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    Operation Enduring Idiocy

    Here we go ... again.

    Another "fight fer freedom" ... I've lost count at this point.

    We just can't get our fill, can we?

    It's not enough that we're already bogged down in two Middle Eastern wars/occupations - and totteringon the edge of a currency default and possibly a complete collapse of our economy here in the Homeland. We need to jump into a third Middle Eastern war.

    Halliburton, Kellog Root & Brown require it. Obama - the latest sock puppet/front man for the corporate state - is implementing it.

    America the Psychotic ought to be our new national anthem. We'd go ape if some other country decided to "intervene" in our affairs after, say, Katrina. But we can just dive right on into other countries' internal paroxysms at our whim - attacking whomever we wish - just because we can. So long as they're low-rent enough that we can attack them with relative impunity, that is. We never hit anyone who can hit back. I suspect that is going to change. And we will have deserved every bit of it.

    Or maybe the new anthem ought to be America the stupid. Because we just never learn. The poltroons (a great word; look it up) and other species of Chickenhawkus Americanus now orchestrating the bombing of Libya are the same know-it-all donkeys who turgidly demanded that "we" (that is, cannon fodder 19-year-olds from StumpJump, West Virginia) clear out Saddam because there was an Islamic Thomas Jefferson - hell, a whole slew of Iraqi founding fathers, faithful democrats all- waiting to take his place.

    Just like in Afghanistan. They love freedom, you see. Democracy, too.

    Except when they don't and we find out we have to prop up another puppet, usually as brutal as the one just deposed - with the billy stick of "the troops" - endlessly, forever.

    There's no money for America's falling apart roads; none to help the millions of regular people egregiously and deliberately, criminally screwed over by Wall Street shysters - looking at a home note that's 40 percent higher than the current market value of their place. But there's no end to the money available to fund the fights for freedom, wherever they may be - even though they're as much about "freedom" as being a Republican these days means you are conservative. We'll fight 'em anyhow because after all, who gives a damn about the rugheads - or (let's be even more honest) the Cannon Fodder Kids from StumpJump West by God Virginia whom we like to call "the troops" because it has a nice saccharine ring to it and also because it's easier to think in general terms instead of individually maimed for life or just plain dead soldiers.

    The premise offered up by the American Jihadis (cough, "world community") now attacking Libya is that we're helping the good guys. Really? What the heck do we actually know about what's going on in Libya? Who the people on either side really are? It's like Iraq, where we naively thought - more accurately, were told - the anti-Saddam guys were good guys with almost cartoon-like childish propaganda when it turns out they are really just a different type of bad guy. We had to pay them off - are still paying them off - to keep them from shooting our "troops" through the heay-ud. The formerly secular Iraq is now a seething cauldron of radical Islamic thuggishness. But they do have electricity - sometimes. And other freedoms besides, too.

    Or how about when we helped the (cough) "freedom fighters" in Afghanistan against the Russians back in the '80s? Those "freedom fighters" used us - and hated us as much as the Russians. Because, in their eyes we both were interlopers in their affairs, messing with their countries for our own greedy economic and geopolitical purposes. Which of course is 100 proof Troof. Which is why we don't like to think about it much. Just wave the flag and feel good about the "freedom" that (cough) "we" are fighting for...

    But have you ever wondered why we never fight fer freedom where there's no oil? Or other strategic interest?

    You may recall that among the "freedom fighters" in Afghanistan back in The Day could be found a young Saudi prince named Osama. His "freedom fighters" became the germ cell for what became al Qaeda and eventually, 9/11. To a very great extent, we made Osama - and created al Qaeda.

    Chalmers Johnsom - a genuinely smart guy who therefore is universally ignored - calls the result of all this, of our almost fetishistic need to bat at hornet's nests like a retarded teenager, blowback.

    His point (and mine too) is simply this: We don't know what's going on in these countries; not really - and besides, we have no more business involving ourselves in these distant lands, trying to regiment the societies of foreign peoples, than foreign peoples have business in our land, force-feeding us whatever it is they think is the right way to organize our society. We'd resent the hell out of it - and them - yet we can't imagine why they don't resent us for precisely the same reason.

    America is not The Messiah and its deeply flawed, deeply hypocritical - and now, nearly broke - government needs to quit looking for (supposed) dragons to slay abroad.

    We can't afford it, we don't have any right to do it - and we have no clue what we are doing in these pestholes anyhow.

    We really should have re-elected The Chimp to a third term.

    The latest Decider is no different - and much less entertaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    Here we go ... again.

    Another "fight fer freedom" ... I've lost count at this point.

    We just can't get our fill, can we?

    It's not enough that we're already bogged down in two Middle Eastern wars/occupations - and totteringon the edge of a currency default and possibly a complete collapse of our economy here in the Homeland. We need to jump into a third Middle Eastern war.

    ...............................................
    Looks like the link between all these useless conflicts is the United Nations. This organisation is allegedly there to secure peace throughout the so called civilised world and all its member nations are supposed to abide by its resolutions. Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya are all member states who have ignored the resolutions of this organisation and, therefore, their transgressions should be dealt with by all the other member states. However 'all the other member states' usually seems to mean the US of A and the United Kingdom with minimal support from elsewhere. At least there seems to be co-operation from other nations this time, including the French who are usually the first to run from any conflict with their tails between their legs. Pardon me if I sound bitter there but my Dad was betrayed to the Germans by the French he was there to help.

    ('Simples' as Alexandr would say - get rid of the United Nations Organisation and you get rid of the biggest organiser of modern conflict.)

    On a somewhat wry note of humor, the Libyan rebels have just shot down a MIG-23. The sad thing is that they didn't know it was one of Gaddafi's aircraft that had been 'liberated' by the rebels and was being flown by one of their own.

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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110320/...us_libya_gates

    Quote posted by Robert Gates
    "We agreed to use our unique capabilities and the breadth of those capabilities at the front of this process, and then we expected in a matter of days to be able to turn over the primary responsibility to others," Gates told reporters traveling with him to Russia. "We will continue to support the coalition, we will be a member of the coalition, we will have a military role in the coalition, but we will not have the preeminent role."

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    Quote Originally Posted by misterdecibel View Post
    We're making a very bad habit of launching unprovoked acts of war by executive fiat against sovereign states that have not attacked us or even threatened to attack us.

    Whether Qaddafi is a dick/despot is no more relevant than whether Saddam was a dick/despot.

    There are dickhead despots all over the world - many of them bosom buddies of the US (government).

    The question is: How is it our business to involve ourselves in the affairs of sovereign states? To kill people in the name of some Greater Good, as we define it?

    It is a self-righteous, moralizing arrogance that is uniquely American.

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    in line with that...
    Have you seen the new military recruiting ads on television? They erroneously claim that the job of the American military is to protect the world!
    Um, excuse me...but how is it that the neocons and warmongers have managed to dupe us into believing that we are the world's police? What happened to "no foreign entanglements" ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post

    It is a self-righteous, moralizing arrogance that is uniquely American.
    We're not unique. This one is Nicky Sarkozy's war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misterdecibel View Post
    We're not unique. This one is Nicky Sarkozy's war.
    Except we're leading it; and that without US intervention, the intervention would never have happened. France is a Poodle State. It has no capacity to project power on its own. Only the new Soviet Union - America - can do that.

    But not for long.

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    The problem is there plenty of dictatorships all over the world especially in Africa that the supreme leader takes pleasure in torturing,killing and humiliating their populations into submission. How come we're not helping them? Kadafi will cling to power at all cost like all the other dictator he has money in the billions and can buy whatever he needs to sustain that power. Dictators and nepotism go hand in hand like in Syria and North Korea.They want it all and won't give it up. It's not just fighting with bombs and grenades but psychological warfare to win the hearts and minds. Dictators being somewhat psychopathic in nature understand what is necessary to do whatever to grip their power. The masses cannot break away from dilators easily,it's like the Stockholm victims of abusers. In conclusion we should of stayed out of it. Let the Arabic fight their own revolutions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam View Post
    The problem is there plenty of dictatorships all over the world especially in Africa that the supreme leader takes pleasure in torturing,killing and humiliating their populations into submission. How come we're not helping them?
    Because they have no oil!

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