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    Taking Our Country Back

    See, this is the problem -- they want to take our country back. We want to take our country forward.

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    When I read the title to this post I was going to say "where are they taking it back to?"

    "Tutto nello Stato, niente al di fuori dello Stato, nulla contro lo Stato "
    -Mussolini
    All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misterdecibel View Post
    See, this is the problem -- they want to take our country back. We want to take our country forward.
    Well, it's a question of definitions.

    Liberal statists equate "progress" and "taking the country forward" with more and tighter controls over the individual for the (supposed) good of the collective hive. For example, heaf cayuh "reform."

    No thanks.

    On the other hand, many conservative/right-wing statists equate "taking the country back" with erecting a Christian theocracy of some kind, with Bible-based laws. For example, the Defense of Marriage act.

    No thanks there, either.

    I'd like to "go back" to something like what most of the founding fathers had in mind: A minimalist federal government; authority over the individual strictly limited by law to preventing him from harming others - not "improving" him at gunpoint (or forcing him to "help" others at gunpoint). You do your thing, I'll do mine - and whatever we do together we do on the basis of mutual, voluntary cooperative consent. Freedom of association; freedom of speech; the right to own property (rather than be permitted to temporarily rent it, as today). The right to self-defense. The right to be left alone by the law - inviolable - until one has given tangible, specific reason (probable cause) to suspect one has harmed or may be about to harm someone else.

    How 'bout that?

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