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    9/11 Cover-Up Remains While Questions Mount

    by Eric Margolis

    "America’s strategic and economic interests in the Mideast and Muslim world are being threatened by the agony in Palestine, which inevitably invites terrorist attacks against US citizens and property."

    Ever since 9/11, readers keep asking me my views on these attacks. I have been barraged with emails until my head spins with engineering studies about melting steel, controlled explosions, claims about nefarious plots, and wreckage analysis.

    One of the most colorful theories comes from Gen. Hamid Gul, former director of Pakistan’s intelligence agency, ISI. He insists that 9/11 was staged by Israel’s Mossad and a cabal of rightwing US Air Force generals.

    I inspected the ruins of the New York’s Twin Towers, atop which I often dined, right after the attack. Downtown Manhattan was enveloped by a hideous, stinking miasma from the attack. I have never smelled anything so awful. It took me days to scrub the foul odor off my body. As a native New Yorker, I was shaken to the core by 9/11 – but hardly surprised, as I had predicted a major attack on the US nine days earlier.

    While visiting the Pentagon to consult on the Mideast, I also inspected its outside wall hit by the third hijacked aircraft.

    I saw photos of the impact site and could not understand what had happened to all the aircraft wreckage. There was almost none.

    In 1993, I was hijacked over Germany on a Lufthansa flight bound for Cairo. The Ethiopian hijacker took us all the way back to New York City. The hijacker was threatening to crash our A310 jumbo jet into Wall Street.

    Our flight was shadowed by US F-15 fighters that had orders to shoot, if necessary. Where, then, was US air defense on 11 Sept. 2001?

    A day after 9/11, I was asked on CNN if Osama bin Laden was behind the attack. "We have yet to see the evidence," I replied. I maintain this position today.

    Bin Laden denied he or al-Qaida was behind 9/11 and the death’s of nearly 3,000 people. The plot was hatched in Hamburg, Germany and Madrid, Spain, not in Afghanistan. A Pakistani, Khaled Sheik Mohammed, claimed he was the mastermind – after being tortured by near-drowning 183 times by the CIA.

    While denying involvement, Osama bin Laden did say he believed the attack on New York was in part motivated by Israel’s destruction of downtown Beirut during its 1982 invasion of Lebanon that inflicted some 18,000 civilian deaths.

    Tapes that appeared to confirm bin Laden’s guilt were clumsy fakes. They were supposedly "found" in Afghanistan by the anti-Taliban Afghan Northern Alliance, which was created and funded by Russian intelligence.

    I had met Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan and told CNN viewers that he was not the man in the tapes.

    After 9/11, Secretary of State Colin Powell promised Americans the State Department would issue a White Paper detailing bin Laden’s guilt. Afghanistan’s Taliban government asked for this document before it would extradite bin Laden, as the US was demanding. The White Paper was never produced, and the US ignored proper legal procedure and invaded Afghanistan. We still wait for evidence.

    I remain uncertain that Osama bin Laden was really behind the attacks. Much circumstantial evidence points to him and al-Qaida, but conclusive proof still lacks. One thing is certain: the attacks were planned and mounted from Germany, not Afghanistan. Of the 19 hijackers, 15 were Saudis, two from the United Arab Emirates, one an Egyptian and a Lebanese.

    By the way, I’ve said ever since 9/11 that the danger and size of al-Qaida has been vastly exaggerated – as an explosive report this week by the London’s esteemed International Institute for Strategic Studies has just confirmed. Al-Qaida, dedicated to fighting the Afghan Communists, never had more than 300 members at its peak.

    Today, according to CIA chief Leon Panetta, there are no more than 50 al-Qaida men in Afghanistan. Yet President Barack Obama has tripled the number of US troops in Afghanistan to 120,000 because of what to calls the al-Qaida threat. What is going on?

    Many people abroad believe al-Qaida is an American invention used to justify foreign military operations. I do not share this view. Osama bin Laden was never a US agent, though his group indirectly received funds from CIA to fight the Communists.


    Back to 9/11. I still cannot understand how amateur pilots could manage to maneuver in low to hit the World Trade Center and Pentagon. As a Pakistani intelligence agent told me, "if they were really amateur Arab pilots, they would have crashed into one another, not the World Trade Center!"

    The arrest of Israeli "movers" filming the attack and dancing with joy, and the subsequent arrest of groups of Israeli "students" supposedly tracking the would-be hijackers remains a deep mystery. So does the immobilization of US air defenses.

    The US 9/11 Commission was a whitewash, as are all such government commissions. They are designed to obscure, not reveal, the truth.

    A 2006, a Scripps Howard/Washington Post poll found that 36% of the 1,000 Americans sampled believed the US government was behind 9/11. Many Americans still do not believe the official version of 9/11.

    Neither do many Europeans. The entire Muslim world believes 9/11 was the work of Israel and far right American neocons, led by Dick Cheney.

    If the official story about 9/11 is true, the attacks caught the Bush administration asleep on guard duty. Bush’s incompetent national security advisor, Condoleezza Rice, brushed off serious warnings of the impending attack and actually cut spending on anti-terrorism just before 9/11.

    The White House and media were quick to blame Muslims who hated America’s lifestyle and values, launching the concept of "Islamic terrorism" – i.e. that the Muslim faith, not political issues, prompted the attacks.

    This dangerous canard has infected America, leading to a rising tide of Islamophobia. This week’s continued uproar over a Muslim community center in downtown New York, and a Florida preacher’s threat to burn Korans, are the latest doleful example of cultivated religious hatred.

    The suicide team that attacked New York and Washington made clear its aim was: a. to punish the US for backing Israel’s repression of Palestinians; and b. what they called US "occupation" of Saudi Arabia. Though they were all Muslims, religion was not the motivating factor.

    As the CIA’s former bin Laden expert Michael Scheuer rightly observed, the Muslim world was furious at the US for what it was doing in their region, not because of America’s values, liberties or religion.

    These motives for the 9/11 attack have been largely obscured by the whipping up hysteria over "Islamic terrorism." The planting of anthrax in New York, Florida and Washington soon after 9/11 was clearly designed to promote further anti-Muslim furor. The perpetrators of this red herring remain unknown. But the anthrax attack hastened passage of the semi-totalitarian Patriot Act that sharply limited the personal freedoms of Americans and imposed draconian new laws.

    Faked bin Laden videos and audio tapes. Planted anthrax. An intact Koran implausibly found at ground zero. Evidence in a hijacker’s bag that had somehow failed to make his ill-fated flight. Immediate claims that al-Qaida was behind the attacks. Those amateur kamikaze pilots and collapsing towers.


    Perhaps most damning, tapes taken in London of meetings between President George Bush and PM Tony Blair revealed a sinister proposal by the US president to provoke war with Iraq by painting US aircraft in UN colors, then buzzing Iraqi air defenses until they fired on them, thus providing a "casus belli." Bush also reportedly told Blair that after Iraq, he would "go on" to attack Saudi Arabia, Syria and Pakistan.

    In 1939, Nazi Germany dressed up soldiers in Polish uniforms to provoke a border fire-fight to justify Berlin’s ensuing invasion of Poland. Bush’s plan was of the same ilk. A president who would contemplate such a criminal operation might go a lot further to achieve his imperial dreams.

    As a veteran journalist, to me, all this smells to high heaven. There are just too many unanswered questions, too many suspicions, and that old Roman legal question, "cui bono" – "to whose benefit?"

    On 28 February, 1933, fire, set by a Dutch Jew, ravaged the Germany’s parliament, the Reichstag. While the Reichstag’s ruins were still smoking, Adolf Hitler’s government declared a war against "terrorism." A "Decree for the Protection of People and State" was promulgated suspending all legal protections of speech, assembly, property, and personal liberties. The Reichstag fire allowed the government to round up "terrorism" suspects without due process of law and made police powers near absolute.

    Sound familiar? Here’s another startling coincidence. Two years before 9/11, a series of mysterious apartment building bombings in Russia killed over 200 people. "Islamic terrorists" from Chechnya were blamed.

    Panic swept Russia and boosted former KGB agent Vladimir Putin into full power. Russian security agents of FSB were caught red-handed planting explosives in another building, but the story was hushed up. A former FSB agent, Alexander Litvinenko, who tried to reveal this story, was murdered in London by radioactive polonium.

    Similarly, the Bush administration’s neocons shamelessly used 9/11 to promote the invasion of Iraq. Just before the attack, polls showed 80% of Americans erroneously believed Saddam Hussein was behind 9/11. Dr. Goebbels would have been proud.

    So what, in the end, can we conclude? 1. We still do not know the real story about 9/11. 2. The official version is not credible. 3. 9/11 was used to justify invading strategic Afghanistan and oil-rich Iraq. 4. The attacks plunged America into wars against the Muslim world and enriched the US arms industry. 5. 9/11 boosted pro-Israel neoconservatives, formerly a fringe group, into power, and with them America’s totalitarian far right. 6. Bush’s unprovoked war against Iraq destroyed one of Israel’s two main enemies. 7. 9/11 put America in what may turn out to be a permanent state of war with the Muslim world – a key goal of the neoconservatives .

    But I’ve seen no hard evidence to date that 9/11 was a plot by America’s far right or by Israel or a giant cover-up. Just, perhaps, the Mother of All Coincidences. In the end, it may just have been 19 angry Arabs and a bumbling Bush administration looking for someone else to blame.

    Eric Margolis is the author of "War at the Top of the World" and the new book, "American Raj: Liberation or Domination?: Resolving the Conflict Between the West and the Muslim World."

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    I watch Fox News.

    I am sick and tired of 9/11.

    Yeah, we were attacked. 3,000 people died. But that's not a great number.

    So I see young people missing legs, arms, etc. They say they did it for our country. In reality, they did it for a President and Senate that are just a bunch of ass clowns.

    I don't think any one would volunteer, if they understood that they are just fodder!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dBrong View Post
    I watch Fox News.

    I am sick and tired of 9/11.

    Yeah, we were attacked. 3,000 people died. But that's not a great number.

    So I see young people missing legs, arms, etc. They say they did it for our country. In reality, they did it for a President and Senate that are just a bunch of ass clowns.

    I don't think any one would volunteer, if they understood that they are just fodder!
    Was 3000 even a blip in the US death statistics for that month? That week? That day?

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    That guy is a paranoid, conspiracy nutcase.
    A man's greatest mistake is to think he is working for somebody else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misterdecibel View Post
    Was 3000 even a blip in the US death statistics for that month? That week? That day?
    Well, it was a great tragedy - but then we react by invading and occupying a country (Iraq) that had nothing to do with it, resulting in the deaths (conservatively, according to the lowest estimates) of many tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis - just as innocent as the 3,000 Americans killed on 9/11 - and the displacement of hundreds of thousands more of them - and the ruination of their country. It's callous, sociopathic madness.

    The fact that so many Americans are blithely indifferent to this is precisely why America is loathed abroad - rightly so, in my opinion. Can you imagine the shit-storm that would ensure if some foreign power killed 100,000 Americans?

    And: Anyone not blinded by partisan ideology (or who is simply ignorant) knows that there was a blue-veined hard-on to attack Iraq that predated 9/11; that 9/11 became - at best - a convenient excuse.

    At worst, there's a lot more to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mase View Post
    That guy is a paranoid, conspiracy nutcase.
    Apparently so are 36% of the public. If you believe the government's take on it, he most certainly is. I think many questions remain unanswered, just like the events surrounding JFK's death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dBrong View Post
    I watch Fox News.

    I am sick and tired of 9/11.

    Yeah, we were attacked. 3,000 people died. But that's not a great number.

    So I see young people missing legs, arms, etc. They say they did it for our country. In reality, they did it for a President and Senate that are just a bunch of ass clowns.

    I don't think any one would volunteer, if they understood that they are just fodder!

    I couldn't agree more. I almost called my radio station and told them that I wouldn't listen to them on 9/11 unless they stopped playing that shit over and over and over.

    You hit it right on the head regarding good people serving a bunch of ass clowns. It really sucks that so many good people have been sucked in under the guise of patriotism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swamprat View Post
    Apparently so are 36% of the public. If you believe the government's take on it, he most certainly is. I think many questions remain unanswered, just like the events surrounding JFK's death.
    There are many entirely legitimate questions left unanswered:

    * Why is there no video of the plane that hit the Pentagon? That area (I lived there, so I know) is probably one of the most heavily surveilled areas in the entire world. There are security cameras everywhere. Tourists, too. Yet no film of the plane coming in to hit the Pentagon... and we know that at least one such video - taken by a camera at a nearby gas station - was confiscated by the FBI very shortly after the event. And subsequently disappeared. Why?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paWiZ2Y8fRg

    And:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRK8QFvXyfE

    * How does a large commercial jet striking (supposedly) the Pentagon not leave a similar-sized entrance hole (as was the case with the planes that the WTC towers)? Watch the early video of the scene outside the Pentagon, just after impact. Most of the floors (and the roof) are still intact. There is one roughly circular hole appx. 10 feet in diameter, but the area above it (including windows) is still intact. What happened to the tail of the airplane? Where did the wings go? How come there is no gash roughly equal in breadth to the wingspan? Where are the huge jet engines (One video shows what appears to be the fan of a much smaller jet engine lying on the ground outside the Pentagon; it was not a component of either a Rolls Royce or GE/Pratt & Whitney full-size commercial jet engine...

    * To strike the Pentagon as he (supposedly) did, the pilot (whom we are told was a barely competent raghead with some Cessna and simulator training) would have had to fly a large commercial jet traveling 400-plus mph at close to treetop level, or execute a series of steeply banked, descending turns, to hit his target. Credible? Believable? And again: Why is there is no (not one) video of this plane coming in? Surely, the sight and sounds of a commercial jet coming in over suburban DC/Northern Virginia - engines screaming - would have caused thousands of people to look up and watch... and some, at least, to video. Military jets on training runs often overfly my house. I can hear them coming well ahead of their actual appearance - and when a jet aircraft comes in low, you know it.
    Yet there is no visual evidence of any commercial jet flying low/incoming toward the Pentagon....

    * Why is there a "Doomsday" 747 (airborne command center) jet circiling the area well before the attack? This aircraft was video'd. If it was there 30 minutes or more before the attack on the Pentagon, then the government had to know the hijacked plane was en-route and was tracking it. Why, then, was the Pentagon not evacuated? Why were no fighter interceptors on scene. The first WTC tower was struck at 8:46AM, the Pentagon at 9:40AM, nearly an hour later, with no effective response from our vaunted military. Yet Andrews AFB is minutes away from the Pentagon/DC (flying time). Does it seem reasonable to you that not a single fighter was sent to intercept the plane that eventually (supposedly) hit the Pentagon?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMK5b...eature=related

    There's also a lot of weirdness surrounding what happened in NY and PA, too.

    For those who dismiss this as "conspiracy," well, the incontrovertible truth is the government is known to have not just contemplated such scenarios in the past - it is known to have undertaken them. From Operation Northwoods (a plan to incite war with Cuba in the early 1960s by staging "false flag" attacks on Americans and American targets, such as warships) to the sanctioned killing of foreign leaders whom Washington dislikes, such as Allende in Chile, Diem in Vietnam and the many CIA attempts to kill Castro.

    Our government is evil. So it is certainly capable of evil acts.

    To believe otherwise is to reveal to all the world that you're either a fool or naive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swamprat View Post
    You hit it right on the head regarding good people serving a bunch of ass clowns. It really sucks that so many good people have been sucked in under the guise of patriotism.
    Think about it: What's the goal in Afganistan? A country at the end of the world. A very arid place, substance living, people living as they did in 1000 BC.

    I can't believe that the general public doesn't demand a goal. The only goal I can see is that we are trying to kill Taliban. But there seems to be an unending stream of these nut jobs. So we spend $billions$ of dollars to kill a couple hunderd of these guys. I just don't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dBrong View Post
    Think about it: What's the goal in Afganistan? A country at the end of the world. A very arid place, substance living, people living as they did in 1000 BC.

    I can't believe that the general public doesn't demand a goal. The only goal I can see is that we are trying to kill Taliban. But there seems to be an unending stream of these nut jobs. So we spend $billions$ of dollars to kill a couple hunderd of these guys. I just don't get it.
    Hint: There are tremendous mineral resources in Afghanistan, as well as its strategic location (like Iraq).

    There's a reason why we're not "fightin' for freedom" in Somalia...

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