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    S & W Model 500

    Got a chance to shoot one of these over the weekend in Charlotte. This is currently the world's most powerful handgun.

    The recoil & muzzle blast is ummm, impressive. But the muzzle rise was pretty well controlled (considering the cartridge) by the integral muzzle brake. The bullets in the factory loads we used were .500 inches in diameter and 400 grains, with a muzzle energy of 2877 ft-lbs (12.7 mm and 25.9 grams, 3901 newton-meters, respectively).

    Fun? Not really. But if you're hunting wild boar, this is the handgun you want.

    Chip H.


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    Re: S & W Model 500

    Half an inch is an awfully big entrance wound.

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    Re: S & W Model 500

    Quote Originally Posted by misterdecibel
    Half an inch is an awfully big entrance wound.
    Just imagine the exit wound!

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    Re: S & W Model 500

    Double action, too! Impressive -

    Is that built on the standard N frame?

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    Re: S & W Model 500

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric
    Just imagine the exit wound!
    With full-jacketed rounds, about the same as from a .50 cal machinegun. With frangible rounds, as big as a hubcap.


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    Re: S & W Model 500

    Quote Originally Posted by jdm
    Double action, too! Impressive -

    Is that built on the standard N frame?
    They created a new frame for it -- the X frame. The length of the rounds did not permit them to use the N frame, which is normally used for .44 Magnum and 10mm.

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    Re: S & W Model 500

    Quote Originally Posted by D_E_Davis
    Quote Originally Posted by Eric
    Just imagine the exit wound!
    With full-jacketed rounds, about the same as from a .50 cal machinegun. With frangible rounds, as big as a hubcap.
    I always use federal Hydrashock hollow points in the .45 on the theory that if I ever do need to point it at another person, I want that SOB to go down fast and hard and never get up again....





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    Re: S & W Model 500

    Quote Originally Posted by chiph
    Quote Originally Posted by jdm
    Double action, too! Impressive -

    Is that built on the standard N frame?
    They created a new frame for it -- the X frame. The length of the rounds did not permit them to use the N frame, which is normally used for .44 Magnum and 10mm.

    Chip H.
    Other than simply being "big n' bad" is there any real-world use for this gun? It seems to be like the Desert Eagle; impressive to show off, but very hard to fire accurately, impossible to carry (unless you're Hulk Hogan-sized) and thus, virtually useless for the purpose that most handguns exist to serve - personal self-defense, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric
    Other than simply being "big n' bad" is there any real-world use for this gun? It seems to be like the Desert Eagle; impressive to show off, but very hard to fire accurately, impossible to carry (unless you're Hulk Hogan-sized) and thus, virtually useless for the purpose that most handguns exist to serve - personal self-defense, etc.
    Hunting and self-defense against bears (they sell a 2-1/2" barrel version for Alaskan bush pilots) seem to be it's purpose. As well as bragging rights, of course. I would imagine it's geared towards boar hunting.

    The Desert Eagle, while an excellent Hollywood movie gun, is not all that reliable -- I wouldn't trust my life to one. They have a tendency towards feeding problems where the round gets hung up trying to feed into the chamber. The clearing operation takes a *long* time compared to a 1911.

    However, both the Desert Eagle and the 500 S&W are very accurate with the right sights and in the hands of a skilled shooter. The Desert Eagle because of it's fixed barrel with polygonal rifling (unusual in a semi-auto), and the 500 S&W simply because the barrel is 10.5" long.

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    Re: S & W Model 500

    Quote Originally Posted by chiph
    Quote Originally Posted by Eric
    Other than simply being "big n' bad" is there any real-world use for this gun? It seems to be like the Desert Eagle; impressive to show off, but very hard to fire accurately, impossible to carry (unless you're Hulk Hogan-sized) and thus, virtually useless for the purpose that most handguns exist to serve - personal self-defense, etc.
    Hunting and self-defense against bears (they sell a 2-1/2" barrel version for Alaskan bush pilots) seem to be it's purpose. As well as bragging rights, of course. I would imagine it's geared towards boar hunting.

    The Desert Eagle, while an excellent Hollywood movie gun, is not all that reliable -- I wouldn't trust my life to one. They have a tendency towards feeding problems where the round gets hung up trying to feed into the chamber. The clearing operation takes a *long* time compared to a 1911.

    However, both the Desert Eagle and the 500 S&W are very accurate with the right sights and in the hands of a skilled shooter. The Desert Eagle because of it's fixed barrel with polygonal rifling (unusual in a semi-auto), and the 500 S&W simply because the barrel is 10.5" long.

    Chip H.
    I'm no ballistics expert, but wouldn't a .45 auto drop a bear pretty effectively too?

    Mine holds 10-plus-1 rounds (11 total with one chambered) and I can empty the clip pretty damn fast!

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    Re: S & W Model 500

    A .45 is borderline for a black bear like we've got around here.
    A grizzly or polar bear would just get annoyed.

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    Re: S & W Model 500

    Quote Originally Posted by chiph
    A .45 is borderline for a black bear like we've got around here.
    A grizzly or polar bear would just get annoyed.

    Chip H.
    Then I hope I never encounter one in the woods!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric

    Then I hope I never encounter one in the woods!
    I hope so too! A grizzly, a polar bear, or an Alaskan brown bear is huge, and can run faster that you. Even a fatal shot doesn't drop one right away, so you need sone distance. I don't think even this S&W 500 would be the weapon of choice. The Alaskan hunter guides wanted their clients to have a .300 H&H, a 358 H&H, or a Weatherby 300 the last time I checked.


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    Quote Originally Posted by D_E_Davis
    I don't think even this S&W 500 would be the weapon of choice.
    Nope. It's the weapon of last-resort in those cases.

    Of course, you could also pick the person in your party that you like the least, and just make sure you can run faster than them...


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    Quote Originally Posted by chiph
    Of course, you could also pick the person in your party that you like the least, and just make sure you can run faster than them...
    And in the same direction - if you all scatter you give Ms. Bear choices...(g).

    Had an Alaska brownie pop out of the brush and start following me one time, about 100 yds back - now that was an eerie experience.


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    Quote Originally Posted by chiph
    Of course, you could also pick the person in your party that you like the least, and just make sure you can run faster than them...


    Chip H.
    Don't bother shooting the bear, just shoot that person in the leg!

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    Re: S & W Model 500

    Quote Originally Posted by D_E_Davis
    Quote Originally Posted by Eric

    Then I hope I never encounter one in the woods!
    I hope so too! A grizzly, a polar bear, or an Alaskan brown bear is huge, and can run faster that you. Even a fatal shot doesn't drop one right away, so you need sone distance. I don't think even this S&W 500 would be the weapon of choice. The Alaskan hunter guides wanted their clients to have a .300 H&H, a 358 H&H, or a Weatherby 300 the last time I checked.
    Crikey again!

    I am glad all we have around here are the much smaller, less aggressive brown bears... though the locals say there are cougars in the deep woods.... big kitty!

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