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    Chinese involvement in Afghanistan?

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/inring.htm

    According to the officials, the Iranians, in buying the arms, asked Chinese state-run suppliers to expedite the transfers and to remove serial numbers to prevent tracing their origin. China, for its part, offered to transport the weapons in order to prevent the weapons from being interdicted.
    The weapons were described as "late-model" arms that have not been seen in the field before and were not left over from Saddam Hussein's rule in Iraq.
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    Re: Chinese involvement in Afghanistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by chiph
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/inring.htm

    According to the officials, the Iranians, in buying the arms, asked Chinese state-run suppliers to expedite the transfers and to remove serial numbers to prevent tracing their origin. China, for its part, offered to transport the weapons in order to prevent the weapons from being interdicted.
    The weapons were described as "late-model" arms that have not been seen in the field before and were not left over from Saddam Hussein's rule in Iraq.
    Chip H.
    They probably see it as a business, the Chinese are the most active traders in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdm

    They probably see it as a business, the Chinese are the most active traders in the world.
    It's a worry, this amorality about arms exports.

    But the US still makes fragmentation bombs and Israel used them in Lebanon.

    And Condoleeza has to appease Israel and having sided with Fatah will find some position which:
    a:/ sustains US presence in the Middle East
    b:/ prevents any strong single Muslim or secular movement
    c:/ allows effective extraction of oil

    The Chinese position is less complex. They will trade with anyone.

    ..but don't any of you in the US take moral high ground on the issue.


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    Quote Originally Posted by robmcg
    The Chinese position is less complex. They will trade with anyone.

    ..but don't any of you in the US take moral high ground on the issue.

    That has traditionally been the British position, too. Their ships were in Haiphong all the time.

    "A nation of bloody shopkeepers." Somebody else said it, not me!

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    They probably see it as a business, the Chinese are the most active traders in the world.

    They don't see it as a business, they as we have been speaking over the past years have been pouriing Billions into building up their military capabilities.

    They are a country to be watched very closely. They are the only country to boast of a 200 million man army.

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    It's a worry, this amorality about arms exports.

    That comment is what one might expect from a nation with the industrial capacity of Zimbabwe.

    But the US still makes fragmentation bombs and Israel used them in Lebanon.

    And what you you use to blow people up?

    ..but don't any of you in the US take moral high ground on the issue.

    We are the moral high ground, maybe not always right but at least trying. What the hell has NZ done independently in it's entire existence? Blow up the Maori and then in a century later fit of guilt give every town, hill, rock and pebble a funny sounding name?

    New Zealand is of less consequence than two pimples on a fourteen year old girl.


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    Re: Chinese involvement in Afghanistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by jdm
    We are the moral high ground, maybe not always right but at least trying. What the hell has NZ done independently in it's entire existence? New Zealand is of less consequence than two pimples on a fourteen year old girl.
    Fought on your side in two world wars.

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    Re: Chinese involvement in Afghanistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by robmcg
    Quote Originally Posted by jdm
    We are the moral high ground, maybe not always right but at least trying. What the hell has NZ done independently in it's entire existence? New Zealand is of less consequence than two pimples on a fourteen year old girl.
    Fought on your side in two world wars.
    But only because the King told you to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdm

    Fought on your side in two world wars.
    But only because the King told you to.
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    Well, you guys were quite handy when we wanted a bit of targeted bombing. At least on the occasions when you could hit a target...

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    Re: Chinese involvement in Afghanistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by robmcg


    Well, you guys were quite handy when we wanted a bit of targeted bombing. At least on the occasions when you could hit a target...
    Much better now, you want some help with that whinging neighbor? We can take him out and not disturb those sunbathing in your garden.

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    Re: Chinese involvement in Afghanistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by jdm

    Much better now, you want some help with that whinging neighbor? We can take him out and not disturb those sunbathing in your garden.
    The sunbathing is not very popular this week. Might be the snow inland. Young people are very soft today.

    The whinging Pom neighbour left years ago. Occasionally he is seen about the place, ranting to some poor person about his welfare rights and how hard his life...

    It's gonna be cold tonight. At least we have Coro St. If we still have power... and I have bought a new toy train...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColleenC2
    They are a country to be watched very closely. They are the only country to boast of a 200 million man army.
    Wrong, by a factor of almost 100. Less than 3 million men in their army, according to everything I can find.

    To have a 200,000,000 man army, they would have to have every military age man in the country in uniform, since that is nearly 1/6 of the their total population.

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    Re: Chinese involvement in Afghanistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by robmcg
    Quote Originally Posted by jdm

    Much better now, you want some help with that whinging neighbor? We can take him out and not disturb those sunbathing in your garden.
    The sunbathing is not very popular this week. Might be the snow inland. Young people are very soft today.

    The whinging Pom neighbour left years ago. Occasionally he is seen about the place, ranting to some poor person about his welfare rights and how hard his life...

    It's gonna be cold tonight. At least we have Coro St. If we still have power... and I have bought a new toy train...
    I thought you had sold all of the rolling stock, pulled up the tracks, and were gone forever from the toy train business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdm
    I thought you had sold all of the rolling stock, pulled up the tracks, and were gone forever from the toy train business.
    I sold all the US-prototype stuff.
    It would not be good to sell the British-prototype stuff. I covered the Great Table with a plain bedsheet, but sneak back into the [frozen cold] front room from time to live to re-live the glories of the Empire. All the Brit modelled are stored in shoe-boxes with tissue-paper packing. and full labelling for quick retrieval. There are a lot of engines, carriages and wagons. Recent photos are taken on a 6' x 14" board. I was thinking of added some trees and grass, but it's a bit American...

    here is yesterday's purchase. [vendor's pic] You can have full tech details if you desire... it's a 1936 Collett design God's Wonderful Railway general purpose engine, which worked until 1966 between London and Wales mostly. Mixed traffic up to around 75mph. Reliable and an exemplar of a GWR boiler design first used in 1904






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    Re: Chinese involvement in Afghanistan?

    I'm trying to think of the relevance of 1904 GWR boiler design to Chinese involvement in Afghanistan, but can only say that quite clearly you have led me astray with your incessant questions about trains... the train in the above posts worked during an era when Britain divested itself of involvement in Afghanistan, Pakistan and India.

    As far as I know, China has no interest in Afghanistan. Tibet, yes, And oil, yes, but currently it is buying a lot of coal from Australia. Perhaps it is buyuing gas from Russia...? It certainly needs a lot of energy to keep its masses contented.

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