PDA

View Full Version : Live webcast of '08 Challenger from Chicago Auto Show


Valentine One Radar Detector

Eric
02-06-2008, 06:22 AM
Journalists and Public Are Invited to Watch Live Unveiling of First Production Challenger SRT8
On-demand replay of webcast available for 30 days
Live satellite feed provided to broadcasters for quick turnaround

Auburn Hills, Mich., Feb 4, 2008 -
What: Live Webcast and Satellite feeds of unveiling of 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8 at the Chicago Auto Show. Open to public and media.
Who: Jim Press, Chrysler Vice Chairman and President

When: Wednesday, Feb. 6, 2008, 11:45 a.m. Eastern Time/10:45 a.m. Central Time
Where: Chicago Auto Show, McCormick Place, Chicago, Illinois
Details: Webcast is accessible at http://72.32.208.177/webcast/tvs/chrysler/chicago/chicago_1.htm


Live satellite feed on Galaxy 11, transponder 13, Ku Analog, downlink freq: 11960 MHz, polarity Horizontal. Full bandwith (45 MB) transmission

Other: On-demand webcast replay is available for 30 days starting about an hour after program ends

l3it3r
02-06-2008, 09:31 PM
I got some great photos of it today. I'll post them later! 8)

The car is PERFECT :o

l3it3r
02-06-2008, 10:56 PM
I LOVE this car. :-*

http://l3it3r.com/watermarked/underwraps.jpg
http://l3it3r.com/watermarked/unveiled1.jpg
http://l3it3r.com/watermarked/unveiled2.jpg
http://l3it3r.com/watermarked/unveiled3.jpg
http://l3it3r.com/watermarked/front.jpg
http://l3it3r.com/watermarked/back.jpg
http://l3it3r.com/watermarked/pass.jpg
http://l3it3r.com/watermarked/rearpass.jpg
http://l3it3r.com/watermarked/frontengine.jpg
http://l3it3r.com/watermarked/engine.jpg
http://l3it3r.com/watermarked/srt8.jpg
http://l3it3r.com/watermarked/seats.jpg
http://l3it3r.com/watermarked/dash.jpg

Eric
02-07-2008, 07:00 AM
I got some great photos of it today. I'll post them later! 8)

The car is PERFECT :o


I dig it, too.

Tempting to buy one. Seriously.... the only thing that holds me back is the price. For not much more, I could buy a classic-era model. Might not be "modern" - but it will increase in value while the new one will lose value. And: I can work on the old one!

l3it3r
02-07-2008, 08:01 AM
You can work on this one too Eric, it's not too complicated. The HEMI motors are well documented, and an OBDII Programmer isn't very expensive anymore. They will be making programmable ECUs available very shortly, and the aftermarket for the LX / Hemi cars is already pretty big, and any engine / transmission mods existing now will be easily adopted to the Challenger.

I don't think that this car, or any car made within the last 10-15 years for that matter, will go UP in value. BUT, I'd rather NOT have a vehicle that I can't drive for fear of scratching or not being able to afford replacing something on. Classics are great if you can afford a museum garage IMO, but I'd rather drive the car.

Eric
02-07-2008, 08:07 AM
"You can work on this one too Eric, it's not too complicated. The HEMI motors are well documented, and an OBDII Programmer isn't very expensive anymore. They will be making programmable ECUs available very shortly, and the aftermarket for the LX / Hemi cars is already pretty big, and any engine / transmission mods existing now will be easily adopted to the Challenger."

Can - yes. But want to? Nope!

I use computers because they're convenient/necessary - for work. But I am just not into computerized (and emissions controlled) cars. Mapping an EFI system with a laptop does nothing for me. Re-jetting a carb does. 8) Hell, I don't even have a cell phone - and will never own a Blackberry or anything like it!

"I don't think that this car, or any car made within the last 10-15 years for that matter, will go UP in value. BUT, I'd rather NOT have a vehicle that I can't drive for fear of scratching or not being able to afford replacing something on. Classics are great if you can afford a museum garage IMO, but I'd rather drive the car."

Solid points. The "daily driver" aspect of owning something like a new Challenger is probably the single biggest lure. But the thing is still way expensive, esp. relative to a Mustang, for example.

I'd be worried about scratching any $40k car!

Eric
02-07-2008, 08:28 AM
Almost forgot another (to me) very important point: The "degradation factor."

With a pre-computer/pre-emissions muscle car, the vehicle's major systems can be maintained (and rebuilt) affordably and almost indefinitely. But with any new car, after about 10-15 years, as the complex electronic systems and related components begin to fail, keeping it running becomes increasingly more difficult - and increasingly expensive.

Compare, for example, the cost (and complexity ) of replacing the entire wiring harness on something like my '76 Trans-Am vs. that new Challenger. The audio/climate control sub-systems alone would cost huge bucks to replace.

Or on a more basic level, consider the fuel system. My car's "system" consists of a carburetor held in place by four bolts. It can be removed in less than 5 minutes - and rebuilt to "as new" in about an hour for about $60. A single small MAP/MAF sensor onthe Challenger costs more and involves as muchor more work to replace. When - not if - the system itself begins to fail, as it will if you keep the car long enough, the cost to replace it will be more than the cost of rebuilding the entire engine in my TA.

Modern cars are extremely reliable/durable - but disposable. This is ok if you buy/lease a new car every few years. But if you buy a car - like the new Challenger - with the intent of keeping it, you face some serious (and seriously expensive) obstacles down the road....

l3it3r
02-07-2008, 09:44 AM
Simple solution then Eric! Get the 392 Hemi Carb'd. It makes 540HP! And they make a direct bolt kit for SRT8 vehicles and have an ECU for the car.

Eric
02-07-2008, 11:29 AM
Simple solution then Eric! Get the 392 Hemi Carb'd. It makes 540HP! And they make a direct bolt kit for SRT8 vehicles and have an ECU for the car.


Not so simple!

Besides the engine, you have electronics controlling the brakes (ABS) as well as traction/stability systems, as well as air bags, as well as the systems controlling the AC, the audio... and so on. Orders of magnitude increases in complexity and cost relative to an old muscle car that has none of those things. Defeating/disabling/working around these myriad systems is may be doable - but no simple or easy or inexpensive thing.

Now, bolting a new Hemi with stand-alone ECU into an old car is a doable thing; viable from an economic and functional standpoint.

But there's no way to reduce a modern car's complexity/cost to anything close to what you'd be dealing with on an older, pre-computer vehicle.

Eric
02-07-2008, 11:36 AM
Simple solution then Eric! Get the 392 Hemi Carb'd. It makes 540HP! And they make a direct bolt kit for SRT8 vehicles and have an ECU for the car.


It's a great engine - but again, hugely expensive. I don't have the catalog in front of me, but I would guess that the complete engine with all accessories and "ready to run" is probably around $6,000.

Now, for about $1,500-2,000 in machine work and parts I could get the same or more power out of something like the 455 in my Trans-Am.

Disco Man
02-07-2008, 11:58 AM
Chris,

Thanks for posting the pictures. I want one. The production version looks much better than the concept (I would never have believed it). The detail on the production car is perfect. Even the decals have a neat etched lined pattern.

Only beef I have of this car, is that Mopar delayed the release of the 6-speed manual. Hopefully it will be an option soon.

I'll wait about three years, and then buy one of these 2008 SRT8. When production meets demand and the 6.4 SRT8 version comes out, should be able to get one of these used somewhere in the $20K range.

l3it3r
02-07-2008, 01:15 PM
The 6 speed has already been seen at Roush's garage in a 5.7 HEMI

Disco Man
02-07-2008, 04:24 PM
Chris,

Thanks for the heads up, I found this link which shows a picture of two of them outside of Roush facilities:

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/01/two-challengers-seen-hanging-out-at-roush/

The 5.7 liter Challenger, looks good - in fact it still is very sporty and the Gen II 380 horsepower 5.7 liter Hemi is no sloutch either. Would not mind owning one of these.