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    2007 Pontiac G6 retractable hardtop

    New car review: 2007 Pontiac G6 retractable hardtop
    By Eric Peters
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    Remember when VCRs cost $1,500?

    Today, you can get one for about $100 (or even less). Once the basic technology was hammered out, the focus turned to stamping them out in ever larger quantities -- at ever lower prices. It's the same with automotive gadgets and technology. Like GPS, which went from being an ultra-exclusive (and ultra-expensive) feature found only in a few high-end cars to a commonplace option on cars costing as little as $20k today.

    Or retractable hardtops.

    As recently as a year or so ago, the handful of cars that offered this feature were premium-branded -- and premium-priced. But just like GPS, retractable hardtops --
    -- which offer the same secure feeling in bad weather (and bad neighborhoods) as a hardtop coupe with the option of open-air motoring just a touch of a button away -- are filtering down to reasonably priced cars in the $30k and under segment.

    The latest of these is the retractable hardtop version of Pontiac's G6 four-seater coupe.

    Its base price of $28,500 puts it in the same general ballpark as a well-optioned Ford Mustang convertible, Camry Solara ,Chrysler Sebring or Mitsubishi Eclipse Spyder -- three otherwise similar middling-sized sporty two-plus twos. But these are all conventional soft-top convertibles; which means they're great on warm summer days -- but much more vulnerable to environmental (and human) damage when the day's not so nice. Or the side street where you're about to leave it's a bit on the sketchy side. One slice of the switchblade later and whoever wants in is in.

    You're left with a huge bill -- and an equally big leak.

    Hence the attraction of the folding metal hardtop. Push a button and 30-something seconds later, the car's as solid and tight as a conventional coupe. The GT"s metal panels also won't get moldy, crease or do the other annoying things regular convertibles sometimes do as they age -- especially if they're parked outside.

    Some buyers may be concerned the electric motors that raise and lower the hardtop could eventually fail -- probably doing so at a most inconvenient time, like just before a massive downpour. But this is a potential problem faced by owners of regular convertibles as well -- and in both cases, the manufacturers make provision for emergency manual operation of the top (via hand-operated cranks) so that it can be closed -- if with some difficulty -- should the motors conk out some dark and soon-to-be-stormy night.

    A more substantive problem -- at least for the nominally "sporty" G6 -- is the additional sheetmetal cellulite added by the power hardtop's folding sections, mechanisms and motors -- as well as the structural bracing that had to be added to the chassis to recover the structural rigidity sacrificed by cutting off the fixed-in-place roof.

    All told, these beef up the car's curb weight by some 400 lbs. compared to the standard G6 coupe -- to nearly 4,000 lbs. before adding driver or passenger.

    The issue for the G6 is that like a latter-day Elvis chuffing sweatily through a series of karate chops under the klieg lights, it's hard to be convincingly athletic when you're lugging around a load like that -- especially when the strongest available engine (for now) is a 229-hp 3.9 liter V-6 (in the $29,990 GTP).

    The standard GT's 201-hp 3.5 liter V-6 suffers even more obviously under the yoke of all that bulk.

    It doesn't help matters that Pontiac decided not to offer a manual transmission with either engine -- which further detracts from the sporty car ambiance. There is a manual shift function for the 4-speed automatic -- but it's just not the same as having a clutch and being able to row the gears for yourself.

    Best case scenario is zero to 60 in about 8.5 seconds -- which is a best so-so for a car with sporty pretensions. This is easily the G6's weakest link given Pontiac's performance oriented reputation -- and the way the car's being marketed. It would do fine if its target audience consisted mainly of Camry Solara/Chrysler Sebring-types -- you know, hausefraus and middle aged guys. Right lane drivers. But the Mustang/Eclipse types Pontiac wants to sell this car to may come away from their test drive muttering "where's the beef?"

    Pontiac does have a solution on deck -- in the form of a 250-260 horse V-6 that will become available later in the model year (or in early spring/summer 2007). It's just unfortunate this powertrain wasn't offered from the get-go. Pontiac -- which is supposed to be an enthusiast driver's brand -- may suffer for the disconnect between the G6's toned appearance and its middle-aged-spread performance.

    Like the soon-to-be-dropped GTO, the G6 retractable hardtop may wind up a victim of ineffective marketing and brand positioning -- rather than any defect or problem with the car as such.

    Had Pontiac brought out the new GTO as a the "Pontiac GT" (or something like that -- so long as it wasn't "GTO") there wouldn't have been the inevitable and unfortunate comparisons between the sedate-looking sleeper and its raucous muscle car namesake of the 1960s. Likewise, Pontiac might have made a big mistake over-selling the performance image of the G6 given the absence of anything underhood to back it up.

    Better to focus on the usable back seats, the attractive lines -- and the coolness of a retractable hardtop for less than $30k.

    But then there's that new VW Eos to worry about... .

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    Re: 2007 Pontiac G6 retractable hardtop

    Sux!

    Let's learn a new word today children - V8. Retractable hardtop. Push the button while you are going 90 sometimes in you Pontiac GSUX. Almost as ugly as a GTO <- Barf!

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    Re: 2007 Pontiac G6 retractable hardtop

    Quote Originally Posted by jillsuncle
    Sux!

    Let's learn a new word today children - V8. Retractable hardtop. Push the button while you are going 90 sometimes in you Pontiac GSUX. Almost as ugly as a GTO <- Barf!
    I'd rate it as non-descript rather than ugly. Save ugly for the ones that truly deseve it, like the Asstek!

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    Re: 2007 Pontiac G6 retractable hardtop

    Why take the middle ground? If one of your major investmests is Non-decript, what in Hell are you buying it for? You did not say you were buying one - I understand that.

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Throw 400 horses under the hood and I will say - You are a VERY BEAUTIFUL CAR - HOORAY BEER! : One moment please - Train of Though kicked in.

    Then again the GTO (new faux GTO) has 400 horses. It IS Coyote Ugly. I take back everthing I said about that 20 thousand dollar Pontiac V-6 rip-off.

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    Re: 2007 Pontiac G6 retractable hardtop

    Quote Originally Posted by jillsuncle
    Why take the middle ground? If one of your major investmests is Non-decript, what in Hell are you buying it for? You did not say you were buying one - I understand that.

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Throw 400 horses under the hood and I will say - You are a VERY BEAUTIFUL CAR - HOORAY BEER! : One moment please - Train of Though kicked in.

    Then again the GTO (new faux GTO) has 400 horses. It IS Coyote Ugly. I take back everthing I said about that 20 thousand dollar Pontiac V-6 rip-off.
    Well, I'mnot the one buying it!

    But seriously - for the guy who wants an affordable rectractable hardtop that looks ok, this is a contender - in the same league as, for example, the Chrysler Sebring. Not my thing - or yours. But others have different tastes!

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    Re: 2007 Pontiac G6 retractable hardtop

    Nothing new, really. Ford had one in '58... Yeah, they were a mechanical nightmare and rattled and leaked, but they were RETRACTABLE....<g>

    I think that the 'backwards" opening hood was a pretty good safety measure. Made working on the car a PITA, though.

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    Re: 2007 Pontiac G6 retractable hardtop

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnB
    Nothing new, really. Ford had one in '58....
    Peugeot had one in 1934!

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    Re: 2007 Pontiac G6 retractable hardtop

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Brand
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnB
    Nothing new, really. Ford had one in '58....
    Peugeot had one in 1934!
    Ahh... a frog invention.. I see...

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    Re: 2007 Pontiac G6 retractable hardtop

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnB
    Ahh... a frog invention.. I see...
    Most car-related stuff is! :P

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    Re: 2007 Pontiac G6 retractable hardtop

    I'm not impressed at all with the G6 I recently drove a GT V6 and just thought it wasn't much of a car for the money. The GTO on the other hand I think gets a bad rap here's a car with 400hp and independent rear suspension that can be had for less the 30k at most dealerships. Where else can you get that bang for the buck? I agree with Eric though the should have rebadged it as the pontiac GT or better yet taken the drivetrain and interior then thrown it into a modern verison of a 69 GTO with hideaways that car would be selling better then the new Mustang.

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    Re: 2007 Pontiac G6 retractable hardtop

    Quote Originally Posted by rc74racer
    I'm not impressed at all with the G6 I recently drove a GT V6 and just thought it wasn't much of a car for the money. The GTO on the other hand I think gets a bad rap here's a car with 400hp and independent rear suspension that can be had for less the 30k at most dealerships. Where else can you get that bang for the buck? I agree with Eric though the should have rebadged it as the pontiac GT or better yet taken the drivetrain and interior then thrown it into a modern verison of a 69 GTO with hideaways that car would be selling better then the new Mustang.
    Yep - the Eos is more engaging (see also the new Saturn Aura; nice car). And the GTO works - so long as you're not looking for a "GTO" (an image car with a lot of curb appeal, etc.)

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