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    Less Government Republicans... Not!

    You expect sickly, smothering statism from liberal Democrats (well, ok, Democrats in general). It's their stated policy, after all. At least give them credit for being above board about it. But when it comes from a Republican (as often as not one who touts his or her "conservative "credentials) it's like getting cold-cocked by a friend. You're defenses are down; you don't see it coming.

    Like The Chimp himself once said: Fool me once... shame on.. shame on you... you can't get fooled again.

    Except many people - Republican voters - reflexively, routinely do get fooled again.

    In Connecticut, for example, Republican Governor Jodi Rell supported the use of automated speed enforcement cameras on state highways. "Safety" is the predictable mantra, as always - and also the typically Republican appeal to badge-licking "law n' order." But the reality is that Rell saw an easy way to increase taxes without having to come out in favor of an overt tax increase. She - like Republican politicians in Virginia who came up with "abusive" and"reckless" driver fees of $1,000 or more to be levied onto motorists convicted of ordinary traffic offenses (since repealed or defeated - but still) figures the dumbos out there are too stupid to understand that a tax is a tax is a tax, whether it's called one or not.

    The bottom line is always - pay up!

    And, give up - your liberty.

    Mitt Romney's heaf-cayuh "reform" - with its individual mandate that became the core of Obamacare - is another example.

    In Utah, the state senate belched forth a bill that would have erected a Stasi-like system for informing on one's fellow motorists - for whatever reason, legitimate or not. Anyone could phone in a "tip" to the authorities that another motorist presented an "imminent threat to driving safety." The state motor vehicle authorities could then use these tips as the basis for dragooning the motorist in for a battery of tests and evaluations, including (no kidding) a mental fitness test, as well as medical testing and forced re-taking of the driver's test, etc.

    All on the basis of an anonymous call.

    Think about this. You pass by a senile old coot driving 54 mph in the left lane - and the vengeful oldster reports you for "unsafe driving." To him, you are a reckless speeder. In the past, all he could do was shake his bony wrist (slowly) and mutter angrily to himself. Had this Republican-backed bill (SB 84; see http://www.truckflix.com/news_article.php?newsid=4642
    ) passed, the angry old coot would have had a magnificent cudgel available to impose his revenge. Ditto every saaaafety-obsessed "mom" - or anyone else who wanted to sick the dogs on you.

    Guess who the bill's author was? Republican State Senator Allen Christensen.

    Probably, he thinks his ideas help "the children." More likely, he's just as cynical, corrupt and power-hungry as the "liberals" he fulminates against come election season.

    Just like the Republicans in Congress who gave us the "Patriot" Act, Homeland Security and the federal REAL ID Act - which will shortly impose a de facto national ID system on the American people little different from the "your papers, please" regime that (we thought, some of us) had disappeared forever with the fall of the Berlin Wall and the crumbling of the old Soviet Union.

    Not.

    And these people don't get hounded out of office. They routinely get re-elected. The Chimp did; Romney's on deck for 2012. Grampy won in AZ, too. Many others besides.

    So, how did we get Here from There? Has Republicanism been twisted, as some allege? Or is it merely returning to its roots? People forget that Republicanism began as a militant crusade to impose a centralized state that determined the extent of its own power; with the violent suppression of dissent - at bayonet-point, literally. With suspension of the rule of law. With the personal Decidership of a stovepipe hat-wearing 19th century version of George W. Bush only much, much worse because it had at least 30 IQ points on the modern-day iteration.

    The ugly truth of the matter is that we now have two authoritarian parties (or "wings"of the same unitary party) vying for power. Power over anyone they can get their hands on. The reasons no longer matter much - only the effects. And the bottom line is if you are among the declining few who still believe in such strange and unusual notions as a government that protects your property rather than takes it, that defends your liberty rather than systematically destroying it - well, then you don't have a dog in this fight - either as a motorist or citizen. Democrat or Republican - "left" or "right" - they've got us coming and going.

    There is no hope - no future - until the sickness is rightly diagnosed. Expecting Republicans - the party of Lincoln, who destroyed the Republic - to stand athwart the road and call Halt! to the bum's rush toward more and ever-more oppressive government is as silly as expecting a Come To Jesus (in prison) serial killer to not resume serial killing once set loose again.

    It's what he does; it's what they (Republicans) do. Always, Forever.

    Never forget this - and maybe one day America will remember herself.

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    All on the basis of an anonymous call.

    Here, here!

    Like the current campaign of "If you see something, Say something."

    Since when is it right for anyone to make anonymous complaints with the force of law behind them? Answer: Since the Republicans have perverted the meaning of the Constitution to fit their mold of control.

    I vote that we all abdicate and move to....somewhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eesquared View Post
    All on the basis of an anonymous call.

    Here, here!

    Like the current campaign of "If you see something, Say something."

    Since when is it right for anyone to make anonymous complaints with the force of law behind them? Answer: Since the Republicans have perverted the meaning of the Constitution to fit their mold of control.

    I vote that we all abdicate and move to....somewhere else.
    Texas is one of the states that could realistically take the lead and pursue peaceful separation. I honestly believe this is the only solution. There is no way to reform a continent-sized centrally controlled super-state back to a small "r" republican form of government, which necessarily implies small government and local control.

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    You are correct - Texas maintained the right to separate when it wrote the Texas Constitution because it had been its own country once upon a time and wanted to retain that option if the Union didn't work out.

    My fear is that if Texas did separate, then we would be at war with Mexico. They already want to take over Texas and the western half of America by 'reclaiming Aztlan'. If Texas separated, we could pretty much bank on being overrun by Mexico. Heck, we almost are already. I think half of Mexico's population lives here now.

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    I have just finished reading Ron Paul's book The Revolution: a Manifesto.

    An excellent book in my opinion. Too bad more senators and house representatives are not more like Ron Paul.

    I think the US gov't would be smaller and more cost effective if it followed the US Constitution.

    In brief some key points:


    1. Less Fed funny money. (Stop devaluing the US dollar)
    2. Bring US troops home from the various locations and wars around the world.
    3. Stop meddling in the affairs of other countries.
    4. Respect and follow the constitution.
    5. Branches of gov't should do their constitutional duties and not let others do their duty.
    6. Have federal gov't only do work that they are authorized to do by the US Constitution. The rest is for the states and the people.
    7. Gov't intervention often has unintended consequences.


    It is a relatively short (under 200 pages) and in my opinion is not a difficult read.
    Sincerely,
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    What nobler employment, or more valuable to the state, than that of the man who instructs the rising generation? Cicero (106BC-43BC)

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    Quote Originally Posted by eesquared View Post
    You are correct - Texas maintained the right to separate when it wrote the Texas Constitution because it had been its own country once upon a time and wanted to retain that option if the Union didn't work out.

    My fear is that if Texas did separate, then we would be at war with Mexico. They already want to take over Texas and the western half of America by 'reclaiming Aztlan'. If Texas separated, we could pretty much bank on being overrun by Mexico. Heck, we almost are already. I think half of Mexico's population lives here now.

    I'm not so sure about that. Only 1 percent of Mexicos population lived in TX when it was supposedly theirs.

    If war happened, the US would likely step in since TX supplies roughly 30 percent of the oil in the US. The US couldn't survive without a somewhat friendly Texas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eesquared View Post
    You are correct - Texas maintained the right to separate when it wrote the Texas Constitution because it had been its own country once upon a time and wanted to retain that option if the Union didn't work out.

    My fear is that if Texas did separate, then we would be at war with Mexico. They already want to take over Texas and the western half of America by 'reclaiming Aztlan'. If Texas separated, we could pretty much bank on being overrun by Mexico. Heck, we almost are already. I think half of Mexico's population lives here now.
    I bet the assets Texas has - including the Guard - would make short work of the Mexican Army, if it came to that.

    But it might be necessary to cede a portion of land - the land that is already overwhelmingly possessed by illegals/recent "immigrants" - to them, as their own ethnic-based state. (Only ethnic based states are viable in the long run; heterogenous states are not only inherently unstable, they are by definition in transition from dominance by one group - in the case of the US, European-descended whites - to dominance by another.)

    Texas could also form a confederation with other like-minded states, delegating a few specific, narrowly defined functions such as cooperative defense in the event of a foreign attack upon one of the member states.

    PS: All the states reserved the right to secede. It is a myth that they agreed to surrender this vital right by ratifying the Constitution. Secession was viewed as an essential "check and balance" by the founding generation. Lincoln and his yankees destroyed that and erected a consolidated, unlimited central government that determines the extent of its own powers - the distilled essence of tyranny.

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