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    It ain't sellin' - but it's still great!

    Torrance, Calif. 08/28/2006 --

    Widely considered the quintessential roadster-style sports car, the S2000 is the performance icon for the Honda brand and combines uncompromising racetrack-ready performance with everyday usability.

    Introduced in 1999, the S2000 rewards driving enthusiasts with a potent 237 horsepower, 2.2-liter, 16-valve DOHC VTEC(R) 4-cylinder engine and a precise, short throw 6-speed manual transmission, along with tenacious handling and a perfect 50/50 weight balance. Continuing with significant improvements made to the 2006 model, the 2007 Honda S2000 includes an electronic Drive-by-Wire (DBW) Throttle System(TM), Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA(R)), Maintenance Minder(TM) system, standard headrest speakers, an outside temperature gauge and an engine start button.

    "The Honda S2000 is a true performance vehicle that provides customers with an exciting experience behind the wheel," said John Mendel, senior vice president of American Honda Motor Co., Inc. "Since the S2000 is a car designed by enthusiasts for enthusiasts, it can easily satisfy daily driving needs without sacrificing track-worthy performance."

    The S2000's renowned high-revving, 2.2-liter, 16-valve DOHC VTEC 4-cylinder engine remains the pinnacle of naturally aspirated performance technology, delivering 237 horsepower at 7,800 rpm and 162 lb-ft. of torque at 6,800 rpm. Perfectly complimenting the engine's output characteristics is a compact, longitudinally-mounted, close-ratio 6-speed manual transmission that features a direct linkage for precise shifting and quick throws.

    The S2000 comes equipped with a Drive-by-Wire throttle control system eliminating the need for a mechanical connection between the throttle pedal and the engine. This enables continuous electronic monitoring and adjustment of throttle pedal sensitivity to create an ideal match between throttle response and driving conditions. The system also manages the S2000's cruise control function for greater precision.

    Honda's VSA system makes the S2000 more stable and forgiving during street driving or in inclement weather conditions. Working in concert with the Drive-by-Wire system, VSA continuously monitors yaw rate, steering input, throttle input, and braking pressure to determine if the car is following the driver's intended path, and can independently coordinate each of the disk brakes through the 4-channel anti-lock brake system, along with the throttle, to enhance vehicle stability. While this serves to effectively enhance driver control during acceleration, braking, and cornering, the system can be disabled with the touch of a button when conditions warrant it. To help provide optimum stopping power, the braking system also features Electronic Brake Distribution (EBD) and Brake Assist.

    The S2000's rear-wheel-drive chassis and powertrain layout results in a 50/50 front/rear weight distribution for perfect balance when cornering, while its hybrid monocoque body and "high X-bone frame" results in exceptional structural rigidity. Combined with a front and rear double wishbone suspension, precise electric power steering, and a torque-sensing limited slip differential, the end result is a complete, no compromise, performance package for the enthusiast driver.

    Standard features for the S2000 include a power retractable convertible top, 17-inch aluminum alloy wheels, leather trimmed seats and High Intensity Discharge (HID) headlamps with daytime running lights. An aluminum hardtop and XM(R) Satellite Radio are available as dealer installed options.

    For 2007, the S2000 is available in six colors, including, Laguna Blue Pearl, Silverstone Metallic, New Formula Red, Rio Yellow Pearl, Berlina Black and Grand Prix White.

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    Re: It ain't sellin' - but it's still great!

    I've always liked the look of the S2000 and even considered owning one at some point until I drove one. It's way too small for me and in stock form you really need to wring it out to get it going. I also drove my friends highly modified s2000 it's supercharged with a little over 300hp at the wheels and while off the line acceleration is better it's not there until after the vtec kicks in. I'd rather spend the money on a used vette then get an s2000 with the money my friend has in his now he could have purchased a pre2006 Z06.

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    Re: It ain't sellin' - but it's still great!

    Quote Originally Posted by rc74racer
    I've always liked the look of the S2000 and even considered owning one at some point until I drove one. It's way too small for me and in stock form you really need to wring it out to get it going. I also drove my friends highly modified s2000 it's supercharged with a little over 300hp at the wheels and while off the line acceleration is better it's not there until after the vtec kicks in. I'd rather spend the money on a used vette then get an s2000 with the money my friend has in his now he could have purchased a pre2006 Z06.
    I hear this a lot - and it's a valid criticism; sorta like a really high-strung sport bike that may be an ass-kicker on the track but pretty much sucks on the street (or at least, is hard to live with).

    The Vette's a head kicker.... I had one up to 150-something on a straight stretch near my house - and I wasn't even pushing it very hard. And you can rumble down to 20 mph in sixth and the car has more than enough torque to motor onw ithout changing gears. An incredible piece of work!

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    Sounds great. Just a couple of questions:

    Does it have any leg, head or hip room? I'm 6'3" and tons of fun. Maybe this Utopian Honda is not selling because of sticker shock -- Jeeezzzzzzzz! 8)

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    Eric,

    Please don't become like those dudes at Road and Track. Remember money does not fall from the sky for most of us. Kind of like playing internet poker - pretend the money is real. If you keep it real, you will be able to afford any car you want. I'm a fan. I just want you to weigh the pricetag like it was your hard earned money. Saudi Oil princes don't care about money there are less than 6,000 of them in existence.

    Vman - Delaware

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    Re: It ain't sellin' - but it's still great!

    Quote Originally Posted by jillsuncle
    Eric,

    Please don't become like those dudes at Road and Track. Remember money does not fall from the sky for most of us. Kind of like playing internet poker - pretend the money is real. If you keep it real, you will be able to afford any car you want. I'm a fan. I just want you to weigh the pricetag like it was your hard earned money. Saudi Oil princes don't care about money there are less than 6,000 of them in existence.

    Vman - Delaware
    I hear you - but a couple points:

    * I don't think the S2000 is egregiously over-priced; it'ssort of like buying a Ducati or an Aprilia over a Kawasaki. You're paying a little more for the highre tech (and the S2000's 9,000 RPM VTEC engine is that, if it's aything!)


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    That's cool. I just kind of like cars that turn 3,000 RPM at 150 MPH like that V-12 in Hyundai article. It cost 80K. Take the VTEC money and make a down payment on that luxo-barge that hauls ass and fits people up to 6'6". Try that in S2000. Your turn.

    Vman - Delaware

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    Re: It ain't sellin' - but it's still great!

    Quote Originally Posted by jillsuncle
    That's cool. I just kind of like cars that turn 3,000 RPM at 150 MPH like that V-12 in Hyundai article. It cost 80K. Take the VTEC money and make a down payment on that luxo-barge that hauls ass and fits people up to 6'6". Try that in S2000. Your turn.

    Vman - Delaware
    A fun project would be to graft the S2000's engine onto a bike chassis... 240 hp would make a 'Busa seem like an '83 CB550 by comparison!

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