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    2009 Corvette ZR1 "by the numbers"

    * $103,300 MSRP (including $850 destination charge)
    * EPA-estimated fuel economy of 14 city and 20 highway
    * 0-60 mph in 3.4 seconds
    * 0-100 mph in 7.0 seconds
    * Quarter-mile elapsed time of 11.3 seconds at 131 mph

    The Corvette ZR1 also has a top speed of 205 mph (330 km/h), making it the fastest Corvette ever produced and ranking it among the global super cars of commensurate performance. None of those other super cars, however, equals the ZR1's performance-per-dollar ratio.

    "The ZR1 is an incredible machine by any measure," said Ed Peper, North American Vice President, Chevrolet. "There's simply no other vehicle in the world that does a better job of balancing performance, price and fuel economy."

    The Corvette ZR1's 0-60 performance is 0.3-second quicker than the already-quick Corvette Z06 and the 0-100-mph performance is nearly a full second quicker - 7 seconds vs. the Z06's 7.9 seconds. It is performance that is equal to or better than many super cars costing substantially more.

    "A favorable power-to-weight ratio gives the ZR1 an advantage over the competition and performance that has to be experienced to fully appreciate," said Tom Wallace, Corvette chief engineer. "Of course, on a racetrack, drivers of competitors' cars may appreciate the ZR1 in a whole different manner."

    And the racetrack isn't the only place where the ZR1 trumps its super-car competitors – it beats them at the gas pump, too. According to fueleconomy.gov, the ZR1's EPA-rated 14 city and 20 highway mileage ratings beat 2008 competitors such as the Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano (11 city / 15 highway); the Lamborghini Murcielago (8 city / 13 highway) and the Aston Martin V8 Vantage (12 city / 19 highway). They're competitive with the Dodge Viper (13 city / 22 highway) and the Porsche 911 GT3 (15 city / 22 highway).

    A new LS9 6.2L supercharged small-block engine powers the ZR1's performance capability. Heavy-duty and lightweight reciprocating components support high-rpm performance, while a new, sixth-generation supercharger (and complementing charge-cooling system) helps the LS9 make big power and torque across the rpm range. The engine is hand-assembled at GM's Performance Build Center, in Wixom, Mich.

    In addition to the LS9 engine, the ZR1 is a technology powerhouse, designed with lightweight and unique components that reinforce its performance with a confidant feel on either a highway or road course.

    The standard ZR1 comes with accoutrements based on the Z06, including lightweight seats and lightweight content. The available uplevel interior package includes power-adjustable, heated and leather-trimmed sport seats (embroidered with the ZR1 logo); side air bags; Bose premium audio system; navigation system; Bluetooth connectivity; power telescoping steering column; custom leather-wrapped interior available in four colors and more.

    Chrome wheels ($2,000) are the only other available option on the ZR1.

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    Re: 2009 Corvette ZR1 "by the numbers"

    god I want one
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    Re: 2009 Corvette ZR1 "by the numbers"

    Quote Originally Posted by damen
    god I want one
    I would get into big trouble real fast in this thing!

    Owning a ZR-1 would be like popping a dozen Viagras after no sex for a month and then spending a weekend at the Playboy Mansion with the proviso that if you touch anything, your dick gets cut off... .

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    you only get in trouble if you get caught - and I think in this car, catching you would be pretty impressive lol
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    Re: 2009 Corvette ZR1 "by the numbers"

    Even if I had the money, I'd rather have a Z06 Corvette than the ZR1. I don't like the "boy racer" looks of the ZR1, the clear plexiglass above the engine serves no purpose. For almost $35,000 less you get most of the performance of the ZR1 without the noisey supercharger. The Z06 has a cleaner look which will age better in future years. And for about $10,000 of upgrades to the Z06's LS7 7.0 liter V8 you can easily make it run as fast as a ZR1 if not faster and the total money spent will be less than the ZR1.

    If I was spending more than $100,000 for an American made supercar, I'd have to go with a Ford GT40, this car looks and performs like a race car and it is better balanced having a mid-engined layout. The GT40 also does not look like a "boy racer" like the ZR1 Corvette.

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    *cough*oldman*cough*

    I love the plexiglass window, and the much more aggressive styling

    remember, pete, this is supposed to be the "supercar" corvette - it HAS to be over the top
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    Re: 2009 Corvette ZR1 "by the numbers"

    Quote Originally Posted by damen
    *cough*oldman*cough*

    I love the plexiglass window, and the much more aggressive styling

    remember, pete, this is supposed to be the "supercar" corvette - it HAS to be over the top
    I'm with Pete - at $60k or so, the Corvette is a steal; the best performance package for the money on the road, period. But at $100k? Now I can get a Porsche 911 or an M5... maybe not quite as quick/fast... but less a (no offense) Blue Collar Special. No matter how quick/fast a Corvette is, it is still a Chevy and doesn't have the status other cars at the $100k price point have.

    Guys who can afford $100k cars generally don't want to see the plumber who is doing their bathroom driving the same basic car..... and they absolutely do not want to have to go to a Chevy dealer for service. The latter is a huge deal. The difference in treatment, ambiance - everything - at a Porsche or BMW shop vs. a Chevy store is night and day.....










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    there is a big difference between "not quite as fast" and "completely decimates"
    this corvette is faster in the 1/4 mile than any current Ferrari but the Enzo
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    Re: 2009 Corvette ZR1 "by the numbers"

    Quote Originally Posted by damen
    there is a big difference between "not quite as fast" and "completely decimates"
    this corvette is faster in the 1/4 mile than any current Ferrari but the Enzo
    No denying the car's formidable performance - but at this level, the differences are in a very real sense more about theoretical bragging rights than real-world differences. After all, how often are you going to run the 1/4 mile on the street (with 130 mph trap speeds at the end of it). Seriously? And the difference between a mid-high 11 second time slip and a mid-high 12 second time slip, while definitely important on a track in a real race - is hard to tell the difference by feel on the street.

    But the larger point is the totality of the experience; by which I mean when you buy a 911 or an M5 you're not just driving a true exotic, you also don't have to rub elbows with The Masses at some grimy, low-rent Chevy store when the car needs work. If you've been to a Porsche or BMW dealer - and seen the waiting area, observed the way customers are treated (and the type of customer that's there) you'll see you're buying a lot more than just the car. And that is something you can't get with a Corvette - no matter how great it is as a machine. You get to sit in the same ugly, noisy, waiting area as the guy who spent $15k on a POS Malibu. You get the same indifferent "service advisor" - and so on...

    I have nothing but respect for the Corvette (base version all the way up to ZR-1) but it's much harder to make the case for a $100k Corvette than it is for a $50k Corvette.







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    Have you owned a Corvette?

    honest question, as I dont recally.

    The service people at Chevrolet do NOT treat you the same way at all, trust me (and I'm not even an original owner)
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    Re: 2009 Corvette ZR1 "by the numbers"

    Damen,

    Back in the early 1990s, GM seriously was considering removing the Corvette from Chevrolet and selling them in Cadillac dealerships (as first reported by Motor Trend Magazine). They felt at the time with the Corvette going more upscale with the then ZR1 Corvette and that the Corvette had out-grown Cheverolet. However because of tradition GM decided to keep the Corvette in the Chevrolet division.

    Chevrolet servicing is very good, they do a good job however spending a few hours at local Chrysler/Jeep and Chevrolet dealership in Alexandria - called Heritage (which is now defunct, the Chevrolet portion remains and is called Alexandria Chevrolet). I witnessed the interaction of the Service Reps with different customers, one customer was dropping off his C6 Z06 and he had questions. I can attest that he was treated well, but no better than the woman before him who dropped a Chevy Cavaliar off for servicing, or the senior citizen who had the Chrysler 300 in the service bay after him, or the guy with a Chevrolet Suburban soon after that, etc.

    I have never owned a Corvette, but I have driven many of them. I'd have to say the early C3 convertibles and the later C2s are my favorites. Those cars had character and they are like nothing else on the road with their humps and bumps. I know what your going to say that the new C6 Corvettes are the best ever. Technology wise and performance wise you would be correct. But owning a new C6 to me is like dating a gorgeous woman with no personality. Owning a C2 or a C3 to me is like dating a woman who is cute but has a warm heart and is fun to be around. So it's not what the car does per say, but what it does to you. A C2 and a C3 puts a smile on my face when I see one, a C6 we'll it's just a fast Corvette to me.


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    Re: 2009 Corvette ZR1 "by the numbers"

    Quote Originally Posted by damen
    Have you owned a Corvette?

    honest question, as I dont recally.

    The service people at Chevrolet do NOT treat you the same way at all, trust me (and I'm not even an original owner)
    No, I haven't. And I don't doubt that at some dealers some Corvette owners will get better treatment. But you can't change the store, or the people you have to rub elbows with. I'm not trying to be a prig or an elitist; but generally speaking the demographic that buys $100k cars is highly educated/professional and very affluent. These folks expect a Gugenheim-like experience at the dealer; the way the building looks, how clean it is , the way the people act, the type of people they meet... etc.





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    lol maybe I just know a different variety of wealthy folks than you *shrugs* that hasnt been my experience at all
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    Quote Originally Posted by damen
    lol maybe I just know a different variety of wealthy folks than you *shrugs* that hasnt been my experience at all
    You do - because they're unusually young! But my previous rant was based on the general demographics of the $100k and up car buyer (when you begin going to these new car launches/press events, you'll get to hear the full monte marketing spiel, too!). For the most part, these people are in their 40s, with graduate degrees and employed in white collar, professional fields. For such buyers, the car itself is only part of the equation. There is a reason why Lexus, BMW, Porsche stores (etc.) all look like high-end office complexes - and why there are perks given to buyers of these cars that just don't come with the purchase of a Chevy.

    Pete's right that GM was thinking about selling Corvettes through Caddy dealers for precisely this reason.

    Corvette has become a world class performance car; but (and again, no offense intended) Chevy is not a world class brand and Chevy dealerships are not world class dealers.

    It's a definite problem - a limitation - for Corvette....

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    Quote Originally Posted by damen
    lol maybe I just know a different variety of wealthy folks than you *shrugs* that hasnt been my experience at all
    Damen,

    If you ever get a chance when your out in Loudon County, stop by Ferrari of Washington: http://www.fwash.com/fwash/con-dir.htm This dealership is like a museum with new Ferraris, Maseratis, Lamborghinis, and older exotics in the large showroom. There are even glass exclosed exotic auto exhits. The place is spotless and even has a spotless large garage which you can view through a large window (in the showroom) all the many exotics that the dealership mechanics are working on. Last time I was there they had 11 Ferraris up on the lifts. There was even a mid 1980s Countach up on the rack.

    Eric, is right well-to-do people expect much better than what we average folks get.

    I am actually glad that Chevrolet is not a elite brand and that Chevrolet prices the base Corvette so us common folk have a chance at buying one.

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    Re: 2009 Corvette ZR1 "by the numbers"

    Quote Originally Posted by Pete
    Quote Originally Posted by damen
    lol maybe I just know a different variety of wealthy folks than you *shrugs* that hasnt been my experience at all
    Damen,

    If you ever get a chance when your out in Loudon County, stop by Ferrari of Washington: http://www.fwash.com/fwash/con-dir.htm This dealership is like a museum with new Ferraris, Maseratis, Lamborghinis, and older exotics in the large showroom. There are even glass exclosed exotic auto exhits. The place is spotless and even has a spotless large garage which you can view through a large window (in the showroom) all the many exotics that the dealership mechanics are working on. Last time I was there they had 11 Ferraris up on the lifts. There was even a mid 1980s Countach up on the rack.

    Eric, is right well-to-do people expect much better than what we average folks get.

    I am actually glad that Chevrolet is not a elite brand and that Chevrolet prices the base Corvette so us common folk have a chance at buying one.
    I've been there - it's just as you describe. We have a similar store here - "The Hammersly Group" - that deals only in high-end cars. Compare these places with your typical Chevy store.... it's the difference between Wal-Mart and Nordstrom.

    I, too, like that the Corvette offers exotic ass-kicking capability to the average Joe. However, I also think that Chevy is painting itself farther into a corner each time the MSRP of the Corvette goes up. It is already getting iffy.... $50k is probably very close to the maximum that the average middle class buyer can afford. Another $10k higher and the 'Vette will have all four wheels in Porsche territory - and that will become a problem for Chevrolet, for all the reasons we've been discussing.

    There just aren't that many under 30 Damen types out there who don't mind shopping in the Budget Special aisle to get a great car.

    If I were Chevy, I'd focus on keeping the car's performance up while keeping its price down. Frankly, the ZR-1 is obnoxiously overpriced. As you noted yourself, you could probably take a standard $50k new Corvette and make it almost as quick/fast - if not quicker/faster - for much less money. Does it really take doubling the MSRP to bore/stroke the engine, add a hotter cam/supercharger?

    Of course not.

    The smart move is not to try to compete on equal terms with the Porsches of this world but to undercut them - as the 'Vette has traditionally been doing for decades now.









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