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    The problem with blacks, in a nutshell

    Watch this video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL56f_hvYj0



    Notice the dull-witted, slouchy, entitlement-minded indifference to its own sociopathic conduct.

    Gibs muh...

    That's what we're up against.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    Watch this video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL56f_hvYj0

    Notice the dull-witted, slouchy, entitlement-minded indifference to its own sociopathic conduct.

    Gibs muh...

    That's what we're up against.
    Do you think there are no whites that "dull-witted, slouchy," about their own "entitlement-minded indifference"?

    -Don-

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonTom View Post
    Do you think there are no whites that "dull-witted, slouchy," about their own "entitlement-minded indifference"?

    -Don-
    Certainly there are.

    But there are many more blacks (like that).

    Let's do some math:

    Blacks constitute about 13 percent of the population.

    But blacks commit more than 50 percent of all violent crimes ("black on white" crime specifically is far more common than the reverse).

    This is grossly disproportionate.

    But it's nonetheless absolutely true.

    Is it racist to note these facts?

    Why do we pretend otherwise about, ignore, or attempt to rationalize away the truth about black crime? Is that not a form of madness?

    As to the "whys" - well, the stock (and getting tiresome) answer is (of course) "racism." Blacks are forced to become thugs and criminals because they don't have access to the education and opportunities that whites (and other minorities) have access to.

    Which is bullshit.

    Myriad other races have suffered hardship and come to this country with literally nothing and within a generation, their kids are going to medical school. There is nothing analogous to the repetitive, seemingly inevitable, story of black pathology. Wherever you find them in large numbers - anywhere in the world - there you will also find increasing crime, decaying communities, poorer schools, gross corruption and incivility.

    Again, this is absolutely true - however unpleasant and politically incorrect it may be to mention it openly.

    To dismiss it as "racist" is infantile - and thank god, that's beginning to lose its power.

    I've read extensively on this subject and will tell you that the real reason for black pathology has do with the (generally) much lower average IQ of blacks (around 80-85) which among other things renders them unable to achieve more than a GED-level education, which in turn virtually guarantees a life of menial work at low pay - which in turn generates resentment, which often leads to violent lashing out.

    This is not to say that "all blacks are dumb" - or that all whites (or asians) are smart. Of course there are whites and asians who are less intelligent than some blacks; of course there are high-IQ blacks.

    But most whites (and most asians) are considerably more intelligent than most blacks; their average IQ is 100 or more - a level sufficient to achieve a college education and thus, obtain skilled tradesman or even professional-level employment. To function, in other words, in an advanced economy. And there are many more high-IQ whites and asians than there are blacks. Not an opinion - a fact. There is an Everest of unimpeachable evidence for this, from decades of mass-group IQ testing (military especially) to the obvious fact that the overwhelming majority of doctorate holders in hard sciences are not black to the glaringly obvious but never-discussed historical fact that black Africa was still in the Stone Age - literally - as recently as 100 years ago. (And it's impossible to attribute the latter to "racism." Circa AD 1500, say, black Africans had never been oppressed or enslaved by whitey; their continent was largely terra incognita. Virtually no Western Europeans had even set foot there, let alone interfered with the local population. Yet by AD 1500, other civilizations had already erected great cities; produced written literature and fine art; mastered technology - while black Africa was literally still in a stagnant state of neolithic savagery. Why?)

    The point being, blacks - as a group - may not be fixable. "Affirmative Action" and so on can't make people smarter; it can only dumb-down standards. Which is precisely what such programs have in fact done.

    The more blacks we have in this country, the more this country will grow to resemble Haiti or Somalia.

    You can already see this in black-majority enclaves.

    Do you want to live amongst such savagery?

    Not I - and not most whites and pretty much everyone else, too, for that matter. Even "liberals" betray the truth by their actions - such as moving to a safe suburb and taking their kids out of (heavily black) public schools - all the while indulging their Cosby Show/Will Smith fantasy.

    But the the reality on the ground is quite something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    Blacks constitute about 13 percent of the population.

    But blacks commit more than 50 percent of all violent crimes ("black on white" crime specifically is far more common than the reverse).

    This is grossly disproportionate.

    But it's nonetheless absolutely true.

    Is it racist to note these facts?
    I would rather see such facts as they relate to income over the past 30 years or so. IOW, how does a poor black man compare to a poor white man at the same income level? And then do the same with average incomes and then the rich. And also from the areas they were brought up in.

    Tom used to live in Northern Ireland and England. He says (back in the 1960's) the few blacks he knew there were very high class people. Much the opposite of what we usually see here in the USA. Why?

    It's easy to play such games with statistics, not showing the real reasons for differences.

    You should see some of the statistics Christians come up with against gays. Sometimes I cannot tell even if they are being serious or just trying to be funny!

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics."
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    "The truth is often a terrible weapon of aggression. It is possible to lie, and even to murder, with the truth."
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    "I would rather see such facts as they relate to income over the past 30 years or so. IOW, how does a poor black man compare to a poor white man at the same income level? And then do the same with average incomes and then the rich. And also from the areas they were brought up in."

    You can "correct" for income and you still have a huge disparity. Yes, poor whites (and poor members of other races) do commit more crime than members of the same race who have more means. There is a correlation between poverty and crime.

    But there are many more poor whites than blacks, yet blacks still commit vastly more violent crime; remember: blacks constitute only about 13 percent of the entire population and of that 13 percent, perhaps a third are males in the 16-40 age group that commits most of the murder, rape and assault, etc. In other words, about 3-5 percent of the population of the U.S. (young black males) commits over 50 percent of all murders, rapes and assaults.

    Startling, isn't it?

    This is well-known to people familiar with crime stats. See the government's own data if you don't believe me:

    http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.html

    The social pathology is off the charts, too - and self-evident. Literally everywhere blacks are in the majority (or where there is a large black population) you will find a deteriorating social order.

    Everywhere.

    You can't explain this away by saying, well, they're poor. Or they haven't had the same opportunities. That's the same (getting tiresome) line of BS we've been fed for an entire generation now.

    What does explain it is the well-established fact of lower average black intelligence - which also correlates with a greater tendency toward violent acting out, inability to understand the consequences of actions, etc.

    This isn't about "hate." It's about acknowledging reality. Most people already do so - in the privacy of their minds and outwardly (but discreetly) by their actions, such as moving to "good" neighborhoods and trying to put as much distance as they can between themselves and the "African American community."

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    Let's say all the statistics are true. What can we do about it to fix it? Is there a solution?

    -Don-

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonTom View Post
    Let's say all the statistics are true. What can we do about it to fix it? Is there a solution?

    -Don-
    That is the question, isn't it?

    It raises a lot of vexing/troubling issues... among them, that very possibly, remedial efforts (such as Affirmative Action) are not going to do anything to fix the underlying problem and that, very possibly, blacks (at least, a great many of them) are doomed by nature to being a perpetual underclass, because they simply lack the necessary intelligence to acquire the skills necessary to perform more than basic, physical/menial labor.... which in a First World economy means, very limited opportunity for advancement or even basic stability....

    In terms of practical politics:

    * At minimum, we should stop importing more of the problem from places like Somalia and Haiti (unless we want the US to become more like Somalia and Haiti).

    * We need public policies to discourage the excess reproduction of the existing stock. For example, tying additional welfare benefits after the first child to voluntary chemical or physical sterilization. (I would favor such policies for all races, incidentally. It's an outrage that productive people who pay their own way and behave responsibly are forced at gunpoint to hand over their money to finance the literally unlimited irresponsible breeding of society's losers.)

    Ultimately, we may have to accept a permanent underclass - not just literally, as we already do - but intellectually, as we currently do not. And take steps to contain/control it.

    The alternative is separation of some sort; leaving the underclass to sink to the level appropriate to its capacities.

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