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    Please Send Moore Troops

    1/10/07

    Dear Mr. President,

    Thanks for your address to the nation. It's good to know you still want to talk to us after how we behaved in November.

    Listen, can I be frank? Sending in 20,000 more troops just ain't gonna do the job. That will only bring the troop level back up to what it was last year. And we were losing the war last year! We've already had over a million troops serve some time in Iraq since 2003. Another few thousand is simply not enough to find those weapons of mass destruction! Er, I mean... bringing those responsible for 9/11 to justice! Um, scratch that. Try this -- BRING DEMOCRACY TO THE MIDDLE EAST! YES!!!

    You've got to show some courage, dude! You've got to win this one! C'mon, you got Saddam! You hung 'im high! I loved watching the video of that -- just like the old wild west! The bad guy wore black! The hangmen were as crazy as the hangee! Lynch mobs rule!!!

    Look, I have to admit I feel very sorry for the predicament you're in. As Ricky Bobby said, "If you're not first, you're last." And you being humiliated in front of the whole world does NONE of us Americans any good.

    Sir, listen to me. You have to send in MILLIONS of troops to Iraq, not thousands! The only way to lick this thing now is to flood Iraq with millions of us! I know that you're out of combat-ready soldiers -- so you have to look elsewhere! The only way you are going to beat a nation of 27 million -- Iraq -- is to send in at least 28 million! Here's how it would work:

    The first 27 million Americans go in and kill one Iraqi each. That will quickly take care of any insurgency. The other one million of us will stay and rebuild the country. Simple.

    Now, I know you're saying, where will I find 28 million Americans to go to Iraq? Here are some suggestions:

    1. More than 62,000,000 Americans voted for you in the last election (the one that took place a year and half into a war we already knew we were losing). I am confident that at least a third of them would want to put their body where there vote was and sign up to volunteer. I know many of these people and, while we may disagree politically, I know that they don't believe someone else should have to go and fight their fight for them -- while they hide here in America.

    2. Start a "Kill an Iraqi" Meet-Up group in cities across the country. I know this idea is so early-21st century, but I once went to a Lou Dobbs Meet-Up and, I swear, some of the best ideas happen after the third mojito. I'm sure you'll get another five million or so enlistees from this effort.

    3. Send over all members of the mainstream media. After all, they were your collaborators in bringing us this war -- and many of them are already trained from having been "embedded!" If that doesn't bring the total to 28 million, then draft all viewers of the FOX News channel.

    Mr. Bush, do not give up! Now is not the time to pull your punch! Don't be a weenie by sending in a few over-tired troops. Get your people behind you and YOU lead them in like a true commander in chief! Leave no conservative behind! Full speed ahead!

    We promise to write. Go get 'em W!

    Yours,

    Michael Moore
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    www.michaelmoore.com



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    "I would have much rather had the hanging Bibical fashion where he hung in the public square for a few days, until the birds pecked his eyes out, and then cut him down and let the dogs feed on him, and the wagons to roll over him until nothing of him existed. But alas, American are so humane."

    This is just the sort of barbaric blood-lust that characterizes the debacle in Iraq; and you'd like even more of it?

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    1. More than 62,000,000 Americans voted for you in the last election (the one that took place a year and half into a war we already knew we were losing).

    How can 62 million people be so dumb? I guess they were more concerned with issues such as gai marriage and abortion because of religious nonsense.

    "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
    -Seneca the Younger


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    >>How can 62 million people be so dumb? I guess they were more concerned with issues such as gai marriage and abortion because of religious nonsense.<<

    That seems to be where the attention was

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    That seems to be where the attention was

    Here's what's really happening. This shows exactly how we are getting screwed:

    http://www.glumbert.com/media/roleplay

    -Don-

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonTom
    That seems to be where the attention was

    Here's what's really happening. This shows exactly how we are getting screwed:

    http://www.glumbert.com/media/roleplay

    -Don-
    That's about the size of it!

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    When I (as a very young man) got into conservative politics, the religious crackpots were a fringe element - and kept to the sidelines. This was in the mid-late 1980s, when the GOP was still dominated by so-called "paleo-cons" (Pat Buchanan/Goldwater/Reaganite types) and limited government Libertarian types.

    I found I could get on board with a lot of that - and did.

    Eventually, I got hired by The Washington Times. At the time, the editorial page editor was a real-deal conservative - and there were guys like Sam Francis writing editorials (Sam was a bitter, angry man - but a true old-time conservative). By the mid-1990s, this began to change. Neo-cons began to fill up the columnist slots - and the paper put a neocon (Tod Lindberg) in as editorial page editor. I began to notice a religious tilt as well. Evangelical types began to filter in - both as hired writers as well as columnists. The old-school conservatives were marginalized - even fired (Sam Frances, Buchanan, Joe Sobran - to name the big names). I began to feel uneasy among these neo-con (and brazenly zionist) apocalypto/"values"/war-loving/big government types and got out, too.

    I have many friends who have become completely alienated from the current Republican Party - not because we are "liberals" but because the party has become something quite different than it was 20 years ago. If you cherish the Constitution, believe in old American traditions of limited government, nationalism and non-intervention; if you believe that religious matters are a question of private conscience, not the basis for a public crusade using government as the cudgel; if you support the rule of law, the physical security of the United States and believe that citizenship is a right to be earned and not a benefit to be given away; if you do not believe that "commerce uber alles" (and "free trade") represents the good life - then the current GOP has nothing for you.

    There are probably millions of disaffected ex-Republicans out there caught in a hopeless Catch-22. It's either the know-nothing fundamentalist boobism and vulture capitalism of The Chimp - or the suffocating interest group socialism of the Democrats.

    My view of the situation is that it's essentially hopeless - and only a matter of time before the country fractures along religious/ethnic/class lines. It won't take much to undo a country held together by fear and force - whose only common ground is a mindless quest for "things"and non-stop vicarious stimulation via professional sports, reality TV and Internet porno.

    I doubt this country will last another 20 years.















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    Quote Originally Posted by ColleenC1
    Damn Eric, I have to say I agree 100% again, if it weren't for the belief in God and Jesus Christ as God incarnate, and the vitriol spewed out about President Bush I don't think there would be any disagreements.

    Maybe we should start a new book now, "The Rise and Fall of the Holy United States of America"
    Well, thanks - but if you stop to consider it, you'll see The Chimp (and his Chimpy policies) embody the things I (and apparently you also) revile. I think the problem for folks such as yourself is you have a blind spot for THe Chimp because he mouths Christian pieties - and you think he's "one of you." In fact, he is one of "them" - the assholes who are ruining this country.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric
    Quote Originally Posted by ColleenC1
    Damn Eric, I have to say I agree 100% again, if it weren't for the belief in God and Jesus Christ as God incarnate, and the vitriol spewed out about President Bush I don't think there would be any disagreements.

    Maybe we should start a new book now, "The Rise and Fall of the Holy United States of America"
    Well, thanks - but if you stop to consider it, you'll see The Chimp (and his Chimpy policies) embody the things I (and apparently you also) revile. I think the problem for folks such as yourself is you have a blind spot for THe Chimp because he mouths Christian pieties - and you think he's "one of you." In fact, he is one of "them" - the assholes who are ruining this country.

    I agree with you on everything and Bush is definitely one of "them."

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    Most of you act like you've got a wedgie. None of you talked this way about Clinton -- you want to talk about arrogance -- there isn't anyone would could knock Clinton off the arrogant pedestal. He has it hand's down.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ColleenC1
    "The Rise and Fall of the Holy United States of America"
    So, are we going to have a pope, a patriarch, chief rabbi, ayatollah, or what? Ya gotta have somebody in charge of general holiness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdm
    So, are we going to have a pope, a patriarch, chief rabbi, ayatollah, or what? Ya gotta have somebody in charge of general holiness.
    Why don't you apply, John? I don't believe there are any prerequisites, and I'd like to see the position filled before Al Sharpton get wind of it.


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    >>So, are we going to have a pope, a patriarch, chief rabbi, ayatollah, or what? Ya gotta have somebody in charge of general holiness.<<

    You could be the Hole King. Totally in charge of Holiness

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    Quote Originally Posted by gail
    Most of you act like you've got a wedgie. None of you talked this way about Clinton -- you want to talk about arrogance -- there isn't anyone would could knock Clinton off the arrogant pedestal. He has it hand's down.

    I think you must be the the one with the wedgie.
    Your underpants must be pulled up so high over your eyes that you can't see what is happening in front of your face.
    LOL.

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    Hi Colleen,

    I think history will record GWB as having made a big error in invading Iraq.

    Also, many of us who owe a great deal to the USA for our freedom find it quite sad to hear people like Cheney describing Rumsfield as "the greatest Secretary of Defence ever", when Cheney's profit via Halliburton would be described by many as inappropriate if not fraudulent. GWB does admit that mistakes have been made, which is good, but I cannot see a populist democracy like the USA making good foreign policy decisions easily. The Dems aren't exactly awash with alternative ideas.

    There ARE a lot of very good advisors to the US government, but GWB didn't listen too them. Still doesn't, probably to save face.

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    Rob, the USA isn't a democracy -- we are a republic. There is an important distinction.

    I love reading the posts - it shows me that my family isn't near as disfunctional as I once thought it was.

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    it shows me that my family isn't near as disfunctional as I once thought it was.

    I've noticed that a lot of religious people come from dysfunctional families. However, I have heard that perhaps MOST families today are considered dysfunctional in some way or another, making dysfunctional families the norm.

    Seems to me that gais come from the best of families. My parents, as well as Tom's parents. were happily married for more than 60 years. Makes me wonder about the "nature - nurture" argument WRT gais.

    -Don-.

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    "Rob, the USA isn't a democracy -- we are a republic. There is an important distinction."

    You are correct - but it's also true that The Chimp is now pursuing a course that is opposed by clear majorities of the public, the Congress - even his own military commanders.

    He has the prerogative to do so, of course - but at some point, a president who refuses to modify his policies when those policies have been shown to be in error and have been rejected by broad swaths of the people he "represents" becomes more andmore like a despot than a leader of an ostensibly "free" state.

    If the troop escalation fails (as it probably will) and the situation in Iraq is the same (or worse) in six months - and The Chimp still refuses to countenance options other than "staying the course" (which s just what his "surge" is, in fact), then it will be clear he is acting as a tyrant. His authority to act on his own counsel is not unlimited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric
    "Rob, the USA isn't a democracy -- we are a republic. There is an important distinction."

    You are correct - but it's also true that

    Oh fer crissakes. The world doesn't actually care about what you call yourselves. Populist republic with democratic three-tier gummint, or industrial hegemony. You are a damn good collection of free people.

    You stopped the war between idealists from Russia and Germany and stopped Japan. Thankyou.


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    >>You stopped the war between idealists from Russia and Germany and stopped Japan. Thankyou.<<

    Hello-- Rob--- Are you feeling well??????????


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