It is hard to vote for the lesser of two evils when you are not into evil. This is the paradox of voting. More finely, it is the corner we’ve been painted into. Yes, of course – one can choose not to vote for evil, lesser or greater. But does it do anything to prevent the greater evil? And if it doesn’t, then isn’t effectively aiding the greater evil?
As long as the evil of voting exists – this idea that plebiscites are a legitimate way to do things that almost everyone agrees would be immoral things if done on an individual basis, such as taking what isn’t yours from someone else or threatening others with violent repercussions if they fail to do as you say – then casting a vote can be seen as an act of self-defense. A way to cancel the vote of some other person – your neighbor, perhaps – who wants to take your money but hasn’t got the guts to do it himself. Or who wants to tell you what you’re allowed to do (and not do) but is too much of a poltroon to try doing that himself, either.
But if you vote for the lesser of two evils, some argue, then you are giving sanction to everything the person you voted for ends up doing. This is silly. It is especially silly as regards actions the person you voted for has yet to perform. You do not have a crystal ball. More to the point, you cannot be held morally responsible for the actions of another – especially when you have no idea what those actions might be.
Perhaps – in the case of Trump – you are voting for him because of things he has specifically said he will do, such as staunch the flow of (literally) hordes of people from no-one-knows-exactly where into this country. That is a reasonably self-defensive vote. It does not mean you also vote in favor of other things Trump might do – or even things he has done. That latter is a non sequitur because Trump alone is responsible for what Trump chooses to do, just like the rest of us. Yes, he midwifed the “beautiful vaccines” and that was a terrible thing. But unless you actually voted for that – specifically – then how can anyone say you voted for that?
I will be voting for Trump tomorrow because I do think – I hope – he is the lesser of two evils. More finely, because I am certain of the evil of his opponents. They have told us what they intend to do – including end the Electoral College so as to assure that cities controlled by the Left control the country, the door-to-door “buyback” of firearms so as to assure we are defenseless against common criminals as well as the criminal government and the application of a federal property tax based on “unrealized gains” that will very effectively render working and middle class homeownership financially untenable.
You will also be forced out of your car – and into a battery powered device. Assuming you can afford one. There are likely to be “carbon lockdowns” and energy rationing based upon what they call your “carbon footprint.”
None of this is exaggerated or fear-mongering. They have openly let us know what they plan to do if they get the chance and that will include cementing what they do via the installation of perhaps two or even three new Supreme Court “justices” of the Jackson-Brown (oops , that’s a singer, not a communist) variety who will rule that the truth is no defense because it is “misinformation” when the government finds the truth inconvenient. Who will rule the Second Amendment does not protect the right of you or me or anyone not in the employ of government as an enforcer of some kind to possess the means of self-defense.
These are very great evils, are they not?
It is absolutely true that Trump may and likely will do evil things as well – such as lap the buttocks of Benjamin Netanyahu or whomever runs the regime of that frictious but powerful little country in the Middle East. But I am not voting for that by casting my vote for Trump anymore than I vote to keep the prison I’ll probably one day be a resident of in charge of a warden who is less sadistic than one who is more so.
That is the only choice open to us in terms of what’s on the ballot tomorrow – and I’ll vote for it without guilt and in the hope that (if he wins) Trump will prove to be not evil at all. But even if he’s only the lesser, is it still not better?
Idealists – and I am one – are naturally uncomfortable with this. But we live in a less-than-ideal world and so long as we do live in it, is it not rational – is it not reasonable – to do what can be done rather than nothing at all?
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THEY’RE LOSING IT: Unhinged Kamala Supporter and Self-Described “National Security Expert” Flips Out on Black Woman in Northern Virginia After Discovering She’s Supporting Trump
Who is voting for commie la?…white women…..and LGBQT of course….
The marketing people say…the easiest one to sell to are white women….weak minded?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/11/theyre-losing-it-deranged-kamala-supporter-self-described/
I’m not buying it. Its not the lesser, or greater of two evils. Voted for Trump twice after a long hiatus from voting. No way I’m taking another kick at the football. I know ya all can see its the same stupid bitch teeing it up. Four years ago was so obvious, nothing has changed. Is everyone going to be made a fool of,,,Again?
Not voting doesn’t represent doing nothing at all. When the winner of the so called contest is solely determined by the owners, Not voting is the only sane alternative. It wouldn’t matter if every single person voted for Trump. Who the owners want is who the owners get. Either way, I’m sure there are many more squirrels cued up for our entertainment.
Glad its almost over and we can get on with the destruction of the country we all loved. Sad for that, but glad I got to see it in all its former glory. My only hope and prayer is our collapse fizzles and goes the way the former Soviet Unions did. The rest of the world, as well as most Americans would be grateful for such an outcome.
Naomi Wolf brought up a good point in her endorsement of Trump
You should vote for President Trump because Vice President Harris failed at her only job. Her ONLY JOB…
She then pointed out the 25th amendment:
Section 4.
Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.
Of course the coup d’état that happened after Biden’s debate debacle shows just why she didn’t take action: Biden’s been submarineing her campaign all summer. Oh he can’t just come right out and say not to vote for her, but he was photographed wearing a MAGA hat for Pete’s sake! This non-story over the weekend where he insulted every Republican voter just happened to upstage Harris’ last campaign speech before the primary. And he still knows where the skeletons are in Washington, still commands a lot of honor among thieves style power. They can’t separate themselves from Biden and he knows it.
With utmost deference, Eric, but your argument in defense of voting doesn’t hold up. It’s akin to saying, “Well, they’ve given us the choice between scat sandwich on white bread or scat on wheat, so we MUST choose! It’s a lamentable choice to be sure, but better to choose the slightly-less-scat-tasting sandwich than the worse of the two.” Scat is scat, and voting for it is but a guarantee there’ll be more of it served up next time.
Hi Jason,
I am not going to speak for Eric, just myself, but even us atheists and agnostics revel in hope. We may believe in it even more than our God fearing peers because it is all that we have. Individuals that practice religion have a belief in the afterlife. They know where they are going when their time ends.
Atheists believe Heaven and Hell is found on Earth. We have but one lifetime to live. As long as there is a choice whether it be wheat or white, we have the freedom to decide. Maybe rye is our first choice, but rye isn’t an option so we select from what we have to choose hoping (there is that word again) that this prerequisite produces better choices further down the line or maybe the decision is better than we expected and we are pleasantly surprised.
On friday the 13th of October 1307 the French King Philip the Fair had the templars (the freemasons) in France arrested…he said…they are sodomists and satanists….most escaped…about 400 captured…. 50 were burnt to death…
This one of the few times in history the control group…the masters…. got their ass kicked….
“he midwifed the injections”
Some say…warp speed was a tactic…..a blocking move….
rushed out…..No fda approval…so couldn’t be mandated…forced…EUA …. emergency use only…unapproved….
but…stopped the lockdowns…there was an alternative…so ended the lockdowns….but….the alternative couldn’t be forced….
Without this play….the lockdowns would still be on….were supposed to last ten years…and destroy all small businesses….camps would be full now….
https://stopworldcontrol.com/fema/
Tomorrow will be another sunny Tuesday for me. I will go to work, eat dinner, not turn on the TV, and will enjoy the day the Lord has made. I will not sully my conscience by participating in this circus. Evil is evil, Lesser Beautiful brand or Kameltoe brand.
Hi BAC,
You have the right attitude.
Right now I am sitting in my living room, with a cup of tea, and Frank Sinatra’s Christmas album playing. Yes, I have resorted to Christmas music. I will go vote tomorrow morning, go to work, and let the chips fall where they may. I think deep down we all know the selection has been made for us, but as much as I want to be a realist I’m still an idealist at heart. I still want to believe there is good in the world. I keep hoping that everything isn’t about money, resources, and control.
The moral dilemma of the greater evil.
quote: “Yes, of course – one can choose not to vote for evil, lesser or greater. But does it do anything to prevent the greater evil? And if it doesn’t, then isn’t effectively aiding the greater evil?”
Which candidate is the greater or lesser evil? In all honesty, I do not know. The assumption that Zionist stooge Trump is the lesser of two evils is only an assumption, we do not know what he might do if Israel is attacked again, for one thing according to the Hal Turner website, Iran has initiated a massive attack on Israel right this very moment:
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news-selections/world-news/iran-israel-attack-developments-4-55-pm-est-nov-4-2024
Trump may actually be a greater evil when it comes to killing people, as he might nuke Iran in some orange man rage.
Trump might be the greater evil when it comes to deficit spending. In his first term, he ran the greatest deficits in the history of mankind.
Trump’s charisma might be tapped to lead the USA into WW3, no one would follow the Kamal into war, but they will gladly fight and die for Trump.
There are infinite things we do not know that could make Trump the greater of two evils, like if he made a deal with some Jewish billionaire bankers to do war.
Eric’s points are well taken, he is convinced by the evidence that Trump would be better for us than Kamal, and it certainly appears that way. But that, in itself, may be a manipulation of the power brokers – who are pulling the strings to create a landslide for Trump tomorrow, for their hidden agendas.
I, for one, suffer no moral dilemmas by not voting. The system is evil, and the candidates are evil. Since I do not want to live in an evil system ruled by evil dictators, I am not going to vote and pretend my vote matters or that my vote might end evil.
Think of the rise of Hitler or Mussolini. At that time, in their desperate moments, those people of Germany and Italy voted for the great charismatic leader – and it didn’t turn out so great a decade later, did it? Il Duce ended up on a meat hook, and Hitler secreted away to Argentina, how many Italians and Germans died in WW2? Many millions.
Everyone is going to do what they are going to do. Eric is going to vote and I am not. I don’t take any of this shit that seriously, since I KNOW people with money are running a show for us to believe in their corrupt system of rules. I do not believe in them or their rules, I am free and I believe in me.
The initiate asked the guru what should he do when he comes to the fork in the road, the guru replies “take it”. From a higher perspective, our personal decisions are just forks in the road on the path of life, we live and die, sometimes prosper, sometimes suffer. But does it really matter? No. From the perspective of the Universe, the struggle for existence goes on an on and all of us are just one of trillions of beings living out their lives – and there is good evidence this is a holographic simulation.
What actually matters to you is you. Believe in yourself and not these Ziowhore puppets. If things get to bad, leave for better pastures. It is important not to get caught up identifying with “your” nation. People die in foreign lands because they foolishly identified with their flag. It’s not your nation and not your flag.
I think Trump is slated to win by a landslide, then we will have to wait and observe what he does. He could turn out to be the greatest president ever, or the one who ended the nation in nuclear WW3. First thing to do is look at who he picks for his cabinet. If he picks Neocons, Zionists, AIPAC approved, Kushner approved hacks (which is very likely) then that would be the first warning sign of a bad moon rising. Don’t hold your breath, because the lesser of two evils is still evil.
What a relief, in another day or so I’ll be able to access
my “regularly scheduled programming”.
My vote has been mailed in and processed.
What do I expect? – less freedom and further enslavement.
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Still haven’t decided, but voting against the greater evil is legitimate.
I could end up going that way, but so much hate the idea of voting for the covid vax – in – chief.
Whoever wins will inherit a stagnant to declining economy and will be blamed, setting the stage for an even worse selectee next time.
Understand that tectonic political plates are in realignment. How this will all shake out is anyone’s guess.
As I’ve said for years, I hope our collapse as an Empire is as peaceful and soft as that of the Soviet Union.
I’m praying for that.
Indeed, I vote because it’s a substitute for combat. Modern war is a horrifying thing, mass produced death where even the survivors are damaged, shells of themselves. Broken in spirit, mind, and body. Nonetheless, if it ever comes to it, I’ll load up a weapon and do what I need to do to make communist tyranny extinct.
Compared to the moral quandaries of war, especially civil war in a modern surveillance state with modern weapons, getting your hands a little dirty by voting against the worst of the evil is nothing.
I’ll be voting for President Trump tomorrow. I don’t so much see it as the lesser of two evils as much as an empty pantsuit controlled by left wing extremists vs. a guy who managed to secure the trust of Tulsi Gabbard, RFK Jr, and others who’re on our side. And anyone who pisses off the left and their neocon water carriers as much as Trump does, frankly, deserves my vote.
That said, I have little doubt the shenanigans of the left will make 2020 look like child’s play.
For the record, I’m ashamed to admit I voted for George W. Bush. Twice.
Hi Mike,
I’m ashamed to admit I also voted for The Chimp twice given the stuff that passed when he was President that ultimately led to the formation of the U.S. as a “Homeland”.
However, looking back at that time, the Democrat opponents were both terrible and eventually became pushers of the climate change scam.
Voting for any Democrat Party candidate is off the table until they purge the Bernie Bros from their ranks and push them back to irrelevancy. The deal that the Democrats made with Sanders in 2016 is still pulling them away from their roots and the mainstream.
Why a senator from a podunk state like Vermont commands such attention is beyond belief. Yet here we are.
Ketanji Brown Jackson married into a white family with money so old that the family tree includes a signatory for the Declaration of Independence.
Her father was Chief Attorney for the Miami-Dade school board, and one uncle was Chief of the Miami Police Department.
Limousine Liberal.
There is a global criminal conspiracy to prevent Trump from becoming President again. He must be a thorn in someone’s side if globalist sociopaths, billionaire sociopaths such as Bill Gates, the DC establishment, the Democrat Party establishment, and government criminals are so hell bent on getting Kamala Harris (s)elected President instead of Trump….
https://elizabethnickson.substack.com/p/inside-the-international-criminal?publication_id=30495&post_id=151083180&isFreemail=false&r=1ggdo&triedRedirect=true
He setback their New World Order…One World Government agenda…temporarily….
Maybe he does love the slaves…that is usually fatal…see…JFK, Diana,
The slave owners….the masters….. all hate the slaves…..100% of them….
https://stopworldcontrol.com/fema/
Maybe Trump wants to be a benevolent king…like his relatives….
Donald Trump is the direct descendant of…. Haakon Magnusson the Elder…. the fifth king of Norway… of the Sverre dynasty…. who reigned from 1299 AD.
He put a strong emphasis on Christianity and Christian charity.
Haakon V was also in close contact with the royal courts in Europe. He was a close friend of the French King Philip the Fair…..
On friday the 13th of October 1307 the French King Philip the Fair had the templars (the freemasons) in France arrested…he said…they are sodomists and satanists….most escaped…about 400 captured…. 50 were burnt to death…
commie la and the marxists are templars freemasons….maybe they are scared Trump will team up with a new King Philip the Fair…..
So Trump is like Thor’s hammer…..
The Power of a Norse God with Thor’s Hammer…king’s rule by divine right…
https://www.entertainmentearth.com/news/atlanta-cutlery-historical-thor-hammer-replica/
The powerful weapon was made by the dwarven brothers Sindri and Brokkr after they made a bet with, who else, Loki.
They won the bet and presented Mjolnir to Thor, as described in Skáldskaparmál:
“Then he gave the hammer to Thor, and said that Thor might smite as hard as he desired, whatsoever might be before him, and the hammer would not fail; and if he threw it at anything, it would never miss, and never fly so far as not to return to his hand; and if be desired, he might keep it in his sark, it was so small; but indeed it was a flaw in the hammer that the fore-haft was somewhat short.”