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    Truckin' - go by steam

    A bit off topic but 4 wheels so hope that counts

    A series of photographs taken in Echuca VIC, Australia

    The Echuca Steam Horse & Vintage Rally is held in June every year
    Rex
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    Re: Truckin' - go by steam

    Steam Roller and Truck Makes unknown
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    Re: Truckin' - go by steam

    A Foden Steam truck

    THe last modern Foden truck came off this line in 2006 .... The name no longer exists in the PACCAR brand names.. DAF Kenworth and Peterbilt remain.

    Another UK company swallowed by overseas interests
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    Re: Truckin' - go by steam

    This was my favourite...still being restored and on first outing.
    It was like a horse being held back...just wanted to overtake everything.
    Rex
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    Re: Truckin' - go by steam

    I can identify some of them.

    The blue wagon is a Sentinel. The roller is an Invicta, built by Aveling & Porter; not sure what the wagon alongside it is, but possibly a Yorkshire. The engine under restoration looks like a Fowler, but, again, I'm not sure.

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    Re: Truckin' - go by steam

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Brand
    I can identify some of them.

    The blue wagon is a Sentinel. The roller is an Invicta, built by Aveling & Porter; not sure what the wagon alongside it is, but possibly a Yorkshire. The engine under restoration looks like a Fowler, but, again, I'm not sure.
    Thanks for that information....... Aveling...... they went on to make graders and diesel powered rollers I think

    That Fowler had such a bark to it when they opened the taps ..Lots of torque I imagine....but a handful for the driver in keeping it is a straight line.
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    Re: Truckin' - go by steam

    Quote Originally Posted by Kwozzie1
    Aveling...... they went on to make graders and diesel powered rollers I think
    The company is still in existence, as Aveling & Barford.

    A few Foden thoughts:

    ERF, the company founded by E R Foden after a disagreement with the rest of the board - E R believed diesels were the way forward - still exists as MAN ERF.

    We used to manufacture sintered iron clutch segments for Foden trucks. We had to coat the friction faces with graphite to reduce 'grab' until they were bedded in - they had a few instances of half-shafts breaking as they drove trucks off the production line.

    Did the 1950s two-stroke Foden diesels make it down under? A mate of my dad's used to drive one, & I used to go along for the ride during school holidays. That thing was fast......and noisy! A day in that & you couldn't hear for a week!

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    Re: Truckin' - go by steam

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Brand


    The company is still in existence, as Aveling & Barford.

    A few Foden thoughts:

    ERF, the company founded by E R Foden after a disagreement with the rest of the board - E R believed diesels were the way forward - still exists as MAN ERF.

    We used to manufacture sintered iron clutch segments for Foden trucks. We had to coat the friction faces with graphite to reduce 'grab' until they were bedded in - they had a few instances of half-shafts breaking as they drove trucks off the production line.

    Did the 1950s two-stroke Foden diesels make it down under? A mate of my dad's used to drive one, & I used to go along for the ride during school holidays. That thing was fast......and noisy! A day in that & you couldn't hear for a week!

    We still see ERF and MAN around here in OZ...

    As far as Foden 2-stroke diesels I don't recall them but were they as per the book cover in this link.........
    http://www.pageandblackmore.co.nz/in...gestyle=single

    I do remember 2-stroke diesels in Commer trucks......boy they were noisy too!
    Rex
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    Re: Truckin' - go by steam

    Quote Originally Posted by Kwozzie1
    A far as Foden 2-stroke diesels I don't recall them but were they as per the book cover in this link.........
    The one on the left could be old enough. I'm not sure when they changed over to bought-in (Gardner, I think) engines, but I'd guess the early 1960s.

    To hear what they sounded like, try:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51u4J...elated&search=

    Not very good, as most of the time it's idling, but it gives some idea of the howl they emitted when working hard.

    I do remember 2-stroke diesels in Commer trucks......boy they were noisy too!
    You could hear them a mile away.......Fodens, a mile & a half!

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    Re: Truckin' - go by steam

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Brand

    You could hear them a mile away.......Fodens, a mile & a half!
    Just googled ......found a NZ site devoted to Commer Trucks

    This link has a video on the first truck..... The one with a politician on the billboard.

    http://www.commer.org.nz/Commer%20Co...20Erskine.html

    This is the bark I remember!
    Rex
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    Re: Truckin' - go by steam

    Quote Originally Posted by Kwozzie1
    Just googled ......found a NZ site devoted to Commer Trucks

    This link has a video on the first truck..... The one with a politician on the billboard.

    http://www.commer.org.nz/Commer%20Co...20Erskine.html

    This is the bark I remember!
    I note that your NZ politicians are 3 times better than ours...he's giving you THREE fingers!

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    Re: Truckin' - go by steam

    Quote Originally Posted by Kwozzie1
    This is the bark I remember!
    A good old 'blast from the past'! Commers barked, Fodens howled......and Albions tinkled!

    Remember when you could tell vehicles apart just from the sound they made? Can't do it now!

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    Re: Truckin' - go by steam

    Quote Originally Posted by mrblanche
    Quote Originally Posted by Kwozzie1
    Just googled ......found a NZ site devoted to Commer Trucks

    This link has a video on the first truck..... The one with a politician on the billboard.

    http://www.commer.org.nz/Commer%20Co...20Erskine.html

    This is the bark I remember!
    I note that your NZ politicians are 3 times better than ours...he's giving you THREE fingers!
    Yeah Winnie is quite a polie......not of my choice.....can't speak fo other kiwis here
    Rex
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    Re: Truckin' - go by steam

    Quote Originally Posted by Kwozzie1
    A bit off topic but 4 wheels so hope that counts

    A series of photographs taken in Echuca VIC, Australia

    The Echuca Steam Horse & Vintage Rally is held in June every year
    IMagine that thing headed down I-95!

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    Re: Truckin' - go by steam

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric
    Quote Originally Posted by Kwozzie1
    A bit off topic but 4 wheels so hope that counts

    A series of photographs taken in Echuca VIC, Australia

    The Echuca Steam Horse & Vintage Rally is held in June every year
    IMagine that thing headed down I-95!
    Were steam trucks ever used in the USA in numbers?
    Rex
    On the Sunshine Coast, in the Sunshine State Queensland (QLD), Australia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwozzie1
    Were steam trucks ever used in the USA in numbers?
    Trucks, as in for transport? I don't think so.
    Our rail system grew with our industry, and people lived near their work, hence near a rail, so there wasn't a need to haul anything very far from a rail...

    [
    ... and then the world changed. At least, ours did. We moved away from the factories when we clustered our mass produced houses together, away from rails. Now we couldn't live without trucks, at least not easily, even if we hadn't torn up most of our rails to recycle into armor.
    ]

    We did have steam engines, pulled or dragged from field to field and used as portable stationary power for threshing machines and such. It was simple enough to turn them into 'traction engines', so they could lumber from field to field under their own power. With the worm- gear steering, they weren't responsive enough to plow a furrow, and with their low speed, they wouldn't be very good for extended highway travel, so they really weren't tractors, and they really, really weren't trucks.



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    Re: Truckin' - go by steam

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeHalloran

    We did have steam engines, pulled or dragged from field to field and used as portable stationary power for threshing machines and such. It was simple enough to turn them into 'traction engines', so they could lumber from field to field under their own power. With the worm- gear steering, they weren't responsive enough to plow a furrow, and with their low speed, they wouldn't be very good for extended highway travel, so they really weren't tractors, and they really, really weren't trucks.

    Traction engines in NZ I just remember! but mainly at Agricultural shows as the Combine/Header Harvester had taken the place of the old threshing mills.
    Rex
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