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    Quote Originally Posted by pearly8 View Post
    I believe that death is not the end for a believer, but the beginning of an eternal exixtence.

    It sounds wierd, but not long after my Father's death years ago, I had a vivid experience of him saying to me "it's o.k. It is what we thought it was".

    Comforting.

    And years ago, a friend of mine said, "The tragedy of life is not that we die, but that love dies", meaning that we could control our own life.

    Perfect love casts out all fear.

    And perhaps pain.

    Again, it sounds nice - I just haven't found any reason to believe (and much that argues against it).

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    Quote Originally Posted by swamprat View Post
    If evolution was true, how come the American voter is by and large a dumbshit compared with the Americans of the 1700's.
    "Giving every man a vote has no more made men wise and free than Christianity has made them good."
    --H. L. Mencken

    BTW:

    "I am an agnostic; I do not pretend to know what many ignorant men are sure of."
    --Clarence Darrow

    But I hate any type of religious nonsense, and so does any possible god, IMAO:

    "If there is a God, atheism must seem to Him as less of an insult than religion."
    --Goncourt

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonTom View Post
    "Giving every man a vote has no more made men wise and free than Christianity has made them good."
    --H. L. Mencken

    BTW:

    "I am an agnostic; I do not pretend to know what many ignorant men are sure of."
    --Clarence Darrow

    But I hate any type of religious nonsense, and so does any possible god, IMAO:

    "If there is a God, atheism must seem to Him as less of an insult than religion."
    --Goncourt

    -Don Quoteman
    Anyone who says he "knows" is not only full of shit - he's quite possibly deranged.

    The only thing that can be honestly said about this subject is that there may be something beyond our ken; some underlying motive force or higher reality that we cannot fully perceive or understand.

    That's it. Period.

    Sorry if I insulted anyone...

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    You don't find it comforting to know that when you die, you just stop? I find the prospect of an afterlife far more stress-inducing, the risk of eternal damnation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    The only thing that can be honestly said about this subject is that there may be something beyond our Ken
    There possibly is, Eric but, as lord and master of all I survey, I can assure you there is nothing of any consequence.

    Ken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by misterdecibel View Post
    You don't find it comforting to know that when you die, you just stop? I find the prospect of an afterlife far more stress-inducing, the risk of eternal damnation.
    Well, there's that... and also:

    What the hell would we do for an eternity?

    I think many religious people have no real grasp of the enormity of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    There possibly is, Eric but, as lord and master of all I survey, I can assure you there is nothing of any consequence.

    Ken.
    Now, that's disappointing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    Well, there's that... and also:

    What the hell would we do for an eternity?

    I think many religious people have no real grasp of the enormity of time.
    We'd bask in God's glory, of course. We'd spend an eternity worshiping his greatness, singing hymns and playing harps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misterdecibel View Post
    We'd bask in God's glory, of course. We'd spend an eternity worshiping his greatness, singing hymns and playing harps.
    Hm! I think I would sooner be alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misterdecibel View Post
    We'd bask in God's glory, of course. We'd spend an eternity worshiping his greatness, singing hymns and playing harps.
    And how horrendous that would be?

    Imagine an endless toast... and endless tribute.... over and over again.... marvelous! Holy! Blessed be!

    For not just millions but billions and trillions of years... forever.

    The more I think about religious belief, the more simple-minded I find it.

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