The Mazda Miata roadster is very popular – and has been so since Mazda first began selling Miatas back in the late 1980s.
But not everyone wants a roadster with a soft top and just two seats. And some people want an affordable sports car that’s otherwise very much like a Miata.
While also being its own very different thing.
Enter the BRZ
What It Is
The BRZ is Subaru’s alternative to the Miata.
Both are small, two-door sports cars but the BRZ is a little larger, with four seats rather than just two – and a hard rather than soft top.
It also has a different kind of four cylinder engine; instead of four in-a-row, four laid flat, with each pair “boxing” the other from opposite side of the crankshaft.
Both are also two of the last vehicles made by their respective manufacturers that are rear-wheel-drive and come standard with manual transmissions.
The BRZ’s base price – $30,195 for the Premium trim – is slightly higher than the Miata’s base price of $28,985 but it’s not enough of a difference to make much difference in terms of what your monthly payment will be.,
It’s even less of a difference when you move up a notch to the $32,695 Limited trim – which comes standard with heated leather seats, an upgraded eight speaker audio system and a more aggressive 18-inch wheel/tire package (17s are standard with the base trim).
The mid-trim Miata with a similar roster of equipment lists for $32,485.
A top-of-the-line tS trim lists for $35,345. This version of the BRZ gets upgraded Brembo brakes and an STi-tuned suspension with Hitachi dampers, plus special blue interior contrast stitching, an upgraded digital instrument cluster and 18 inch gray metallic wheels with the same high-performance “summer” tires that are standard with the Limited.
For reference, a top-of-the-line Miata Gran Touring lists for $34,285.
Worth a mention here is that Subaru includes a limited slip rear axle as standard with all BRZ trims. This arguably essential feature (for a rear-wheel-drive sports car) is not standard with the base-trim Miata. It is also not available as a stand-alone option with the base trim Miata, either.
That means you have to step up to the Club trim ($32,485) to get it and that does establish a significant cost differential between the Subaru and the Mazda – in the Subaru’s favor.
There is also a cost differential between the BRZ and the same car sold with a Toyota badge on its hood – the GR86. The latter stickers for $29,300 and tops out at $34,72 for the TRUENO trim, which is a limited edition that has the same equipment as a BRZ tS plus a few Toyota-specific cosmetic touches.
What’s New For 2024
The tS is a new addition to the BRZ trim lineup.
What’s Good
A hardtop for those who want a sports car without the soft top.
An extra pair of seats to make up for what won’t fit in the trunk.
Like the Miata but also not a Miata.
What’s Not So Good
Back seats can’t be sat in.
LCD touchscreen audio interface is easy to accidentally touch and swipe.
BRZ is significantly thirstier than the Miata.
The BRZ and the Miata share a traditional rear-wheel-drive/short wheelbase sports car layout but each has a very different kind of engine, even though they both have four cylinder engines.
Powering the Subaru is a larger, 2.4 liter boxer engine that is not only a different type of engine than the Miata’s 2.0 liter in-line four cylinder engine, it sounds different by dint of that. And that is no small difference given how much the same other engines in most other new vehicles are – to say nothing of how literally the same the battery packs and motors are in electric cars.
The difference in sound – and power – and power delivery are also important in sport cars because sports cars are supposed to sound (and feel) different than other cars. It is one of the main reasons for sports cars, which are highly individualistic cars.
There is another difference as well.
The BRZ’s 2.4 liter engine makes more horsepower (228) vs. the Miata’s 2.0 liter engine (181) and more torque. Sooner. The larger-displacement boxer four produces 184 ft. lbs. at 3,700 RPM vs. 151 ft.-lbs. at 4,000 RPM.
This probably accounts for the difference in gas mileage – and range.
The BRZ’s city mileage is just 20 MPG. This is why it can only take you about 264 miles on a full tank of gas in stop-and-go city driving. The Miata can travel 26 MPG on the same gallon of gas in city driving – and so can take you 309 miles on a full tank. There’s a similar disparity on the highway. The BRZ’s 27 MPG is 7 MPG less than the Miata’s almost-economy-car 34 MPG and that accounts for the Mazda’s longer highway legs. It can travel 404 miles on a full tank – 12 gallons – vs. 356 highway miles on 13 gallons of gas for the BRZ.
On the other hand, both engines are the same in one way.
They both produce their peak power at a screaming 7,000 RPM and they are both high-compression engines that need premium fuel to deliver on their maximum-advertised horsepower numbers.
The BRZ and the Miata are also available an with automatic transmission, which is an interesting difference vs. almost everything else that’s available that comes standard (and only) with an automatic.
On The Road
There is a big difference in driving feel, hardtop vs. soft-top. Especially with the top down, which is something you can’t do (or experience) in a BRZ. You will not feel the wind in your hair.
But you will feel more inside.
The BRZ feels tighter. Less “in the wind” – because you are less “in the wind.”
Mazda does an excellent job insulating and fitting the Miata’s soft top, which doesn’t leak (as many soft-tops do). But it is still a soft top and there is a certain feeling that’s conjured that is different than the feeling you get with something more substantial than cloth above your head.
You’ll also see better – vs. the Miata with its top up. Because the Miata was designed to be driven with its top down. People put the top up because they have to, on account of the weather and such. The BRZ, on the other hand, was designed to be driven with its top on. So being able to see around the structure of the top was given more consideration. The Soobies’ rear glass area is probably twice as much as the Miata’s and that’s a difference you can literally see – from the inside.
None of the above is necessarily better – or worse. The point is the difference.
Another one is the sound of the Subaru’s boxer four, which has a lower-pitch/growly sound, not unlike the sound a German Shepard makes when he alerts to the presence of an intruder. The Miata’s sound is quieter at first but builds to a higher pitch as you wind out the free-revving 2.0 liter four. The BRZ’s boxer four also likes to rev freely but it is less necessary to rev it as high as often as it is in the Miata because the BRZ’s 2.4 liter four makes significantly more torque, significantly lower in the power band.
You can remain in third or fourth or fifth longer, at lower road speeds, before a downshift is needed in the BRZ. It’s needed sooner, in the Miata, in order to bring up the revs and get into the meat of the engine’s powerband.
Once again, this is not a question of better or worse but of differences.
Both cars are easy to drive (it is why the Miata is often daily-driven to work and back) but it is easier to get snappier reaction out of the BRZ’s engine with less shifting.
Both cars are also fun to drive – which is of course the main reason people buy sports cars. In particular, sports cars with manual transmission – which makes them more fun to drive than more powerful performance cars with automatic transmissions that are quicker and faster.
The driver does more driving, as opposed to just steering.
Especially while cornering. An automatic can be programmed to know you’re cornering and hold a lower gear in the corner and not upshift to the next gear until you’re out of the corner and on the gas hard again – but there is an irreplaceable, intangible fun in holding the gear yourself and upshifting to the next gear yourself, with the timing and the action performed entirely by yourself.
You may not be out in the wind, but you are one with this car – as you are in a car like the Miata. Both are unlike any other car you can still buy and either one gives you the choice to experience that difference
The BRZ is about a foot longer (167.9 inches) than the Miata (154.1 inches) and that allows for the rear seats the two-seater Mazda lacks – which is one of the things that makes the BRZ a more practical Miata. The back seats aren’t so much for passengers as they are to make up for the lack of space in the trunk – which isn’t much in either car (5.1 cubic feet in the BRZ and 4.6 in the Miata).
In the Mazda, whatever doesn’t fit in the trunk doesn’t come along – assuming you have someone sitting in the seat beside you. In the Soobie, there’s room in back for your bags, if they don’t fit in the trunk.
There’s also more in-between room in the BRZ. In the Miata, the driver and passenger sit very close to each other and if either is a bigger-than-average person, they may be rubbing shoulders. The BRZ has about 1.4 inches more shoulder room for the driver/front seat passenger (53.6 inches vs. 52.2) and if you think that’s a small difference, sit beside someone else in both cars and see what a difference it makes.
There’s also room in the glovebox the BRZ has that the Miata doesn’t. This small thing is a big thing because it gives you a convenient, easily accessible place to put small things you might not want to keep in your pocket while driving. The BRZ also has cupholders; the Miata does, too – but you have to pop them into place – and then they take up space. When in place, they extend into the passenger’s space and it’s easy to bump them with a leg or an arm and spill whatever they’re holding. The BRZ has multiple cup (and bottle) holders, too. Including a pair molded into each door panel. It’s a small thing that’s a big thing in terms of long drives – for which the BRZ is better-suited than the Miata.
And the BRZ manages to be more practical without being less fun.
Another point of similarity between these two driver’s cars is that neither has an overlarge LCD touchscreen to distract the driver from the task at hand. Probably because neither car needs something to keep the driver’s mind occupied – because neither car is boring to drive. You have things to do – and feel – so gawping at a glowing touchscreen display is an irrelevance.
This brings me to the one thing I discovered about the BRZ that falls into the I-didn’t-like-it department: It’s fairly easy to inadvertently brush one’s finger against the touchscreen’s glass while trying to touch something else – such as the volume control knob – and that can cause an inadvertent switch from whatever you were listening to (such as SiriusXM) to something you didn’t want to listen to (such as FM).
But this is greatly offset by the presence of physical knobs and buttons for most functions, end-running the need to let your fingers brush against the touchscreen.
Another thing – that’s unique to the BRZ (and its Toyota-badged twin, the GR86) is an oil filter you can reach just by popping the hood (and that can be removed and installed by hand, without using tools).
The Bottom Line
If you have always wanted a sports car – but not a roadster – the BRZ might just be the right sports car for you.
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GR86 safety features…..BRZ almost the same?….
Tire Pressure Monitor System (TPMS) *
Vehicle Stability Control (VSC), *Traction Control (TRAC), Anti-lock Brake System (ABS), Electronic Brake Force Distribution (EBD) and Brake Assist (BA) *
Seven airbags *—includes driver and front passenger Advanced Airbag System, driver and front passenger outboard seat-mounted side airbags, front and rear side curtain airbags, and driver knee airbag
LATCH (Lower Anchors and Tethers for CHildren) includes lower anchors on outboard rear seats and tether anchors on outboard rear seats
Automatic High Beams (AHB)*
Vehicle Stability Control (VSC) * Track Mode
Driver and front passenger headrests
Rear Parking Sonar with Reverse Automatic Braking *
3-point seatbelts for all seating positions; driver-side Emergency Locking Retractor (ELR) and Emergency Locking Retractor (ELR) on all passenger seatbelts
Hill Start Assist Control (HAC) *
Adaptive Cruise Control * system
Blind Spot Detection (BSD) *
Backup camera * with projected path
Anti-theft system with alarm and immobilizer *
GR86 Active Safety Suite *—includes Pre-Collision Braking System, * Pre-Collision Throttle Management, Adaptive Cruise Control, * Lead Vehicle Start Alert, Lane Departure Alert with Sway Warning System, * Automatic High Beams *
The computer wants to drive it?……
includes Pre-Collision Braking System, * Pre-Collision Throttle Management, Adaptive Cruise Control, * Lead Vehicle Start Alert, Lane Departure Alert with Sway Warning System,
Sure most of it an be disabled. Wonder about removing airbags though, gotta be a way to do that without the system noticing or caring
BRZ
DriverFocus® Driver Monitoring System (DMS)
this award-winning system utilizes a camera angled at the driver’s face and facial recognition software to monitor fatigue or lack of attention. When the driver begins to show signs of losing focus, the system sends out a helpful alert, like an automated co-driver. T
Oh snap, crackle and pop, you’re right. Wonder if it’s available on the GR86 though? Looks like I’ll consider the ‘Yota if it’s free of that
When I hear Subaru I think of the camera on the driver. Does this have that. Can it be easily removed and thrown away?
I think thats for the mainstream models
This I bet you a round or two doesnt
As I said below, I have this car, and it has none of those nanny systems, zero. It has ABS and some stability control, which can be completely turned off in track mode.
Small, light sports cars are great…and are almost gone now…
If I had unlimited money I would look for a Lancia Beta Monte Carlo Group 5 sports car….it is sort of like a track version of the famous Lancia 037 world rally championship winning car….
The Lancia Beta Monte Carlo Group 5 sports car weighed 1700 lb and had from….. 400 HP…1.5 liter Turbo…. to 525 HP..1.8 liter twin Turbo…. from their Lampredi 4 cylinder engine…
The Lancia 037 rally car had a supercharged 325 HP Lampredi engine….
Lampredi was a Ferrari engine designer who later worked for Fiat/Lancia designing engines….The Lampredi twin cam hemi was one of the best 4 cylinder engines in history…in the Lancia Delta S4 it made up to 1000 HP….It also powered the famous rally winning Lancia Integrale cars….
The Lancia Beta Monte Carlo Group 5 sports car sometimes beat the famous, dominant, Porsche 935 K3 race car…the 935 K3 weighed 2300 lb and had 800 HP….
Lancia Beta Monte Carlo Group 5 sports car….on track….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj8Y6mRQy9Y
Get a BRZ or GT86 with a blown engine and swap in a Lampredi twin cam hemi….400 HP…1.5 liter Turbo…. to 525 HP..1.8 liter twin Turbo….
The Lancia 037 rally car had a supercharged 325 HP Lampredi engine….
There is also an Fiat X/19 hillclimb car with a 320 HP 9000 RPM na Lampredi twin cam hemi…it sounds great….
Now you have pretty much a Ferrari engine powered GT86
“All show and no go.” as the old axiom goes. You can add the Scion FRS, it’s twin brother, in this same category too. They look the part of sports cars but are absolutely anemic power from these 4 bangers, was never interested in these for this reason.
The new Supra? Different issue, takes many of its cues from the timeless MKIV but with a modern twist.
WRX STI– Amazing rally car, very quick, drives like a go cart.
Miata was always kinda “meh” too. A ‘chick car’ according to the toxic masculinity standard. Fun to drive if your girlfriend had one, questionable to own if you bought it yourself. 🤷♂️
Miata was always kinda “meh” too. A ‘chick car’….
I thought so too…until I drove one…then I understood….like a little go cart..light, nimble, open top like a formula car….
they are a very popular, inexpensive track car….
One advantage for the Miata…it is 2400 lb…400 lb lighter then the BRZ/GR86….
Older gen was anemic, this ones a bit better, although aftermarket fixes the power issues.
They’re meant to be modded, that’s the beauty of them
I bought one and didnt give one flying crap about what others who did not know me thought of me.
1st year Miata. 1.6L, supercharged. I havent kept up on the latest Miata engine, but the 1st gen was the same engine as the 323 GTX Turbo sans turbocharger. All you had to do was get an aftermarket supercharger or turbocharger and bolt it on.
As someone above mentioned, you can mod til your heart’s content. Plenty of go faster, stop faster, and corner better upgrades out there.
But why the Miata is greater than most cars is that it feels good to drive them at normal speeds. Its a car one “CAN drive 55” (a reference to a Sammy Hagar song).
You’ve never driven one then. I also said this at an autocross when I had my Factory Five Shelby Cobra replica I built. It had a 5.0 Windsor with a Vortech S trim. I bought a dirt cheap ’92 Miata with 120k on it and it was so much more fun. I now have three – one of each of the first three models. I sold the Cobra to my sister and have only driven it once in 10 years although I could use it any time I want. I’ve got vintage cars with big blocks, 80s 5.0 Mustang and a 2012 Boss 302. If I could only keep one, it would be my 1993 Miata.
Hi Steve,
I’m a big fan of the Miata – and the BRZ. Both cars deliver a similar “hands on” driving experience. What I like especially about the BRZ is that it fits me better – and that it has the hard top and back seats, which means not being limited by what fits in the trunk. That said, the Miata is known to be almost unkillable. I know people who track day theirs regularly – and have for years – and the cars rarely demand more than new tires and brakes.
Any info re comparative acceleration times?
“0–60-MPH Times
The 2.4-liter is more responsive than the previous model’s 2.0-liter engine, even if it’s not enough to make the BRZ the quickest car in town. But it does improve acceleration times significantly: The Subaru BRZ we tested with the manual transmission reached 60 mph in just 5.4 seconds, nearly a full second quicker than the previous-gen BRZ tS.”
https://www.caranddriver.com/subaru/brz
Sorry, lemme throw this one in with their specs: https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a41979904/2023-subaru-brz-manual-reliability-maintenance/
C/D TEST RESULTS: NEW
60 mph: 5.4 sec
100 mph: 13.3 sec
1/4-Mile: 13.9 sec @ 102 mph
130 mph: 25.9 sec
Results above omit 1-ft rollout of 0.2 sec.
Rolling Start, 5–60 mph: 6.6 sec
Top Gear, 30–50 mph: 8.9 sec
Top Gear, 50–70 mph: 8.0 sec
Top Speed (C/D est): 140 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 162 ft
Braking, 100–0 mph: 318 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft Skidpad: 0.95 g
They might not be the same C/D as they used to be, but hey, if they provide data, its worth looking at. Also weights 2839lbs, so figure a few mods and stuff and the times decrease
I love it. I have been missing my Triumph lately – I might have to go test drive one of these.
Thanks for the review, Eric!
Hear the Toyota version is a tiny pinch more exciting, although you’d have to drive both back to back basically to notice
Either way, enjoy
Someone said Toyota…Subaru…should have made a deal with Porsche for developing, marketing this car….
…Porsche needs a cheap, light, sports car…it’s Cayman weighs 3000 lb…. the BRZ/GR86 weighs 2860 lb…..
The BRZ/GR86 needs a better engine….Porsche makes a better engine….
The BRZ/GR86 is very similar to the Porsche 924/944/968…1st gen 924…2400 lb…..944 2800 lb….except the 924/944/968 handled better….trans axle cars….
1st gen 924…2400 lb…called the better Miata…except Miata has a no roof option….
The BRZ/GR96 needs a better engine……a look inside the engine…..
Blown Subaru BRZ / Scion FRS FA20 Boxer Engine Teardown. A $3,000 + Whoopsie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLBFK1nUbf4
Old school is better….
Just buy an old Porsche 924…replace the fuel injection with up to 50 mm dual Weber two barrel carbs…add headers, higher lift cam….225 HP is possible with this engine….
Remove weight…the D production 924’s weighed 1800 lb….
225 HP and 1800 lb…a quick car that will out handle anything…..
2800 lb sports car?….forget it…..
Or engine swap a 924, tons of options that can make good power with similar weight
The original engine… is a cooler, simpler, stronger, bullet proof, engine…it is also very light around 276 lb….almost…no other engine replacement is that light…..or as strong….
Just buy an old Porsche 924…replace the fuel injection with up to 50 mm dual Weber two barrel carbs…add headers, higher lift cam….225 HP is possible with this engine….
The Weber’s are very cool…sound great…. and easy to rebuild…outlasts all new complicated injection systems on modern engines……..and no stupid, crappy, high tech, computer….
These new cars…like the BRZ, GR86, Cayman, etc… are far too complicated…simpler is better….
Except that 924 will kill you in repair costs. I have a client who is a Porsche tech – he told me its 24 hours to replace the clutch in one – and it takes all of that time.
And my old mechanic wouldn’t touch a 944 due to the electrical systems, so I presume he’s no fan of the 924 either.
Anonymous, gotta look at it as for a modern vehicle, it’s pretty close to 90s ideal but with modern power from a NA engine with the sky the limit with aftermarket , especially engine swaps, from LS to something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqHwt-LWyYU&pp=ygUcanVuIGJyeiB3aXRoIHN5bmVyZ3kgdjggMi40bA%3D%3D
24 hours….no
Clutch replacement on a 924 usually takes about 7.5 hours. A 944 will require about 9.5 hours.
the bad one…….The 944 Turbo will require 14 hours. The 944 Turbo takes longer because the turbocharger’s crossover pipe and wastegate must be removed and the exhaust system is much more complex.
924 will kill you in repair costs…..no….the new highly complex cars will though….
the 924 is a well engineered very simple car…parts are still available…if you work on it yourself you can save huge amounts of money…like any car…a 924 is simple….it can be worked on by backyard guys…they are simple and reliable, less problems…. the new cars…forget it…..
The 924S/944 parts are more expensive…but they are still a simple very analog car compared to the modern computer filled crap…crap
That’s the previous gen 2.0l vs the current 2.4. Not saying the current one is bulletproof either, but it’s improved compared to the older one with more power and torque.
Sure Toyota will approach Porsche some day, meantime, little Toyobaru is doing just fine, fills the niche that the current market lacks
Subaru WRX Turbo… FA20DIT Failed Engine Teardown….a look inside it….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r2r8yBaQI8
GR86 2.4 engine failures – a reasonable explanation- track and high Gs
This is the explanation that makes sense……. For reported engine failures on track – sticky tires that allow up to 1.5 Gs, thin OEM oil, no oil cooler, and stock oil pan.
Another theory ……can contribute to RTV as well, with a restriction from the inlet side of the oil pump. There is an argument to be made that cavitation can be formed during the oil intake process, such that small air bubbles can be pushed into the oil pump, subsequently decrease in oil pressure.
https://www.gr86.org/threads/gr86-engine-failures-a-reasonable-explanation-track-and-high-gs.8238/
Better oil, Oil Cooler, better oil pan
Always solutions to the problems, this is the 2020s and anything that is an issues on a car like this would be addressed by the aftermarket immediately.
I love Porsche as well, but these are budget Caymans as I’ve heard
Right….a great handling sports car…cheaper and lighter then a Cayman….
Cayman way too expensive…4 cylinder….$70,000…$97,000 for the nice na 4.0 Lt. flat six….and heavier…no entry level Porsche’s now….
you have to do this now…. buy an old Porsche 924…replace the fuel injection with up to 50 mm dual Weber two barrel carbs…add headers, higher lift cam….225 HP is possible with this engine….and strip down to 1800 lb….
OR, you can buy a used S with a stick and mod that as well.
I got nothing against old Porsches, but if I’m getting one, want the engine behind me, not in front. Feels weird with a front engine porsche without a flat engine
This is a car I would like to build….a Boxster with a blown engine is cheap…a 4 cylinder 1.8 Lt. 20 valve turbo Audi engine is cheap……it is one of the most tuneable engines….it makes lots of power and is very reliable/strong….
The Boxster shown here is light…2,260 lb and powerful…550 HP….
Porsche 986 Boxster – 2.1L Audi Engine Conversion
BY MOTOR WERKS RACING
Redesigned & Upgraded: 997/GT3 body with extended flares both front and rear, speedster humps & custom interior.
Now powered by our 4 cylinder, 20 valve, Turbo, 2.1 Liter Audi engine conversion. Boasting 550 hp, 425 ft. lbs torque with a 8,500 rpm rev. limit and weighing in at only 2,260 lbs.
MWR Built Audi 2.1L 20V Turbo engine with IE forged connecting rods, a modified, stroked, 1.8 turbo 20 valve engine…
http://www.motorwerksracing.com/porsche-986-boxster-engine-conversion
4 cylinder, 20 valve, Turbo, 2.1 Liter Audi engine conversion. Boasting 550 hp, 425 ft. lbs torque with a 8,500 rpm rev. limit….a good engine swap for a GR86 or a Miata….it weighs only 276 lb…lighter then a stock GR86 or Miata engine….which weigh about 300 lb….
Now we’re talking!
Audi 4 cyl. 1.8 20 vt in a Lamborghini
That is a very cool car, that engine has plenty of power for the weight of the car.
VW/Audi 1.8 20 valve turbo engine (weight 276 lb.), The VW 20 valve head is like a motorcycle design, it breathes better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsGdqZjLUeU
the VW/Audi 1.8 20vt has as great racing history, in a 924 race car it puts out 600 reliable hp. The VW/Audi 1.8 20vt is one of the best engines ever built, it has been used in race cars all over the world.
http://www.motorwerksracing.com/porsche-944-engine-conversion-18t-swap
Audi 1.8 20 valve turbo engine
https://youtu.be/Ite-eEThQnU
The Boxster shown here is light…2,260 lb and powerful…550 HP…. 4.1 lb to HP
A 911 GT2 RS is 4.6 lb to HP….
Toyota advertises this…
Designed for Circuit Day
Every facet of Toyota GR86 reflects its circuit-ready credentials. Like the strategic use of lightweight materials, wide stance, and low center of gravity. And the driver-focused cockpit, with its optimally positioned controls, and use of toggle switches, so that you can concentrate on the drive.
…but…. reported engine failures on track – sticky tires that allow up to 1.5 Gs, thin OEM oil, no oil cooler, and stock oil pan.
Ford advertised their Mustang GT350 as a track car…but…no diff oil cooler…it overheated…and engine went into limp mode on the track…they got sued…lol….
What does this thing weigh? I couldn’t find it in your article, not to say it’s not their.
2800lbs basically, give or take.
A few more hundred pounds and it’d be sluggish, but this with the updates is much better than the previous gen I’ve been told. Yeah, it’s heavier than a Miata, but you get more space and a more solid structure, basically a modern day 240sx
The BRZ is a fantastic car, we have one, a 2023 model which is basically identical. The manual transmission is really precise and direct, the engine has nice torque for that size of car and sounds unique, as Eric said. One good thing about this car is that it’s got very good visibility compared to things of the same size; like the new BMW/Supra for example. The integrated touchscreen infotainment thing is terrible, because it freezes for no apparent reason from time to time, and is really slow to respond, but you can turn it off and your HVAC controls are physical.
This car is mechanically simple. No nannies, no driver monitoring, no brake assist, even no ASS. Love it.
Really gotta test drive one.
Did you go right for the BRZ or also look at its Toyota twin?
We went straight to BRZ because my wife likes Subarus and likes the look of this car a little bit more. From a mechanical perspective, the Subaru has a more compliant suspension tuned for grip, versus the Toyota’s looser rear end designed for shenanigans.
It’s also easier to buy the Subaru where I live. Toyota dealers were charging big markups, while Subaru put our name in a queue and once it was our turn to get an allocation, we ordered the car we wanted and paid sticker for it (getting it below sticker was not possible due to the huge demand)
Gotcha gotcha.
Wanna join my buddy with his Subbie someday, he’s part of a group called Boxer Squad. Not a WRX/STI, but it’d be cool to roll with them.
Any advice or anything when it comes to ownership Eric wouldn’t have time to pick up on btw?
Nah, it’s a great car. Buy one, be nice on breakin, but once it reaches 1000 miles, change the oil and drive it like you stole it.
The one downside to this car is that the glass is far more prone to chips and cracks than any car that I’ve ever owned, but there’s really nothing you can do about that.
Remember driving an FRS back in the day, that was an experience I never forgot with how toylike and fun it is.
Small enough for me, backrow for my bags when I go places, and fast enough to wring out but not necessarily get in trouble.
Anything particularly surprise you as you drove it, Eric?
‘an upgraded digital instrument cluster’ — eric
Kinda like an upgraded polyester leisure suit … not something I really wanted, in either the standard OR the upgraded version.
How many rpms at 70 mph in top gear?
Hi Swamp,
Not sure! But I still have the car so will check that today and report back.
About 3,000.
Which is fine. They’re not top speeders and if that’s a problem, can reduce the final drive as you add forced induction
“an oil filter you can reach just by popping the hood (and that can be removed and installed by hand, without using tools).”
Sounds like they got the idea from the 4.0 L truck motor.
I thought the same thing.
For whatever reason, an old Gallagher bit popped into my head: “Why is the official car of the US Olympic Team a Subaru?”. Back then it was ludicrous and funny.
What are the differences (if any), Eric, between the BRZ and the WRX? I have never owned a Mazda (Miata) before.
Hi Shadow,
The BRZ and WRX are totally different kinds of cars – and not just because of the number of doors. The BRZ is rear wheel drive; the WRX is AWD (and it is based on a FWD-type layout). The BRZ’s engine is not turbocharged. The WRX’s is.
The WRX is a Rally car; the BRZ is a sports car!
Aaaah, thank you for the clarification. And you are correct: My old WRX is indeed an all-wheel drive, and not a rear-wheel.
What gen WRX?