worse than the state itself did back in the day.

    • Hi Rich,

      Most Republicans – especially Republican politicians – are Leftists who want to pretend they are “conservative.” In fact, they are generally greedheads who care about money (usually other people’s) as much as Leftists care about power.

      They each serve the others’ interests.

  6. Another huge problem of any unmanned toll collecting, i.e. license plate readers that end up sending you a bill in the mail, is that you don’t know what you owe or how many charges you have until weeks, months, or even years later. I hate when they takr away the pay-by-cash in-person tolling, because at least that way you know immediately what it cost and you are done paying.

    One time I used the Chesapeake bay bridge in October 2020 (this was after they took away the manned toll booths), and I got a bill for it in November 2023. Outrageous that it took so long, and there should be a statute of limitations between the time it takes your license plate picture and the time you get the bill.

    • TxTag mailed a ten-dollar toll invoice to the wrong address. Never saw it. Months later, I got a bill with eighty dollars of penalties tacked on, after it already went to collection.

      Thrice I demanded a copy of the original invoice, to prove it was sent to an undeliverable address. The collector couldn’t produce it. They aren’t used to people like me, who CONFRONT, COMPLAIN, and THREATEN THEM BACK.

      Now, like whipped curs, the collectors have gone silent. Just don’t incur my wrath again, cringing flunkeys.

    • The extended delays (weeks, months, years) in notifying drivers of alleged violations also serves to frustrate those whose dashcam videos would have provided proof of the absence of any violation.

  8. Even before congestion pricing I went into effect in NYC, it cost me a fortune to get there; whether I took the bus from my city to NYC or drove myself, I was out at least $55-$60. If I took the bus, I had to park in the parking garage there, pay the bus fare, then pay the subway or bus fare once in NYC. The parking garage would cost at least a few dollars. If I drove there, then I had to pay for gas, tolls, and parking. Gas was $15-$20, easy. The tolls would depend on what part of NYC I went to. If I stuck to just Manhattan vs. one of the outer boroughs, I’d only have to pay one confiscatory bridge or tunnel toll of $15 or $16; if I went to Queens or Brooklyn, then I’d have at least two confiscatory bridge and tunnel tolls. That’s on top of the NJ Turnpike tolls, which ran a few dollars each way. Then, once I was in NYC, I had to pay for parking, which will set you back a minimum of $20. No matter how you do it, getting to NYC was an expensive, time consuming PITA before congestion pricing I went in; now, it’s even more expensive!

    As for congestion pricing, they say that they’re doing it to control traffic. I’m not a fan of paying more to do something, but I don’t know what NYC is supposed to do. Traffic in NYC is a NIGHTMARE; I HATE driving there! It’s similar to driving in Washington, DC. No matter how you slice it, there simply isn’t enough road and street capacity to handle the traffic; the system is overloaded. I don’t know what big cities like NYC are supposed to do about their traffic problems. By raising the price to drive in NYC, the gov’t may make a dent in the problem and raise some extra money.

    HOWEVER! However, public transit leaves something to be desired. Subway crime is an issue. There was that homeless woman who was burned alive by an illegal alien back in December. There was the video clip of the bum (that’s what we USED to call homeless people-bums!) taking a dump in the mop bucket. Why couldn’t he have used one of the bathrooms in the station? Even if crime weren’t an issue, public transit isn’t as convenient as driving yourself. The subway stop may not be near your place; you may have to walk to it. Then, there’s the matter of schedule; you have to plan your trip on their schedule, not yours.

    In closing, I don’t know what NYC and other big cities are supposed to do. There’s only so much room for cars in terms of parking and traffic capacity of the streets. All I know is that the status quo isn’t working.

      • I started to read that Mises piece you linked to, and in the first answer Mr. Block talks about “peak load pricing”. Gee, sounds like congestion pricing to me! In either case, a greater fee is being charged for using a road during peak hours.

        • There’s more to it than that. One thing, is not like the other.

          Fer example: if you didn’t have to pay a road tax on your fuel, would the peak load pricing be such an issue?

          The zoning article touches on ‘the why’ you’re even going there in the 1st place.

          “White Plains is still a town, but it is no longer a community.”

          Big subject, little comment box.

          • I realize that there are different topics here; the thing is that any one of them would take a book to discuss in detail, e.g. zoning. Zoning goes back to the Euclid decision. Then, there’s the question about how zoning impacts property rights. How are property rights balanced vs. keeping certain things separate. For example, do you want an ammunition or explosives factory in your neighborhood? Who gets to decide? And so on.

  9. CA has a nice racket going too. We pay $0.681 per gallon in state tax. This is what is supposed to pay for road maintenance. Our leaders, being thieves, used this money for other purposes, so the roads are in awful shape.

    Their solution is “express lanes”. They took away 1-2 lanes from our most important highways and put in electronic tolling, so you have to pay to use those lanes. The prices are extortionate. Where I live, in the SF Bay Area, it costs about $35 to pay all the tolls to go 25 miles from my house to the airport. The reduced capacity of the normal lanes leads to huge traffic jams. Lots of state employees don’t have to pay these tolls to get to work, and now they’re talking about making it “free” for teachers to use those lanes. The number of privileged people will grow over time, naturally.

    Our state government is also vilifying the evil rich oil companies and gas stations. Most people are blissfully unaware that the local gas station, which is independently owned, makes about $0.05/gallon. The oil company and refinery makes less than $0.10.

  10. Seems NY has learnt from London. First our “congestion charge” and now our “Ultra Low Emission Zone” charge to all of greater London. Forced on us by a mayor who roams around in a taxpayer funded Range Rover Sentinel (with the glorious supercharged V8). It’s a car so exclusive us plebs cant even ask the price unless we are pre-approved by the government….. Good luck to you Americans pushing back….

    • Yep. I first learned about London’s “congestion charges” on a Top Gear episode about 12 years ago (the one with Jeremy Clarkson riding in a Peel P50). Ever since then, I KNEW it was only a matter of time before that shit made its way “across the pond”!

      Because, you know, “progress”!

    • NYC appears to be too dangerous for its own good…

      The only logical thing to do is take off & nuke it from orbit…to eliminate the threat!

    • NYC itself is defective in many ways…

      New York City is the epitome of citizen disarmament whose residents have been taking it for a very long time…and apparently liking it.

      Since the Sullivan Laws were enacted, enabling the most extreme and restrictive limits on the acquisition and uses of firearms, the Constitutional right to defend one’s self and others has been almost totally obliterated.

      Once restricted to handguns, the laws have been extended to rifles and shotguns, all of (what were supposed to be “registered”) demanding that they either be confiscated or taken out of NYC.

      I’ll bet that those people who voluntarily turned in their weapons added to NYC police officers’ gun collections.

      NYC prosecutors relish the thought of prosecuting those who legally defend themselves, even a “rolled up newspaper” is considered to be an illegal “weapon”.

      The honest citizen is the easiest person to charge and convict.

      If you defend yourself successfully against a criminal without NYC police being involved, you WILL be prosecuted.

      Witness Daniel Penny who was being viciously prosecuted for saving fellow subway passengers from mentally ill Jordan Neely who had been harassing and threatening subway passengers for decades. Thankfully he was acquitted of all charges.

      The case of the bodega owner, Jose Alba who successfully thwarted a knife attack, his attacker succumbing to his injuries, was under indictment and prosecution for murder until a groundswell of opposition forced the prosecutor to back off on prosecuting him.

      The case of Bernie Goetz, the subway rider who thwarted being robbed by dispatching three of his attackers to the “hospital”. Subway crimes dropped dramatically after that act. If Goetz had kept his mouth shut, no one would have been the wiser.

      What kind of society prosecutes the victim of a crime?

      It happens in NYC all the time.

      You see, the approximately 36,000 NYC police officers constitute a powerful lobby and do not want to give up their monopoly on the use of force.
      They cannot have their monopoly on the use of force jeopardized by allowing honest citizens to provide for their own self-defense by “taking the law into their own hands”.

      Let’s not forget the jewish chabad tunnels underneath NYCs most prominent synagogue which NYC authorities filled in destroying evidence of child sacrifice and abuse. Blood-stained child-size mattresses, toddler high chairs and other child items were discovered in these tunnels, but not documented as evidence. The jews have such a stranglehold on NYC that they can do no wrong. If not for the child sacrifice and torture, observing jews scurry like rats from underneath NYC streets made for first-rate comedy.

      Despite having relatives who live in NYC, I will not visit or enter NYC. This also applies to New Jersey.

  12. “America’s economy relies on New York City”
    She should move to D.C since she has the utter bald-faced lying working so well.
    If NYC were wiped off the map tomorrow, the economy of America would prosper.
    With Wall Street gone, the American people they have robbed for a century would benefit tremendously.
    It has been 50+ years since anything of value has been produced in NYC.

  13. NYS and NYC are running out of money, having chased many investment and financial firms to Miami, and having sent so many wealthy residents to other states. This is a sign of desperation for them. They voted for it, I hope they choke on it.

    • Its nice to see places that are run by faggots collapsing on their own petard. The enrichment they demanded through diversity and low expectations, is finally bearing its true fruit.

      To be fair, the people of NYC probably didn’t vote on it. It happened through stolen elections vis a vi the OG Tammany Hall, Boss Tweed BS. The MSM media does such a good job convincing us of the 5O/5O lie. The country isn’t really evenly divided. Liberalism is a dying ideology only kept on life support by lying media, fake elections, a decrepit old political class, and unlimited fiat currency.

      I just don’t see GenZ and Minis being leftists forever. Most I encounter are on the transformative journey from heart to brain. It’s just taking some of them longer than it took us.

      The only way leftist ideology survives is if Trump bails these scummy locales out. Doing so would prove he truly has switched from D to R. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, is the primary pillar of the last 3O years of [R]hino fecklessness .

      • New York State is very beautiful, and one of my favorite things to do is drive up the Taconic Parkway with no homes, billboards, or lights in sight for a hundred miles. Amazing in the fall and winter. Unfortunately, the political machine of such a large state is controlled by pockets of leftist pukes in the City, Westchester county (ultra rich enclave), Rockland country and Buffalo. It’s the urbanistas, hipsters, mega-millionaires, and wealthy Leninist Jews that always vote for the likes of Hochul, Cuomo, Schumer and other assorted pieces of shit.

        • It the same here in Az. Although we haven’t had a hundred plus years to perfect the cheating. I strongly believe that even in the enclaves you mentioned thats where the split is close to 5O/5O. Outside that, in the rural enclaves its not even close. 2O2O opened my eyes about elections, the same as this USAID thing has about the media.

          Anyone against same day, in person, ID verified voting might as well just say they are for fraud and cheating. Just as anyone against accounting of GovCo $$$ should be looked at as a part of a RICO criminal conspiracy against we taxpayers.

        • Rockland County, where I spent a pleasant 13 years, lacks the population (340,000) to match the political pull of Long Island (2.9 million).

          But Rockland and Orange counties are where you’ll find a couple of bizarre, insular, self-governing Haredi city-states. They cast thousands of votes en bloc, according to the dictates of their rebbe who cuts corrupt deals with the boodling local politicos.

          As major consumers of welfare and fraudulent property tax breaks (every home a shul!), they pose a budding demographic and financial disaster for the goyim they parasitize.

  14. RE: “would only work if a place were HOT, HOT, HOT”

    congestion pricing = cover charge. People only stand in lines and pay a cover charge if a place is HOT, HOT, HOT.

    Would anyone pay a cover charge to get into a Walmart? …I guess they do to get into Sam’s Club, in the form of a membership charge. Sam’s keeps out the mop bucket poopers.

    Anyway, RE: “And – just maybe – he’ll turn out to have been a good one.”

    Perhaps, consider this red flag:

    “… there is no bigger ongoing battel for lovers of freedom than the battle taking place over the freedom killing idea of digital ID. CAF warns, “The greatest immediate danger is digital ID. The Trump Administration is pushing digital ID.”…

    https://usawatchdog.com/greatest-immediate-danger-is-digital-id-catherine-austin-fitts/

    “The sheep spend their whole lives fearing the wolf, only to be eaten by the shepherd” said someone

  15. NY/Albany is a corrupt, grifting, mess which will never be repaired without Federal intervention or collapse.

    Just look at the NYS Thruway. They sold it to the public with tolls to pay for a 40 year bond – which was paid off in the late 90’s. What happened to the tolls? They continue on.
    The NYS Thruway remains a poorly maintained, 2-lane relic from the 1960s.
    Compare it to the rest of the multi-lane, modern interstate system seen in other states – most which are toll-free.
    Nobody really knows where the toll money goes. Some of it goes to support a long useless Erie Canal.

    It’s a microcosm of government as a whole.
    NY needs to replace the state motto of “Excelsior” with “A long train of abuses and usurpations.”

    • Hi Flip,
      Same thing happened here with the Mass. Turnpike, the bonds were paid off and the tolls were supposed to end. The legislature in a panic sold a bunch more bonds to keep the tolls going and to have those patronage jobs available. Not sure what the justification was, sure it was BS anyway but ironically there aren’t any more toll takers since all the tolling is automated now. Good bye patronage jobs.

      • I suspect the public union grift in NY is equally successful in MA.
        If any industry should be automated (I’m not defending tolls), it should be all the government slobs that don’t do anything productive.
        Pencil pushing, ball breaking, DMV-esque clerks everywhere.
        Instead, they get union mandated smoke breaks every 1/2 hour for their 9-5 and 20-30yr Cadillac retirements – thanks in part to the endless tolling.
        Hopefully all the government goons are enjoying their President’s Day holiday vacation, while the private sector does all the work today.

  16. Kathy Hochul is the same person who spoke at a church a few years ago & told the congregation that the COVID vaccines were a “gift from God” and that “God wants you to take them.” I can’t say I’m surprised that she tries to frame this congestion pricing scheme in New York City as a GOOD THING.

    I can only imagine what her approval rating is compared to another Governor who effectively rules as a Queen, current Oregon Governor Tina Kotek. There was a story not too long ago indicating that Kotek was the MOST UNPOPULAR governor in the whole country. Her predecessor, Kate Brown, was also ranked most unpopular governor in the country after she ruled as a queen at the height of COVID hysteria.

  17. West of New York City, different railroads were built in the mid 1800s — the Pennsylvania, the Erie, the Delaware Lackawanna & Western [the latter two merged in 1960]. These railroads, bankrupted, got taken over by Big Gov in the late 1960s.

    It only took 150 years after their founding to enable transfers between the two legacy railroads at Secaucus junction, opened in 2003. From where I used to live in the northwestern suburbs, rail commuters still have to transfer to a different train at Secaucus or Hoboken to enter Manhattan — adding time and hassle to the urban rat race.

    Commuter trains on the old Pennsy line (e.g. the Morris and Essex line) use two single-track tunnels under the Hudson River that were opened in — wait for it — 1910. The tunnels got flooded by Hurricane Sandy in 2012, meaning that corrosion is now eating away their concrete lining. The Hudson Tunnel project to build new tubes might be completed a few decades from now … or not.

    https://www.amtrak.com/hudson-tunnel

    How can a great city operate on obsolete, rotting 115-year-old infrastructure? It can’t. New York state went communist nearly a century ago, when it bankrupted the privately-owned subways with the nickel fare, then seized them. Soon afterward, in the 1940s, the US fedgov became a sovietized national security state. It spends trillions on flashy weapons, but can’t maintain basic infrastructure in its dying cities.

    We’re the Soviets now, comrades. 🙁

    • RE: “a great city operate on obsolete, rotting 115-year-old infrastructure?”

      Years ago I saw a documentary about the aging antique drinking water aqueduct system(?) out the N.Y. City way. Stuff like: no one alive knows how to fix it or make the components needed to fix it, etc. I wonder how that went & is it still ongoing?

    • Hi Jim,
      I grew up in NJ (Westfield) and would take the train into NYC occasionally with some friends; back then the drinking age was 18 in NY so we would go to clubs in the Village. You had to transfer in Newark to get into the city, this was back in the 60’s so not sure if that’s still true. My daughter lived in Colonia NJ for a few years so we would take Amtrak to visit because that drive was a giant PITA. At that time the engineering plans for a new tunnel were completed and ready to start work but then governor fat ass Christie pulled out the rug on the whole project. Probably be done by now otherwise, but will definitely cost way more than if they had it done back then.

    • The Northeast Corridor Line, which runs between Philly and NYC, also uses the tunnels, allowing you to stay on the same train. If I took the North Jersey Coast Line to and from the shore or the Raritan Valley Line from my last residence in NJ, I had to transfer to the PATH or something.

  18. And they’re pushing for people to return to the office. So not only has the only good thing to come out of the scamdemic been upended, now they have to pay a punitive tax to do so.

    Part of me feels bad for the citizens of NYC and NY. The other part of me say, yall voted for it.

    • The return to the office you speak of is reason #45,678 why I think the whole idea of climate change is at best overblown and at worst a neo-Communist agenda.

      If you believe that CO2 emissions are a threat, the only way to reduce emissions of CO2 is to Burn Less Fuel.

      Telework is among the cheapest and easiest ways there is to Burn Less Fuel.

      But for The Powers That Be, the value of their commercial real estate investments and the desire to micromanage people beats saving the planet.

      PS: The return to the office is also a sneaky way to fire people without having to pay severance, take a hit to unemployment, and avoid bad publicity.

      • Thats a real good point. Its mildly entertaining to watch TPTB struggle against the laws of unintended consequences. Torn between their insatiable greed, and propping up their false climate change narrative, I’m sure GovCo will paper it over, making everything all right.

      • Bryce, I’m not sure what Kool aid and how much of it you drank, but there’s no such thing as climate change….it’s totally made up (((government))) disinformation.

        Unless you count fall, winter, spring & summer!!!

        • I’m speaking facetiously, of course. The point is that there’s a Marianas Trench-sized gap between what TPTB say and what they do.

    • Did they vote for it though? The Dems have had such total and complete control of the machine for so long that I don’t know if anyone else could win.

  19. Only fools, maybe knaves, take a trip to Hymietown.

    You get up every morning from your alarm clock’s warning
    Take the 8:15 into the city
    There’s a whistle up above and people pushin’, people shovin’
    And the girls who try to look pretty
    And if your train’s on time, you can get to work by nine
    And start your slaving job to get your pay     – Bachman-Turner Overdrive, Takin’ Care Of Business

    Gotta use the word ‘overdrive’.

  20. Congestion pricing creates an incentive for induced scarcity, so the fee will never go away, but road capacity might, if only to ensure that the congestion that was ostensibly the reason for the fee in the first place does not go away even when a part of the traffic does.

    • Hi Stufo, that’s why they convert traffic lanes into bicycle lanes! Even though in the winter they are hardly used and lets not forget how many of the bicyclist go through red lights as the AGW’s don’t bother to ticket them.

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