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    Great op-ed slamming Odumbo and the Democrats

    The Democrats Are The Real Problem

    By Mike Whitney

    Obama's candidacy is over; kaput. He's already stated that he has no intention of stopping the war, so he has disqualified himself. That's his prerogative; no one put a gun to his head. His op-ed in Monday's New York Times just removes any lingering doubt about the matter. What Obama proposes is moving the central theater of operation from Iraq to Afghanistan. Big deal. Why is it more acceptable to kill a man who is fighting for his country in Afghanistan than in Iraq?

    It's not; which is why Obama must be defeated and the equivocating Democratic Party must be jettisoned altogether. The Democrats are a party of blood just like the Republicans, they're just more discreet about it. That's why people who are serious about ending the war have to support candidates outside the two-party charade. The Democrat/Republican duopoly will not deliver the goods; it's as simple as that. The point is to stop the killing, not to provide blind support for smooth-talking politicos who try to mask their real intentions. Obama made his choice, now he can suffer the consequences.

    Nancy Pelosi is a perfect example of what the Democrats are all about. Just look at the way she brushed aside the people who got her elected. They mean nothing to her. In a matter of months, the "San Francisco liberal" has achieved what former-Speaker of the House Hastert could only dream of; she's driven the Congress' public approval ratings into single digits for the first time in history making her the worst speaker of all time. She rubber-stamped the FISA bill, concealed what she knew about the CIA's global torture programs, and vowed to stop any public effort to hold the administration accountable for its war crimes. (No impeachment) She has betrayed her most ardent supporters and singlehandedly transformed an already-emasculated congress into a purely ceremonial body incapable of doing the people's work.

    At least Bush never betrayed any of his supporters. Never. Pelosi is worse than Bush, much worse.

    And yet, liberals still insist that we should vote the Democratic ticket. In your dreams!

    What leftist or progressive is not totally fed-up with the Democrats cagey "bait-and-switch" hypocrisy? Voting the Democratic ticket is not a sign of "hope"; it's a sign of being a schmuck. The Democrats have done nothing to stop the war and will do nothing to stop the war. The Obama candidacy is merely a way to replace one group of genocidal maniacs with another. Who needs a charismatic, flannel-mouth glamor boy to lead us into battle when a senile fogy with "anger management" issues will do just fine.

    Voters of conscience should reject that choice altogether. Just as they should reject the "lesser of two evils" theory which does not apply when ordinance is being dumped daily on innocent civilians. It has to stop.

    Obama is not an antiwar candidate, that is merely a fiction maintained by his public relations team. In fact, he wants to beef up the military with 65,000 additional ground forces and 27,000 more marines. He's also stated that he will add “two additional combat brigades to Afghanistan” and encourage NATO to make “greater contributions—with fewer restrictions”. In his op-ed he boasted, "As president, I will make the fight against Al Qaeda and the Taliban the top priority that it should be. This is a war that we have to win.”

    He also added this ominous warning:

    “The greatest threat to that security lies in the tribal regions of Pakistan, where terrorists train and insurgents strike into Afghanistan. We cannot tolerate a terrorist sanctuary, and as president, I won’t. We need a stronger and sustained partnership between Afghanistan, Pakistan and NATO to secure the border, to take out terrorist camps and to crack down on cross-border insurgents. We need more troops, more helicopters, more satellites, more Predator drones in the Afghan border region. And we must make it clear that if Pakistan cannot or will not act, we will take out high-level terrorist targets like bin Laden if we have them in our sights.”

    OBAMA; THE CANDIDATE FOR ESCALATION

    Obama supporters should take their candidate at his word. What he is proposing is a dramatic escalation and expansion of the war into another sovereign country. How is this consistent with the demands of his base or the millions of Americans who believe that Obama represents real change.

    It's time for a reality check; the Democrats are the real problem not the Republicans. If the path to peace requires crushing the Democratic Party and its blood-thirsty candidates; so be it. The main thing is to stop the killing. If Obama won't do it; we'll find someone who will.

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    Re: Great op-ed slamming Odumbo and the Democrats

    Very well said.

    The only hope is a viable third party candidate who will end the war and bring our troops home. I wish Ron Paul had run third party.

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    Re: Great op-ed slamming Odumbo and the Democrats

    Quote Originally Posted by Pete
    Very well said.

    The only hope is a viable third party candidate who will end the war and bring our troops home. I wish Ron Paul had run third party.
    The first thing that's needed is an electable candidate which Mr. Paul is not, whatever his other virtues.


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    Re: Great op-ed slamming Odumbo and the Democrats

    Quote Originally Posted by jdm
    The first thing that's needed is an electable candidate which Mr. Paul is not, whatever his other virtues.
    According to who? The corporate run mainstream media who give us the same corrupt candidates who continue the destruction of this country.

    Another sign we have no control over our country.

    And who would you say would be this candidate?


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    Re: Great op-ed slamming Odumbo and the Democrats

    Quote Originally Posted by Pete
    Very well said.

    The only hope is a viable third party candidate who will end the war and bring our troops home. I wish Ron Paul had run third party.
    Me too.

    Gotta say it - I'm disappointed he chose to drop out. It would have been wonderful to have someone to vote for this November. I'm through voting against candidates - let alone the "lesser of two evils."

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    Re: Great op-ed slamming Odumbo and the Democrats

    Quote Originally Posted by Pete
    Quote Originally Posted by jdm
    The first thing that's needed is an electable candidate which Mr. Paul is not, whatever his other virtues.
    According to who? The corporate run mainstream media who give us the same corrupt candidates who continue the destruction of this country.

    Another sign we have no control over our country.

    And who would you say would be this candidate?

    According to the two major political parties, that's who.

    Of course we have no (or next to no) control over the country, what else is new?

    As to candidates< how aout you andme? We could flip for the no. 1 spot.

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    Obama's candidacy is over; kaput. He's already stated that he has no intention of stopping the war, so he has disqualified himself.

    I have a problem with columns being taken as fact. A column is someones opinion. They can write anything they want. Obama has stated he wants to end our fighting there and bring the troops home in 16 months. That is not a lack of intention to stop the war. Since McCain is wearing on Obama for setting a timeline, I suspect the columnist is blowing smoke to sell papers. Rush Limbaugh does the same thing so he can "charge usurous advertising rates"'. (<-----direct quote from him)
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    Gentlemen/Ladies,

    I'll go further and say Obama and the Democrats are simply going to destroy this country. We can sit around and discuss the war/wars all day and night, but I'm about to stroke out over the irresponsibility of the Democrats in the handling of domestic issues.

    One the one hand, we have Pelosi refusing to allow a domestic oil drilling bill. This one's a freaking no-brainer. Domestic production is absolutely necessary, should be legalized and fast-tracked. Just the consensus that we're trying to do SOMETHING about high oil prices and the resultant inflation reverberating throughout the economy would probably stabilize the dollar and the markets. But no. No. No. We have to do this the hard way. There's no greater tax on the typical middle class American family than high oil prices and the upward spiral of prices of all things petroleum-based (ie. plastics) and the rising cost of transporting such things to the consumer. But no. No. No. These idiots know better.

    I'll reveal a little secret. Wanna bring the American economy to its knees? Watch Iran drop a few mines into the Strait of Hormuz, and it's all over. Thanks to the Democrats. Go back to Clinton's veto of ANWR exploration. Go back to Bush's attempt, early in his presidency, to develop a comprehensive energy policy. The Dems started screaming "Halliburton" and it was all over.

    Then there's the stupid Dem talking point about 60 milllion plus acres available now for drilling. Never mind that those areas have not been properly "vetted" for drilling. Those are "possible" production acres requiring very expensive geology and test-drilling to exploit. So why can't we go where the oil is? Where we KNOW it is? No. No. Hell, no. Can't do that.

    On the other hand, the cherry on top: Chris Dodd (D-CT). Getting preferential treatment from Countrywide on some mortgages. No junk fees and 4-5% interest. This guy is now the chairman of the Senate Banking Committee.

    We are so screwed. I forsee Obama and a larger-majority Dem Congress as, at BEST, a return to something like the Carter Administration. Man, those were good times. The Dems will destroy our economy and national security. And that's just in the first 100 days. Pull out the bell-bottoms and grow your hair back to shoulder-length. It's back to the 1970's we go.

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    Re: Great op-ed slamming Odumbo and the Democrats

    Quote Originally Posted by jdm
    According to the two major political parties, that's who.

    Of course we have no (or next to no) control over the country, what else is new?

    As to candidates< how aout you andme? We could flip for the no. 1 spot.
    Very good idea. This is the way things were done at the beginning of our Republic, common people ran for public office served a few terms and then went home. They saw it as their duty. Now all we have is a bunch of crooks running for office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hwyhawg
    Gentlemen/Ladies,

    I'll go further and say Obama and the Democrats are simply going to destroy this country. We can sit around and discuss the war/wars all day and night, but I'm about to stroke out over the irresponsibility of the Democrats in the handling of domestic issues.

    I'll reveal a little secret. Wanna bring the American economy to its knees? Watch Iran drop a few mines into the Strait of Hormuz, and it's all over. Thanks to the Democrats. Go back to Clinton's veto of ANWR exploration. Go back to Bush's attempt, early in his presidency, to develop a comprehensive energy policy. The Dems started screaming "Halliburton" and it was all over.

    Then there's the stupid Dem talking point about 60 milllion plus acres available now for drilling. Never mind that those areas have not been properly "vetted" for drilling. Those are "possible" production acres requiring very expensive geology and test-drilling to exploit. So why can't we go where the oil is? Where we KNOW it is? No. No. Hell, no. Can't do that.

    On the other hand, the cherry on top: Chris Dodd (D-CT). Getting preferential treatment from Countrywide on some mortgages. No junk fees and 4-5% interest. This guy is now the chairman of the Senate Banking Committee.

    Hawg
    Gee, returning to an economy that had a record surplus, no major wars and the most serious political debate was about a philanderer who fibbed about it. ANWR was closed by Papa Bush, not Clinton. The new areas the oil companies want to open haven't been closely studied, they just want to go and start looking. Once they start, they can't be shut out, they're looking towards getting the jump on the competition. We all know how the oil companies just love competition. Exxon/Mobil are two companies that merged after they came into being years before when Standard Oil was broken up by controling oil and running prices up. There is no cometition in the oil business anymore. Lastly, a Senator getting preferential treatment? How many Republican members of Congrees got the same treatment? I'll bet quite a few. Conservative columnists and talk show hosts just need to stoke the fires so they can charge higher advertising rates by snookering the more gullible members of the public.
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