The Upside to $4 a Gallon Gas . . .

ACTUALLY, it’s been decided that “stealing” wireless access is a crime.
Actual reason, the person running the open hotspot is criminally and civilly liable for whatever those users download. Example would be kiddie pr0n – the PROVIDER gets in legal trouble because the data came through HIS pipes.

I am tired of this effing witch-hunt, too. Sex Offenders and Kiddie Pr0n and such – I’ll state up front, there are those who need to be terminated for the good of society – everyone here knows that.
But it’s become a massive money-maker and life-destroyer, MOSTLY for young men. Teenager receives an unsolicited sext from a girl he goes to school with – HE gets charged with having kiddie pr0n. SHE gets – NOTHING. (Should be guilty of producing kiddie pr0n.) so there’s the unequal treatment before the law, for one.
Then, there’s the whole AGE issue: They’re both TEENAGERS. As in, there’s no reason to worry about things, it’s NORMAL HUMAN BEHAVIOR (as aided by technology). It’s the new Coat Room / make-out party. But he (or both of them) are branded as SEX OFFENDERS and treated WORSE than lepers.

At this point? We don’t HAVE very many 20-50 year old men running around with teenage girls. Clover would claim it’s proof the law works; but Clover has forgotten the Satanic Ritual Abuse scam that came just prior, and the various false “recovered memories” that were and still are common… And just SEETHES at the idea that SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE, MIGHT commit a crime. (Even without a vicitim.)

*: Caveat: REAL rapes, REAL child pornography, just like murder, I have a problem with. But if I ogle a woman and she can cry rape? It’s meaningless. WRT child porn, if a child is harmed, there’s a problem. If the child intentionally is doing things – say, a 15-year-old sexting photos of her/himself? STFU. NOT kiddie pr0n. OTOH, a 60 year old man seducing a pre-pubescent child? THAT is evil.

Jean, Don’t know how long it’s been a law but we made some antennas from old DTV-Dish dishes, could get a signal 1/4 m away. Kiddie porn, what a joke. The people who think this shit up have no idea what Normal is. It’s certainly not them. I’ve noticed it’s these very people who tend to get caught in their own laws too. The person(seems like a disproportionate amount of women these days)who comes up with this crap end up hanging from their own petard. Govt. gives kiddie porn as a reason for every invasion of privacy, esp. the internet. I know one thing about kiddie porn, it evidently exists somewhere although I don’t believe it’s as widespread as they make it to be. Having never seen it and not knowing where to find it, it’s just not in the fore of my mind since I don’t seem to require it. I sure don’t go for all these prosecutions of young men(boys mostly)for interacting with their little girlfriends. I got together with some of my nephews and families a few years back since we don’t really communicate due to their mother, my sister. I noticed this hot, tall blonde in a black dress, looked to be about 25. I asked one nephew Hey, who’s the hot blonde? He fell out laughing. He said, that’s your great niece, Chris, girl from first marriage. Hey, you coulda fooled me. She was 15 going on 30. Later I looked at her really close…no giveaway to being 15. Who coulda known? I guess the guys either have to be psychic or ID potential GF’s these days. I say “these days” and nothing’s really changed except for attitude toward relationships. yep, in my day, there were hot women who turned out to be 14, absolutely stacked looking like the hottest thing on two legs but nobody was focused on trying every guy who took her out. If her daddy didn’t know why she was so popular, he needed to get some eye surgery. Of course “I” never took anyone out just for sex. You believe that don’t you? Say yes and I’ll mail you one of my brochures for a great deal on some beach front property in west Texas.

Thanks David.

I added them to the place where I have been collecting Thorium articles.
http://tinyurl.com/THORIUM-energy

Dennis

jean, I won’t argue the point. On a purely speculative level, reckon how many little guys with their little weapons you’d need to thwart the Nat. Guard, Tx. Militia, US Armed Forces, FBI, CIA, Tx. Rangers, DPS SWAT teams, Bloomie’s Army(no need to call), etc., etc.? The best you could hope for would be a turf war and that looks less likely every day with the huge nanny state growing exponentially. Get the Chinese and Russians on your side and off the very people you seek to protect in just a couple battles. We already lost the PR battle.

P.M. I have used the old cold shower trick all my life to get that initial relief from the heat. Walk into the house with a body temp well above 98.6° and every stitch you have on is soaked with sweat, you either go back out into the wind, stand in front of a big fan or just strip and shower, my favorite when I’ve decided to give it up. A couple weeks ago our a/c went on the blink and we were having 105° days, brutal inside and out. We were w/o for 4 days. I got one of those medical ice packs out of the freezer and wrapped around my head for a while and then put it on my chest, a great relief. I’d quit pouring sweat and feel much better. We got the parts and I’m out there in the heat trying to install them by feel since my glasses had so much sweat on the lenses I couldn’t see. Still, I got it done in record time for me, came in and clutched it and heard that sweet sound of the outside unit come on. I’m not even a Christian but I think I may have said Thank you sweet Jesus. What a relief. When we moved here 30 years ago and were now taking showers with well water, no more of ALL COLD water on a hot body unless you wanted to literally have a stroke. Come in from fighting the cold all day and the hot shower is a life saver. Our hottest day here was two days in a row at 118° and our coldest has been -17°. Northerners think Tx. doesn’t get cold and southerners think it doesn’t get that hot. Say what?

Agreed Joeallen, that desal plant was a stupid idea. Funny how it always rains after a drought 😉

We pay for it in our water bills regardless whether it produces anything, same as stupid wind turbines actually. They get subsidies as above. The workers building it were paid enormous bonuses and perks out of our pockets.

I asked my neighbour here in Albury recently when he got solar panels on his house if I could plug my power tools in or my fridge when I wanted, because my taxes heavily subsidised his panels. That funny look on his face remains today.

Rev, I had a cotton farmer’s wife tell me last year she didn’t think the govt. “gave” them enough money. Funny, they only take mine…..for her. I’d have more sympathy if cotton had a market w/o a subsidy. I saw about 6 3/4 T 4WD diesel Chevy pickups there from brand new to about 10 years old, new Suburban in the garage. It must be tough.

Yes I know they need water as a coolant, the point is that it doesn’t take a lot of water neither with steam water reclaimers, they do it all the time in fossil steam powered generators. Check out Wyodak generator that uses very little sewer water in a dry desert to run its on site coal seam generator. Nor would it take a lake as a heat exchanger either as Wyodak shows. It would take the means to exchange heat to a cooler source that is for sure. Pumping or should I say allowing superheated steam to the surface to be used in the generator and in air cooled steam-water reclaimers and then sent back down to the reactor isn’t impossible you know. Its done with geothermal all the time.

Nor would you have to bury a reactor a mile under the earth, as I was being a bit facetious in saying this just to be funny. But at least a few 100 feet below the surface of the ground would be helpful to make a less ugly tomb and possibly seal a deadly catastrophy. When one see how they finally contained Chernobyl with a mound of dirt over the top, I see no reason why they shouldn’t have a little bit of sod on top.

Hot Rod, have you kept up with what’s going on with Chernobyl? Fish and animals there seem to be very healthy from their “hot” condition. In fact, they’re much healthier than their “cool” cousins. Humans also benefit from increased radiation, something I was never aware of until doing some reading about it and speaking to those who know more about the phenomenon than I. Here is another example of govt. screwing things up. If the Soviet Union hadn’t failed so miserably then there would be plenty documentation of how hot the animals got at first, if there was a big die-off, how many generations did it take for the levels to be possibly reduced and so on and so forth up to the present. As it was, I have doubts anyone has documented the whole thing from start to now. Then again, somebody who never lost funding to study all this may be just sitting on it somewhere, sorta like their huge stash of diamonds. Funding wouldn’t necessarily depend on govt.

Actually, water supplies only make nuclear power cheaper and easier. Without that, air cooled systems would still work (though they would probably be uneconomical), and practical systems that just cycle a stock of cooling water through cooling towers would have no trouble.

But it’s a non-issue for desalination anyway, because if you have salt water like sea water, you most probably have enough supplies to use that for cooling.

phil, I sent out a post on a private forum this week-end about that. I pointed out rightly that our “boom” in the patch hasn’t been quite a boom since the new technology requires great amounts of water in the fracing stage….and we don’t have it in Tx., even in east Tx. right now and may never have it in my lifetime the way things are looking. This would certainly be a boon to the industry. And that reminds me to renew my sub to RigZone, an industry eletter that will print optimist articles, just don’t expect the bottom line on controversial subjects. There are others like it and they all do the same. I got lots of disinfo during the BP fiasco in the Gulf. I asked a friend who’s a welder if he was booming. Not so you can tell he said, things are pretty slow. I do like his nice new welding rig though even though it is black. Sure looks good and he left it running the hour he stayed. I guess other people don’t understand it but I generally keep gloves in my pocket so I can get back in w/o burning my hand. Been sorta hot.

Morning, Eight –

The pyramids fascinate me, too.

We are told they were tombs for the Egyptian kings… yet no bodies have (apparently) ever been found within, there are no inscriptions/murals to that effect (as is typical of known Egyptian royal burial vaults). It’s weird.

The structures seem almost mechanical – utilitarian. As if they had a function.

I’ve read that, originally, they were cased in white limestone and, at the apex, had a special stone of unknown (to us) purpose.

There is abundant circumstantial evidence of some sort of unknown (to us) technology in use in antiquity. Not just in Egypt, either. Look into (if you haven’t already) the structures at Puma Punku:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlz_REUbWtY

The gelolgist featured in this video has also estimated the age of the Sphynx – based on water erosion – to be at least 10,000 years….

It should say something that when people from disciplines outside of archeology look at stuff from their field, geology, engineering, what have you, the archeologists ideas fall apart.

As to Puma Punku And Tiwanaku I don’t think they are machined but to prove it I have to go there. They aren’t measuring for draft. I believe they may be molded rather than machined. Machining gives right angles. Molding would produce angles that are just barely greater than 90. Usually 90.5 to 93 degrees. (for an inside hole). Same with some casting processes. This is so the part comes off the mold. Or a intermediate stage comes off a mold.

Now most people like these guys would measure 91 degrees and admire the near perfection. If that sort of thing repeats then it isn’t near perfection, it is the consistency of tooling.

eric, I think there’s supposed to be some sort of energy process happening where things are equidistant from all sides, in the top of a pyramid. I’d certainly like to try living in one. If you learned nothing else, you’d at least have an idea there wasn’t anything happening….which I doubt……but it could be just another pyramidal structure….but don’t put in your pocket, then it would be just another coin.

Eric/BrentP/Eight,

I have never seen anything that advanced in primitive anthropological sites. I’ve always speculated that entire advanced civilizations as great or better might have existed and vanished long ago. When one thinks how almost all iron tools would rust back to nothingness in less than two centuries, nothing but the oddest of stone structures could be left of such a society.

Advanced society is actually very fragile, even our own as it would take just one generation not passing on knowledge or methods and it would be back to the stone age for the most part.

Three thoughts come to my mind. One being the tower of babylon being in the bible talking about an advanced society reaching into the heavens. The second which probably sounds bizarre when placed in context of what most people want to believe, is that out of all those billions of stars like ours that indeed we have been visited by advanced society. The third being something my wife suggested is if the great knowledge was lost by the cainnite bumpkins that burned down the library of Alexandria. And I’ll add one more in terms of not just space but space-time, that indeed moving in the fourth dimension is also a possibilty understanding the fields of gravity and electromagnetics. The idea that Shroedenger’s equation lending to multiple and infinite parallel universes interacting and exchangine through probability and observation, it becomes very likely that tranversing these dimensions through advanced civilzation not just light years away but right here at different possible outcomes of this earth. How bizarre is it really that freedom fighters from our future in a opressed tyranny break loose using technology not to some island or distant planet but back to a parallel universe in earths time. The thoughts are boggling and humorous to the boneheads who don’t like anything they can’t play and understand in their ape hands.

As far as moving stones with say levitating machinery, that could only be done in my opinion that first understood electricity and magnetism. Strangely Babylon might have been something that has occured multiple times, and what about the great flood? Overall, mankind could travel and visit the planets right now, maybe even the stars in a century without government. But it seems that the more advanced a society becomes in common knowledge the more potential for the cainnites to expropriate it for evil. The understanding of nuclear energy just being a common example, one the understanding that mass and energy are interchangeable (BTW this is because mass is captured charge), how long before we built weapons to annihiliate all of mankind on this knowledge. What happens when the primitive in spirituality can go to the library say 100 years from now and know how to convert a cup full of water into their very own nuclear weapon? What about governments being able to reprogram dissidents (the real creators of knowledge) so that advanced society dies? I’m guessing this is probably why most advanced civilizations die, at some point it becomes imperative that enough faith and knowledge comes together that the ability by spiritually advanced people to understand, gets shared with primitively evil people who misuse it.

When one understands that such a civilization that built the pyramids were also mathematical advanced, that they understood at minimum trigonometry and the Pythagorean thereom. Its only a short jump from pythagorean thereom to vector mathematics and even Eulers Theory of imaginary-real numbers. Add to this the advanced machining shown by Eric’s provided links, then I think that its possible that we can conclude that an ingenious society has existed many times possibly on this earth. Its is also somewhat concerning that history could repeat again if true, and I have an idea that almost all these societies have died from political and theving scumbags.

Hot Rod, Stone is the only thing that will last countless millenia and maybe the pyramids were built for no other reason than they can’t fall down and will take countless millenia to crumble. Consider the relatively young Earth and how what we think of as a long time is nothing in perspective, the blink of a blink of an eye. A friend recently sent a new study of the universe that indicated there were, and get this, a Billion planets with similar conditions to Earth in the universe. I don’t think the Inca’s drew people in space suits just for the novelty of it. How many times could you draw beings and put them in random scenarios before you’d come up with a space suit? Consider the lines drawn across S. America that obviously are meant to be viewed from orbit. Yeh, I know there are those who say they were just drawing these lines and that they were guidelines to various things on earth. That’s not likely in my book. Why the hell would they only be able to be seen in their entirety and only mean something when seen that way? Mankind may never figure out what has happened in the past since M.N. is great at recycling. I read just yesterday where deposits of gold were almost certainly where celestial bodies impacted the Earth, since gold is found on comets and other space “stuff”. It’s almost too much to consider some times. I’ve been dreaming about it and asking these questions since I was small. Academia blew off some of the greatest minds, sci fi writers, but they were very smart people who could see beyond some result that made men rich or powerful. Arthur C. Clarke was the first person to propose GSO satellites among other things. It’s the people who can look beyond that give us the most hope although we don’t want to forget people like Herman Potocnik who actually drew up the first orbits and designed the first space station well before space flight began. My cousin and I used to lie out at night and dream of the stars when we were children. It was over-powering then, still is.

Eight you said a lot of things that are the truth. I’d always conveniently assumed that the pyramids were indeed done by the Egyptians Pharaohs with slave labor. Bible eludes to such an idea. The thing is that archeologist have supposedly dug up more primitive and simpler pyramids that were what they said basic prototypes to Giza. Some of these crude pyramids were built with dirt hill inside as a ramp used as interior mold form and ramp to lift the bigger bricks up into position. The masonry was also pretty sloppy by the way.

Suppose however that indeed the archaelogist got it backwards and the sloppier pyramids were in fact the later pyramids that the Egyptians tried to emulate from a more preadvanced but more technogical society. The Inca pyramids are also a rather interesting analogy to the Egyptians, why another society worlds and times away, would choose the pyramid form. Is it because the pyramid is one of the most stable architectures, because as your wife correctly points out building pyramids is a waste of volume. The pyramid could be meant to be a lasting marker for generations as you say because its was also one of the most stable of structures. The naturally sloped roof is good for loading both from snow, water, and wind. Or could it be as many others here speculate and energy accumulator, possibly a communication device ( a primitive crystal radio) across the earth? Me myself I don’t see any reason it would work as an energy multiplier. Visiting the Luxor in LV a couple of times I never felt that compelled by the shape as having much noticeable power to it, and I believe I walked the whole perimiter to see if my hair would stand up on end (smile), which means I was open to the idea at least a couple of times. I never brought a voltmeter or spectrum analyzer if that even was something of importance. Beings communication over long distance would most likely be electromagnetic or by gravitational waves (very-very unlikely gravity) one would think that some misisng element would have to be conductor (metal of some sort), possibly a crystal, or semiconductor like a point contact diode. All of this stuff would have been stripped bare by later primitives visiting such sites and taken back and lost as souveneirs across the world and ages. Also what was on the outside as say a conductor or apex stone or crystal, most likely would have been oxidized over time or again stolen, if the primary one would think oxidized metal would still exist in the ground or on the stones. It was rather interesting now that Eric’s link showed the magnetic properties of the so called Inca Ruins Masonry, what comes to mind is iron or an oxide of some sort but why the residual magnetism? This could in fact even be that iron or nickel oxide of what used to be a reduced and pure metal? Again I don’t even have a clue how such a pyramid would say amplify electrical currents (which do exist in earth ground) and then convert say to another form of energy or be utilized by electronics as a power source to drive say a radio trasmitter/receiver or transmitter. Anyone that went to that extreme as using something that megalith to make a radio transmitter or even a weak electrical field generator would be quite stupid, when Marconi and first pioneers did radio communciation with something very small first time round using capacitors, inductors and spark air gaps, along with something very similar to crystals and diodes very similar to Shottky (metal barrier) using rudimentary electronics. If a society had the means to generate electricity or large lift levitating gravitics power (requiring some knowledge of electricity if antigravity) which would be a prerequisite in my opinion to explain a society that also had advanced machining skills, why the hell would they utilize brick stones to get natural but limited currents from the ground? Seems like the power to build such structures would be immense to what they returned in output. All considering this I’m thinking more that the masonry was meant more as a long testament of a past society to show future generations of their technological prowness. Something that would last as you said much longer than any other form of structure. It still wouldn’t negate though that the masonry and skills of building such structures would have been advanced, nor explain how such a feat was accomplished.

Another thing I’ll say is that possibly the idea of advanced civilization is to not make stuctures that are out of sintered ceramic or even concrete, which would be much easier in constructing but intead out of natural stones cut out of quarries. This is why many people say such a civilization was actually unadvanced, But suppose that the idea is when a society becomes so advanced that natural is actually more aesthetic because of its natural form of shaping (art) but also because of its difficulty would be more testament to future generations of their technological prowness? I’m mixed on all these conflicting things, but the exact machining shown on the youtube video sure lends some credibility and as BrentP stated makes one wonder how silly archealogists don’t even discuss the machining exactness that wouldn’t be acheivable with a chisel. Gee whiz…historical academia fails again to think critical and open minded! At very minimum it seems to accomplish such lifting feets that conventional and motor powered cranes would have been needed.

As far as the cainnites they always laugh and snicker at anything that they think isn’t sensible to their inner sensitivities. They are a thicket of pomposity and always hang the Galileo’s of their time and then worship them the next generation with such narcism that they say they’d have been different. Many science fiction writers are being proven right, and without creativity of spanning the gap of possibilities of solutions what good is a scientist? No good. When you see how the cainnite scumbags work over and over in time its not suprising to see how people such as Tesla are treated even as his inventions are beyond that of a hustler or sci fi writer. You shake the foundations too much of the elite and they will be sure to hang you for heresy, meanwhile they’ll claim and use those secrets and give them to named respectable folks. I’ve lived enough to see how so called humanity works as most of you probably have. It doesn’t take much to extrapolate that nothing is new under the sun, or may I say under the stars?

Arthur C. Clarke was right though that we do belong to a collective unconscious, or should I disagree and say we belong to the collective of intelligence and conscious? It has to do with our connection with the intelligence of this universe as I’ve discussed many times, there is defnitely reason and creation going on through all time and all ages. Ideas and knowledge are immortal as time itself and exists in our spirtual world as truth, then manifests as a possibility to fullfill one such possibility in our lives. We are very powerfully connected as were the ancients to all this information and creation going on around us.

Regards,
HR

Hot Rod, I certainly won’t argue anything you said. It’s hard to speculate from that distance of time….whatever that distance might accurately be. I’ve thought of the Incan pyramids too and can’t help but think they are related in purpose. Could a pyramid be the foundation for an outside structure? Wasn’t Tesla’s “energy accumulator” a pyramidal structure also? If there were an outer part that could function something like an energy accumulator or an antenna, a bi-directional antenna then whoever used it might have taken it with them or it could have oxidized to nothing. The pyramid lends itself to a tight fit of an outer covering that would have no need of attachment other than the tight fit. They could have held something valuable enough to not leave or maybe almost ethereal. Either or. The answer is there if we just think of it hard enough. The broad answer of course is that we have left a stone unturned, something that will make it all fall into place. I can’t feel too bad at not having solved it ha ha. Better minds than mine have considered it their entire lifetimes and still no definite answer. And that brings us back to “how many millenia has current man considered these questions?” Does the scientific community agree on a definite timeline for the mid-east pyramids? And aren’t the Incan pyramids of a different era? Or is it just the Inca’s who are the different era? Confusing eh?

eric, finding out about Titicaca certainly added to the mystery. Thanks for the link, been a long time since I’d read any of that. We really have no idea how many advanced cultures have come and gone on Earth. And now they think they have discovered Atlantis, something that could not have been done before the advanced sonar along with GPS mapping we have today. Every time I hear Titicaca I’m transported back to a single digit age when that was The funniest name we’d ever heard. Even the girls had sly grins. Titicaca could keep the boys going for the entire class and beyond. After all, those were two of the dirtiest names we knew right together. Damn, I am old.

Here is how archeologists know when and who built the great pyramid. At least according to the books I’ve read.

This guy (I forget his name) in the 19th century was exploring the great pyramid using explosives. Yeah, that’s how they rolled. He was always running short of funding too. So he finds an iron plate in the debris one day. This is dismissed. It is claimed he planted it. Doesn’t jive with the conventional story line. No iron. So later on he is finds this little room that had been sealed off since construction. On the wall he finds a cartouche that confirms the existing theory that Cheops (sp?) built it. That is accepted by his peers. And that’s how they know when and by who it was built with absolute certainty.

That’s it.

Lot’s of accepted history is based on evidence that is even more sketchy than that. To dislodge any of it requires a mountain of evidence that is several thousand times greater both in volume and quality.

BrentP, don’t leave out the trail…as in follow the money. Many of these guys were able to connect the dots just as you say but for no other reasons than power and money and continued money through their lives. It doesn’t seem to make much difference what country they were from.

I’ll finish this topic of pyramids by just a little statement about the power of the triangle. Now many people will correctly state that the triangle is of no more power than say the circle and they are absolutely right. Constant Pi and the power of the geometry of the circle are also a basic theme of all science and math and therefore physical law.

But on the little triangle. I remember for the longest time in my engineering studies I was always plagued about pythagorean theoreom. Everyone stated it, everyone used it. It was used in vector mathematics and vector calculus. But back then I never had seen an exact proof of its derivation. Would it not seem strange that relativity also uses the pythagorean theorem in the Lorentz transforms of space and time? That space and time and speed of light would revolve back to the pythagorean thereom, the circle (or sphere) as well? And one night I went to bed and I saw the beauty of pythagorean thereom. It was genius as I saw it in fluidic form, the problem is that I didn’t wake from my sleep to record my thoughts that night. I did however dream many other things in my sleep that were exact and just as real and correct, the difference was that I lucidly woke myself up to record them. Then fiddle with them and verify their mathematical correctness. One such was why the shortest path between points is 120 degree segments, why a soap bubble computer worked. I woke up to record the theory from my dream and it was absolutely correct at explaining why the soap bubble computer always give a possible minimal short path. But back to the pythagorean thereom, never did I in consciousness see what I saw that one night on the eloquent beauty of triangles an pythagorean thereom. I slept and forgot it.

I did however manage to figure out an exact derivation proof for the right triangle and pythagorean theorem many years later. I’m not sure if you’d find this online as almost everything can be googled, but what I realized is that if you break a right triangle into a further of two right triangles, then do a ratio of sides of the two triangles, you’ll get with a bit of algebra c^2=a^2+b^2. I wish I had remembered that dream as there is something more that I can’t remember about it. Something scary and something beautiful as well. Well if any of you do have that dream again for me please let me in on the details?

Regards,
HR

Thought about it some last night and realized that I was wrong about the Tapering of the Tesla core (cone) increasing the flux lines. Actually no such thing happens as the number of flux lines is constant (like current) in a series circuit of magnetic reluctance. I confused flux density with flux lines. Rate of change of flux lines by faraday’s law creates the voltage so the flux lines being constant at any one particular point in time throughout the volume of the Tesla core, despite the cone taper between secondary and primary. I do remember reading that one of the things of the Tesla coil was that the resonance between primary and secondary was important and thus the ratio of secondary to primary. I’m guessing that this is the real reason for the conical taper on a Tesla? I’ll look into it. As I’m not really a Tesla coil expert and just went with the whole brainstorm for fun being connected to say pyramids. Again I really don’t think the pyramids were much more than an architectureal feature, I don’t blame anyone who thinks there is more to them though.

Hot Rod, I was simply hypothesizing without any real data. Pyramids are one of the few things I can remember accessing a large amount of material on before internet. I recall something about storing perishables in the top most part of a pyramid and having it last much longer. I believe they used to have an experiment you could perform yourself by building a small pyramidal structure and putting milk somewhere in the top of it and keeping it fresh well beyond what it would be fresh in an other container. Seems like it alluded to the eventual shape of milk containers that the industry has gotten away from with better refrigeration techniques and less whole(fat) milk in nearly all of it including whole milk. And since you bring it up, flux lines would stay the same although density does change. I missed that.

Hot Rod, CJ and I just returned from a semi-ill-fated trip to repair the lawn mower. I remembered seeing the tarp we use to keep warmth in during winter on the wellhead, sand separator, pressure tank, etc. so I got it by a corner(don’t know why the wife took it off)and drug it out. Sure enough, a rattler coiled up under it. I used a shovel to dislocate it’s head almost. Somehow got it past CJ and was going to send a pic but can’t figure out how to post it. We go into the barn in the big door where it’s windy and I start tearing it down. I see CJ lunge hard and know what he’s going after, a paper wasp, bad boys. He snacked it and got bit on the tongue but ran into a jackstand and wasps go everywhere prompting me to leave and retrieve him from the yard where he’s rolling. As a nearly grown pup he raised up under a trailer into a plate sized nest, got stung countless times and his head got big as a basketball. He was really sick and the vet(emergency trip after hours naturally)gave him steroids and other things to combat it. It was touch and go for a while. Now he’s bonkers for revenge and attacks them everywhere. There’s a huge amount of them this year as well as rattlers and all sorts of bad flora, I’m assuming due to the bad drought and exceptional heat. I reminded him about revenge, good reminder for me too. Hhmm, maybe he’s a product of my need for revenge. Tiny liked to go through a hole underneath the side of the pumphouse and so does Wyne the other big tom. Wyne got snakebit right off this year and now I wonder if that’s what Tine got into. Damn, wish I could purge under a store room we have and everywhere else for that matter. We’ve had a problem with prairie rattlers the last 5 years with one getting into the wash room in the house last year. I treaded lightly for a long time. They’re supposed to be 10X as powerful venom as diamondbacks like I killed today.

I’ll be damned did a search on Wiki and not only did I find the proof I conscioussly came up with for the pythagorean theorem but I found the proof I saw in my dreams and here it is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pythag_anim.gif

Now to many of you this may not be a big deal, but for a conniseur of truths it just shows how powerfull the internet is. I spent several years in high school and engineering college and never found one textbook on the proof of pythagorean thereom. I searched everywhere to see if I could re-verify what I had forgot in that dream, but to no avail. Today I just did a google search for pythagorean thereom Wiki and the wiki came up with the exact proofs, including the one above I was talking about being fluidic. This may not seem like a big thing to some of you but it helps me immensely in understanding relativity even more from a fluidic standpoint. You got to love the internet really!! All this because of the conversation started by Eight on Eric’s forum and the interent wiki, wow!!

Hot Rod, I enjoyed it. I wish I’d had some type of hand book for things like that back when I was always constructing something, sorta like an Ugly’s book for electricity, a practical guide as it were. I used to always be using a regional buyers guide and contacting people to find formulas before the internet. I dearly love the internet. Back in 80’s and 90’s I was constantly have $300/mnth phone bills. Big bucks then, still is for phone service.

Eight:

Well I researched why Tesla used the coned structure on some of his coils. Turns out that a Tesla coil isn’t like a conventional transformer. The idea of a Tesla coil isn’t a a single cycle of input power to single cycle of output continuous power like a loaded tranformer in power transmission or step up downs. A Tesla coil utilzes the secondary as a resonant tank circuit basically an L-C resonance circuit to amplify the primary current. Assuming for example when a spark isn’t discharging of the sperical capacitor and discharge terminal because it hasn’t exceeded breakdown voltage. The the power will resonant like a swing back and forth between the secondaries inductor (which is also its secondary) and the capacitor (sphere, donut on top). Of course the primary will continue to add more power to the secondary tank circuit if its resonanting at the same frequency and phase as the primary. Hence why the secondary must also be the right inductor (coil turns and diameter) along with the capacitance of sphere electrode to match the primary L-C in frequency. Most people including Tesla would fine tune the primary circuit to match the secondary in frequency not the other way around. Here we see then that Tesla experimented with cylinder and tapered cone type secondaries. With the coned secondary you get several effects:

1. You get some magentic coupling to the primary along the whole length of coil. Since the coils preceding it don’t absorb all the RF first there is some ability to pick up more magentic flux fields even though they decrease with distance from the primary as well as the loop area would get smaller thus reducing the flux lines intersected.

2.) There are two types of L-C tank or resonant circuits. One being a lumped circuit where the L and the C are highly divisible and seperated by offset in distance, this is classical L-C circuitry engineers analyze in their electronic theory. The there is what is called distributed L-C or transmission resonant circuits. The idea is to take the same total L and total C, but distribute them in series or parallel continously over distance. The end result for a distributed L-C circuit is you get a transmission resonance similar to a open ended coaxial. In coax the input wave reflects and the propagation speed of electricity all the way to the end of the coax, doubles at the open end and relects back. Or if there is a short on the end of the coax transmission the reflected electical wave will invert at a short, if it again meets another short on the input source (equivalent to a low impedance source) youll get a resonant wave moving back and forth through coax with a very high Q (low resistance loss). So basically using a distributed L-C using the natural L-C in the windings you don’t need to have the lumped sphere at the top, and should generate higher frequencies of osillation for the same total L-C. Tesla used the tapered coils to thus get higher power and shorter arcs, and the distributed or lumped cylinder with spheres on top to get longer length (higher voltage-larger arc lengths) but less coupled or continous power.

3) Because what you got is a resonant swing effect in a Tesla coil secondary, that is the higher the swing goes (more gravitational potential energy at maxium pendulum swing) the more energy in the secondary coil system, until discharge removes some of that energy. What you want is for every coil to directly couple magnetically to the primary, but not to couple capacitively to its nearby coil (parasitic unless distributed transmission where you use this parallel capacitance for its resonance point), The coned structure does both alowing each additional turn to couple to the primary without RF shielding from its coils below it and by turning them inwards to a point of the taper cone they are also moving inwards away from each other (thus reducing the capacitive coupling between adjacent coil turns). This means it takes less cycles of primary power to fully charge the secondary resonant circuit, meaning more continuous power can be delivered to the disharge terminal for the coned structure.

4). Also Tesla coils don’t utilize high magneitc permeability (iron, nickel, cobalt, ferrite, etc) cores like power transformers, again the idea isn’t about get a 1 cycle input to a 1 cycle output voltage, but rather a example 100 cycles of resonant primary input to a 1 cycle discharge output (when exceeding breakdown voltage), so they don’t need the strong magnetic coupling exhibited by power electronics. This has many advantages in reducing the parasistic capacitance between turns and to the core itself if metallic like iron.

Given all the above factors even though the magnetic fields get weaker as you proceed with turns from the primary with a cone secondary you still get stronger coupling to the primary, you get distributed resonance, you get less parallel and parasitic capacitance between ajdacent turns, but unfortunately your area gets smaller for each turn meaning flux densityxArea=flux will be also decreasing. Tesla found that the cone structure will all the conflicting attributes and properties above resulted in a near linear increase in voltage per additional coil turn on the cone.

Regards,
HR

Eight and Eric I hope you can make sense about what I was saying above about the Tesla coil cone version. You know the more I review some of Tesla’s ideas as an electrical design engineer with over 20 years of experience in my belt, the more genius I find it all. Like most people I read about Tesla and was fascinated about him when I was 16 years old, but did not have the electrical theory understanding at that time, so it was kind of a bit of magic to me then and this is how most see him I suppose. Its totally different however when revisiting him now and shelfing his designs for 20 years, coming back to look them over and they all make total sense.

Though re-visiting the Tesla coil thing on here has not only opened me up to study things like Pythagorean theory again where I was pleased to find a new proof for old ideas. But it also made me aware of some of his words and how they relate to some of my own thoughts and discoveries. Years ago when I read his biography as a kid I do remember his claims that indeed he had tapped into the earths magnetic magneto dynamo of power. With Tesla one doesn’t know how much was publicity stunts for fund raising. He was obviously talented beyond all words, but he also made strange overtures at contacting martians to get attention and funding for his radio receivers. My take on the guy was that he was so brilliant that he had an intuition to make most of his inspiration of exotic proclamations come true. He might have also had limited experiments that he knew and drew from when expanding his proclamations. He was also obviously very mathematical and model oriented as he declined relativity because of its lack of physical model. My own experience is that relativity is an absolute truth so I disagree with Tesla on that, but for years I too believed that relativity was a joke until verifying it indeed was true in my own lab studies. He was wrong on his dismissal and rejection of relativity, but then again he made conclusions such as gravity that seem to be true also from my own studies. So how to see all this? Well his mind modeling was so superb that he was able to get at the gist of things without fully putting the mathematics down on paper?? I would say that Tesla had a great ability to visualize in his head ideas, something that is lacking by most standards in people calling themselves scientist today.

The idea that pyramids would be connected to Tesla Coil theory somehow? Still a lot of things missing to it but who knows? Always worth having an open mind as they say.

I now don’t think of Tesla as being anything but a regular human being (as compared to a teenager where I believed he could see sparks on cats fur), but I do see him as someone that was intellect, spiritual, imaginative, creative, and a truth seeker. I’d say he was an engineer and scientist wrapped up in one but he was also a Godly person because of the traits I mentioned, he surely wasn’t an evil cainnite theif that is the norm of today in growing pantheons of numbers.

Anyway, I’ll think about it some more and study his Tesla receiver designs to see how that could have integrated into his beliefs of free power from earth’s internal dynamo. I might let you all in it if I figure something out, then again I might tell some of you or even none depending how much use it has to me.

Anyway about it HARP is definitely part of Tesla’s study from my studies. Gravity as well since Tesla and I formulated the same conclusion on longitudinal gravity waves. Of course I differ quite a bit from pumping electrons into the earths magnetic derived fields to induce earthquakes per say by reversing or resonanting with it dynamo. The longitudinal wave I see originates from the atomic structure not earths dynamo core as a macro engine.

Later
HR

Hot Rod, I don’t grasp all this but in summation when you said “you get distributed resonance, you get less parallel and parasitic capacitance between ajdacent turns, but unfortunately your area gets smaller for each turn meaning flux densityxArea=flux will be also decreasing.” and I’m thinking but at what rate? Linear? Exponential? and then you make it clear it’s linear in relation to each extra coil. So is there a way to get an exponential increase? Just asking. Is there anywhere I can find visual aids for this? BTW, how are kitties? How are you and wife? Sorry, I sorta obsess about these things.

Hot Rod, my whole life I have noticed a relationship between music and mathematics. I notice musicians seem to comprehend mathematics to a degree beyond the ordinary. I’ve often wondered if Tesla was a musician too. I was listening to the microwave one day and just figure out what percentage setting it was on by the beats of it’s magnetron turning on and off. Nobody else seems to notice the “play” button on the DVD player but I can time it down to a tiny partial of a second so that the “play” on the screen never goes away but you don’t see it over ridden either. I don’t try to do this, it just happens. Once I revved an engine up a few times I never had to look at a tach again to know it’s speed. I always wondered if my uncle was a good musician since he could synchronize a transmission with the engine very closely. I was busy and had a guy get in my truck one day. When he got out he was surprised, said he’d always thought it was an auto from hearing me drive it. To me, it’s just like playing music.

Eight said:

“Just asking. Is there anywhere I can find visual aids for this?”

I think the best way to visualize it is your own head with your own imagination. And the best way to do this in my experience is to think by analogy to a mechanical system. So here is one example of how to see the Tesla coil as a musical instrument as you correctly point out that matehmatically inclined people are also probably more adept to being musical?

Imagine that you have two tuning forks seperated by air. One of these forks which induces the power by a periodic and repeated direct mechanical strike for ringing from us will be called the primary fork. The secondary fork wil absorb the incident acoustic waves from the primary fork, but will have no input mechanical power from us directly. In addition we rig the secondary fork so that it is dampened when its maximum vibration amplitudes exceeds a given threshold, so that we take some energy off the secondary fork (this is equivalent to what happens on the secondary coil when it breaks down the air and loses energy with a discharge). So as one would expect the primary fork begins to vibrate but if the primary doesn’t have the same resonant frequency to the secondary fork the secondary fork will not vibrate. If however the primary fork is tuned to the secondary fork until their resonance is matched, the secondary tuning fork will start to vibrate in phase and at the same frequency as the primary fork. Assuming no discharge or loss and the secondary tuning fork would continue to build up oscillation to infnity over long enough time, but remember we will discharge the secondary if it gets to high of an amplitude vibration (spark gap ignition of the sphere on top on Tesla coil analogy) so the loss will keep the secondary fork oscillating but not getting overly excessive in swing resonation energy. How much coupling can I get from the primary tuning fork to the secondary tuning fork? If I rarify the air the coupling will get less, and if I compress the air the coupling will become stronger. The resonant system thus will still reach the same maxium (output swing- voltage) no matter if there is strong coupling or weak coupling, simply because in a pefect resonant system even if there is less energy it will build up but more slowly in oscillaiton amplitude. Therefore if there is weak coupling though that every time we take a hit with an analogical spark breakdown (when amplitude reaches its maxium threshold) we should expect a weaker coupling between the two forks to take longer between sparks because it takes more cycles of tuning fork primary to get the secondary to reach its threshold. Thus is the same in a Tesla Coil. The idea of usual transformer is to get the strongest coupling possible between the primary and secondary by using a high permeability core to wrap the windings on (equivalent to more dense air between forks), but a Tesla coil was made to work best without a strong medium of coupling between secondary and primary. It can do this because it relies on the swinging pendulum of secondary tuning fork (elastic modulus potential energy to kinetic energy and vice versa) to hold the energy of the last push on the swing, and then reinforce it again next cycle. In this case of zero losses it will always be guaranteed to get a secondary to reinforce even without an iron/ferrite/nickel core. Again it sacrafices continuous power however for peak power at spark, and also the amount of coupling still determines how often we get a streamer or spark to occur.

Again acoustics are the best analogy to wrap your head around a Tesla coil operation. If you want strong coupling you wouldn’t want the forks to be too seperate in distance as the power will drop off for a point source one over radius squared and for a line source of sound at one over radius from the primary tuning fork source. Remember of course sound not being electrical but only a way to see what is being acheived in analogy, in a Tesla Coil the oscillation is about the swing occuring between inductor and capacitor discharge.

Regards,
HR

“BTW, how are kitties?”

Kitten popcorn show is popped and the tasmanian devil skunk/rabbit/humanoid have all discharged all their stored energy. Sleeping will rebuilding their oscillation engines, next kitten spark-lightning show breakdown coming soon!

I’ve always had a slight wonder in my head that I was missing out not having kids, but after two weeks with these high energy kittens, I’m looking forward to getting back to the married with no children or kits lifestyle. I feel for all the guys with kids out there and raising and supporting a family, somebody has to do the a hard shit for us all. Me I’d rather just work on theories, making products, talking to the wife, on here or drinking a cup of tea in peace. The most interesting thing about cats is the more you don’t want to be disturbed the more they impose themselves on you.

In essense I love the little kits as they are a blast and I worry that they won’t get a home given the potential to test positive for disease, but I’m also going to be relieved to see an out for me. I’m hoping for a good ending in two more weeks when the vet re-tests.

My wife calls my comments on here the “Boys Nite Out”, as she says I’m typing as fast as possible, while all she sees is the back of my head. This of course explains all my bad spellings and grammar.

Well it helps that my wife is fairly logical too, its hard to find a woman you can talk engineering with. And 98% of the time she understands everything I say. A smart woman is worth more than 10 rubies and I’ll bet she is actually smarter than me. My brother used to say a good way to scare a chick off was to start talking engineering, science, or math on a date, but for some reason my wife just let me do all the talking and then said the smartest once sentences to summarize about 10 minutes of my talking. Anyway got to get out of the man cave (here). Catch you all later. Back to work on making money on new designs for products.

Regards,
HR

HR, thanks for the illustration. It gave me more insight. I’d be interested to know how you would determine the optimum distance between two coils and what size coils resonate with each other at any specific potential(voltage). I won’t try to make up for the classes I didn’t take though. Generalities are fine. I also wonder about the medium(air)encompassing the two and how it can be modified to greatest performance. Thanks much for what you sent already. I hope you and yours and the kits all receive a good prognosis from the vet ha ha. I am being slowly turned into an unwilling participant in a kitten free-for-all. They follow me everywhere including bed. Poor CJ sometimes looks at me like he feels he’s being abused when all five think it’s suddenly play time. I had to use the cortisone kitten spray on my foot earlier after one went totally berserk and attacked the most fun thing she could find, my foot. Now I know why it’s called kitten cortisone spray since they don’t need it. Thanks again.

@Eight

“I’d be interested to know how you would determine the optimum distance between two coils and what size coils resonate with each other at any specific potential(voltage). ”

Well its sure been fun us talking about all this theory of Tesla. I think the key to the design is simply figuring out the secondary resonance frequency so you can tune the primary circuit to match. There is a basic formula for L-C tank circuits comes from differential equations as well as Laplace transforms that say the natural frequency of resonance of an L-C is:

fn=1/sqrt(L*C) so basically as a rough measure you’d need to know the L inductance and C (capacitance) of the secondary circuit to utilize a first pass approximation. I say first pass approximation because it could deviate say with loading from the primary circuitry, as well as tolerance of L-C calculation versus reality. Since of course the textbooks never tell you that there is no ideal inductor. In fact putting a 1 nH inductor on a circuit board near a ground plane will shift the inducatance quite a bit, and most engineers do not even know this BTW. So first pass calculation would be to try to calculate by the winding of the transformer secondary inductance (remember the secondary on the air core tranformer is both an inductor and transformer). Then matching to the L-C circuit on the primary side. Tesla obviously probably had tunable capacitors is my guess on the primary side. Also Tesla didn’t have active solid state transistors as an amplifier but used the air gap spark plug as a Gun Diode effect. In a gun diode you DC bias at an operating point where the diode has a kinked Voltage-versus-I curve. The slope of the curve at any point represents its resistance, because of mobility of different carriers in a doped silicon there is an kink in the curve that gets a negative slope or thus negative resistance. DC biased in this operating range the Gunn diode creates a negative resistor that will cancel out real resistance and turn an L-C circuit to start amplifying noise into an oscillation (oscillator). Well it so turns out that an air gap when it breaks down has this same negative resistance curve and so was the first prinicple of a circuit using a gunb diode topology circuit way before the gunn diode existed. So Tesla would DC bias his spark gap on the primary side near breakdown voltage, creating a negative resistance and amplifying noise on the L-C tank circuit on his primary. That signal was then step up transformed by a coil ratio of secondaryturns divided by primary turns. The idea was that by using an air core and not say iron he could have still step up by the turns ratio and store the energy in the secondary L-C circuit as a swinging-pendulum of L-C energy, doing this over several cycles.

The idea that as I was saying one would want to crudely figure out the range of possible L and C on the primary and try to match on the L and C ration on the secondary is about right. Because again L is an approximation and can change say near groud, two because if using something other than air say iron on the core then the permeability (coupling of magnetic flux) is not constant with amplitude of input current, but can saturate at various loads. Three the L-C on the secondary is not purely just a function of itself, but can be loaded and thus shifted by the L-C on the primary circuit and the turns ratio.

These days most store bought Tesla coils use an auto feedback control unit along with solid state electronics to automatically adjust and create an amplitude oscillation on the primary side. But back in Telsa’s time he would have adjusted the primary L-C after crudely figuring out where they should be nealry matched. The crude basic theory without all the complication is to take Lsecondary*Csecondary=Lprimary*Cprimary. There are much more exact calculation then that taking into the ratio of turns and loading from primary to secondary and vice versa but its all approximate (though a little better) anyway for the other reasons I stated.

People such as yourself that are interested in understanding how this relates to say tapping into earths magnetic dynamo as Tesla studied would first need to understand from his patents how he was planning on building the so called Tesla receiver of his radio stations (prior to Marconi’s invetion) Wardenclyffe Tower. Most people when they think Tesla coil are only studying his patents of how to make the transmitter because high voltage bolts is a thrill, There is the radio receiver end of it too though, and that I believe is where the secret may lie if there is one on how to extract energy from the earth internal as conceived by Tesla. Again this is all speculation for fun, but its my opinion that is what is of more interest and it would have similar features to a Tesla coil as both would require resonance. Even Marcon that shortcut Tesla to the first radio telegraph tranmission borrowed heavily off Telsa patents and L-C circuitry BTW.

On the kittens rough housing the feet, I’ve found tincture iodine works best to heal cat scratches. Take the inflammation down almost instantly. Glad to hear I’m not alone on the kittens. I always found that youtube clip funny on the two engineering guys doing cat science, love the scene where they flash their HP-28 calculators like a geek badge in the beginning. I actually have one of them and used to happily carry them around in my pen pocket. I remember business students called them geek badges. Only if years later I carry no such electronics to see them with their Apples and dumb already done that badges.

Regards,
HR

Wanted to say that I gave the natural frequency wrong as fn (which is nomenclature for frequency in Hz with units 1/sec), whereas the formula I gave was in (radians/sec). The correct formula for fn=1/(2*Pi*sqrt(L*C)). Also I forgot to once again mention that the output frequency will be skewed by coil turn – coil turn parasitic capacitance, and coil turn to core capacitance (not a problem for air core types). Some of this can be crudely approximated by approximate formula. Or they can be analyzed with a lot of work with an FEA (finite element analysis) program like Ansoft, but as engineers nothing beats just getting a rough approximation and then using reality to fine tune and tweak the end result. Just like in the old days you can model as much as you want but eventually you have to build it anyway and there will be tweaking.

The maximum swing for the output of the secondary will be simply a function of the turns ratio of secondary to primary (irregardless of core permeability coupling) if the source is a low impedance source (all modern Telsa coils probably use low impedance source oscillators). The old signal source for the Tesla coils however used an air gap along with L-C tank circuit and D-C source probably with an inductor choke as its source energy. This means that the source not being a low impedance could also reflect power back from the secondary swing into the primary L-C. I’m speculating and not sure but could model in spice quickly that this might give higher swings on the output of the transfomer than the low impedance oscillators that auto-sweep for frequency match today? Overall as you can see even though one can get crude approximations to within 10% error that doesn’t mean that its an exact science to get a match.

HR

Hot Rod, once again thanks for the explanation. I have wondered if the earth may have different frequency from place to place as compared to an overall frequency emanating from the entire planet. Make sense? Since the surface is greatly varying, it would make some sort of sense that local frequency might vary from an overall planet frequency. Just a thought there. You mentioned rarified air at one time. Would that be a help or hindrance? Seems as though air could inhibit spatial resonance as well as increase it also. I realize to create the same resonance a vacuum would probably be the best way to control that. I don’t know if I have ever heard if a compressed inert gas would be of help since the amount of compression “could” cause a change in temperature(Boyle’s law). I suspect that’s neither here nor there though. So would you seek to stabilize and tune the oscillations with voltage first? And if varying the voltage would get it closer at what point would you try to use either a different material in the coil or change lengths of the coil material to further fine tune it? I realize this is purely speculation but it’s danged interesting. Surely Tesla’s accumulator would be greatly affected by say something like setting it up at altitude on an inert mountain as oppose to being at sea level and close to an active volcano. And yes, I realize you are changing more than one variable at that point too. Anyway, while I don’t understand the fine points of it, it is fascinating. I wanted to post you a link to an article today on Teslan on LRC. This is nothing but just some background but interesting on its own. http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/07/thorin-klosowski/what-made-nikola-tesla-so-productive/ Thanks for the advice on treating kitten woulds. I realized I probably have no tincture of iodine or mecurachrome and that was always a mainstay before we got too sophisticated to have dye on us or not use the high tech stuff such as hydrocortisone which helped me a great deal. The strong and good stuff was removed from OTC shelves long ago but due to the sheer amounts and types of poison plants we have where I live, we used the stuff like there was no tomorrow when it could be had. It took many years to get all the roots of various poison plants out of the soil near our house and we’d often pay the price in routing it out. I had to chuckle about the HP 28 since in my day we geeks were easily identified at great distance by the slide rule hanging from out belt loops, a couple examples I still have. I haven’t thought about them in a long time. My first computer experience was with punch cards, drive a man to drink they would. Get one(of course there was never getting just one, out of order and everything was worthless and if you submitted them that way you’d get a great deal of flack from the people putting them into the reader and actually operating the computer, a highly skilled job they wouldn’t let very many people perform. Gears, pulleys, tapes, holepunch readers, vacuum tubes, etc. I do have an old HP 12 C though. I suppose if you had access to a computer back then you could have made another simply by monkey see, monkey do. Now that would be something of a challenging project. I was right on the cusp of mixing and matching vacuum tubes and solid state electronics. I actually love that old technology since it was variable to a degree not available with solid state resistors and transistors. Nothing would pull in a station like the old tube type radios. I still have an old tube type CB that walks the walk and talks the talk and to this day is considered a great radio. I bought it used in 1964 so I guess that dates me eh? I bought it from a high school science teacher, mine in fact. I had it in a ’55 Chevy pickup for years hooked to a 108″ whip antenna. You’d better be paying attention when driving under something with fluorescent lights or you’d be buying said bulbs. Good to speak to you, hope you have a great evening. Thanks again.

Eight I did figure it out last night what Tesla was trying to harness. I wrote a big huge theory about it but decided not to publish it on here. Its just too cool actually. Tesla wasn’t BSing actually the inside of the earth is a massive power source actually. It was with your prodding that I came up with the model in my head.

I’d love to share it with you for giving me the inspiration to keep projecting what Tesla’s goal could have been and prodding, but I don’t feel like sharing it with the rest of the world. If you want to know the details then get my email from Eric and I’ll share it to you under the condition that you don’t spill it to everyone else. Besides its a personal theory and at that it could be flawed or wrong.

I think you’d find it really fascinating hypothesis nevertheless, actually what is going on inside the earth and why Tesla figured he could harness it. Turns out that it is a massive induction generator, heat engine in a way most people have never considered. Extraction of its energy is a given with the right method.

Regards,
HR

Hot Rod, I submitted my request to eric. I hope he has time. I would have published my screw off gmail account but it’s not working. I became fascinated with energy in the Earth after visiting Mexico and seeing their geo-thermal plants there. One is near Tampico and the other I looked at was between Tuxpan and Veracruz. High mountains are only 30-40 minutes west of these locations.

8..Eric forwarded me your email address. I sent you the hypothesis “Dynamo” Subject heading to your email.

Later
HR

Dear Dennis,

All the impassioned anti-nuclear agitation of the last half century, all the delay and all of the admittedly overstated danger, and all the massive dependence on oil with its potential for conflict in the Middle East, could have been avoided if only the FedGov had not been fixated on weapons of mass destruction. I knew that government had screwed up nukes but I did not know the enormous, wicked extent of the deception.

Excellent point.

FedGov misdirection of technology into the wrong channels, akin to Project X in Atlas Shrugged.

Project X is an invention of the scientists at the state science institute, requiring tons of Rearden Metal. Basically, it is a “death ray”, and is capable of destroying anything with a sonic pulse. The scientists claim that the project will be used to preserve peace and squash rebellion. It is destroyed towards the end of the book, and emits a pulse of radiation that destroys everything in the surrounding area, including Cuffy Meigs and Dr. Stadler, as well as the Taggart Bridge. The invention is publicly introduced as the “Thompson Harmonizer”.

Dennis, just wanted to let you know I appreciate this info. I passed it along to my private forum so we can all be better informed. None of us want to be ignorant of this but have never found anything that helped us be less ignorant. Thanks, B

Bevin, Eightsouthman. Thank you. Your comments are appreciated.

Typing of goonberment misallocation of resources, I live in Memphis, Tennessee but I’d swear I lived in IOWA what with all the damn corn and we all know why!

HAH! Thanks, Bevin – it’s been a while since I’ve had an Office Space fix!

Classic!

Dear lib,

Yeah. I’m going to watch it again myself.

One of the funniest comedies ever made.

Anyone who has ever held down a white collar, nine to five office job, knows everyone of the characters the movie makers depicted, probably by name!

re: Office Space – we know them, we ARE them, we LOATHE them… 😉
Dilbert gave them the kid-gloves treatment.

Ron Livingstone gives us the ANSWER, too.
Sad thing is, i’ve found I get MORE respect the LESS I work above and beyond. As I value my time – so do others respect me and my time.

So to resurrect the 80s: GREED IS GOOD. And ultimate greed is Time, because you can’t buy it back. 😉

Me, I have management added to my work load. Then my bosses have wondered why I can’t do management very well. Because I have to still do work!

What I want THEM to explain to ME one day is why they, with nothing BUT “management” to focus their attention on, can’t even begin to do that, and nothing but THAT with even a minimal margin of competence.

Business is interested in selling product. That idea has contaminated all PRODUCTIVE avenues.
We need to use 7Sigma to “lean out” that stupidity. (Not sure that’s even possible, just tossing out jargon. 😉 )

Seriously – it’s not the job of an engineer worthy of the name to find the cheapest way to do something. “Over-engineering” is a fallacy, predicated on the faulty supposition that you shouldn’t deisgn the product to last longer than its weakest part.

If you accept that premise, it makes a lot of sense. But it is inherent / bound to a notion of disposability. There’s a REASON the pyramids still stand: they were “over-engineered.” Same with the old Muscle cars: They lasted because they had staying power: They were Over Engineered. Old appliances, too: dishwasher, vacuum cleaner, etc: all took as essential the notion that they were capital investments, large and expensive. So they had to LAST, had to be rebuilt sometimes.

Now? Something goes wrong, it costs too much to rebuild it – chuck it and buy new, with the billions of dollars you have… Because we’re all rich, dontcha know?

Remember, the human race came from another planet’s genetic waste, dumped here at the end of “Hitchiker’s guide to the Universe.” The more I see – the more I believe that…

“Business is selling a product”. Jean, that was basically what the business I was in did, make and sell a product and you couldn’t sell what you couldn’t make and all it takes is one component to shut the entire plant down. I used to marvel at all the 50 year old equipment that was still running fine. Was it tied to a computer? No, but it made product as well as the new stuff, often better and lasted many times longer. I loved those old electric motors 6 feet in diameter, open to the wind, and that was a good thing. I finally saw one of them that needed to be replaced but nothing matched it’s power and size so it was sent to the motor shop and rebuilt. It was a thing of beauty, I’d have been proud to have my name on the design. I’d walk by open motor control boxes with big fans blowing into them. Wouldn’t it have been better to use bigger wire and put them in some place away from the heat source? Sure it would but it would have cost quite literally, a few dollars more….more than replacing heaters, breakers, fuses, disconnects, not on your life? plus all the time wasted trying to keep a bad thing going. When I built my cattle working pens I kept in mind all the disappearing head I’d seen go over countless pens or through them. I built mine with the bottom of the top rail 6.5′ above the ground and offset to the vertical of the other rails. I built the gates with sheet steel on both sides and close enough to the slab so a hoof couldn’t get caught under it or in it and never had an injury from the pens themselves, something I don’t know anyone else can say. Everybody gave me grief over the height of my pens except my neighbor who had 6′ tall sides and we’d watched one of my crazy heifers go over. He came down and said, I wish I’d built my top rail higher. The very first time we worked cattle, a crazy ass 900# heifer almost made the leap but that last 8.5″ was too much and she had no place to get a hoof in since the sides weren’t straight down from the rail. When she fell back and went “whoof”, I grinned. I’d been kidded about building pens for working ostriches. Well, cattle and ostriches were both contained and there was no drama, just getting the job done. When I see something like that, I think “good design”. The old hands have watched too many rear-ends going into the brush.