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    Who hates football?

    Just curious about this.

    I've never been much into watching football or professional sports of any kind. I'd surf a game sometimes, but never invested much emotion in who won or lost. It was just a game; entertainment like any other TV show.

    But I've come to actively loathe pro and college sports because of the ridiculous, obsessive veneration of atha-letes that has taken over the country; the way sports "news" leads the evening broadcast (displacing information about events that actually matter), the grotesque elevation of players and coaches to demi-god status (a fuhhhhtball coach will earn millions annually while a brilliant scientist/professor/educator earns a fraction of that; a thug scumbag like Michael Vick "earns" $70 million... for playing a god-damned game)... by the way acquiring knowledge at university has been displaced and eclipsed by the rabid quest to field a team; by the way millions of people invest their entire identities in "their" team - plastering stickers and flags all over their cars and spending entire weekends gaping at a TV instead of actually doing something on their own. Often, these people are belligerent, obese, near alcoholics - or real-deal alkies - who bray like crazed donkeys in tune with the see-sawing fortunes of "their" team. "We" won! "We" scored! Duhhhhhh.......

    Etc.

    How many of you share my bubbling hatred of football?


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    "How many of you share my hatred of football? "

    Me, of course.

    But I am a fruit. I am not supposed to be interested in such sports. What's your excuse?

    -Don-

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    Re: Who hates football?

    Quote Originally Posted by DonTom
    "How many of you share my hatred of football? "

    Me, of course.

    But I am a fruit. I am not supposed to be interested in such sports. What's your excuse?

    -Don-
    Maybe we both have brains - and use them? ;D

    The funny thing is I'm more of a jock than my fuhhhtball worshipping friends. (I run 6-7 miles a couple times a week; lift weights almost every day and can bench press a little over 300 pounds, which is pretty damn good for 41 years old. I also participate in some pretty intense/active pastimes such as dirt bike riding, sport bikes, etc. I still have a 32 inch waist - and don't look much different than I did in college. Most of my fuhhhtball-obsessed friends, meanwhile, are at least 20 pounds heavy and in the "easy fit" category of clothing.)

    PS: This is purely anecdotal, but of my friends who are football-aholics, several are vocally anti-gay and very religious, too. Do you suppose there's a correlation? Then there's Chimp fervor.... also apparently associated with love of fuhhhhtball.

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    Re: Who hates football?

    I watch one football game a year, the Superbowl, mostly just as a matter of principle. I usually fall asleep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misterdecibel
    I watch one football game a year, the Superbowl, mostly just as a matter of principle. I usually fall asleep.
    I used to pay vague attention; now, as a matter of principle, I do everything inmy power not to allow so much as knowledge of who's playing to enter my consciousness.

    Fuuuhtball and Britney Spears love child are of equal non-interest to me!

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    A football quiz...

    1) What does the average Ohio State player get on his SATs?
    ..........Drool.


    (2) What do you get when you put thirty-two Arkansas cheerleaders in one room?
    .........A full set of teeth.


    (3) How do you get an Iowa cheerleader into your dorm room?
    .........Grease her hips and push.


    (4) How do you get a Michigan State graduate off your porch?
    .........Pay him for the pizza.


    (5) How d o you know if a Florida State football player has a girlfriend?
    ........There is tobacco spit on both sides of his pickup.


    (6) Why is the Notre Dame football team like a possum?
    .........Because they play dead at home and get killed on the road.


    (7) What are the longest three years of an Nebraska football player's life?
    .........His freshman year.


    (8) How many Michigan freshmen does it take to change a light bulb?
    .........None -- that's a sophomore course.


    (9) Where was O. J. Headed in the white Bronco?
    ........ Bloomington, Indiana. He knew that the police would never look at IU for a Heisman Trophy winner.


    AND FINALLY (drum roll and cymbal crash).....


    (10) Why did Tennessee choose orange as their team color?
    .........You can wear it to the game on Saturday, hunting on Sunday, and picking up trash along the highways the rest of the week



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    Re: Who hates football?

    I object to the actual game much less than I do to the tyranny of the airwaves. Sticks-and-balls nazis seem to feel some god-given right for complete control of any TV in their path, for the duration of the season.

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    I find actually football fine; it involves all aspects of life. I was very good at it until about 14 years when I enjoyed running more than the palava and rubbish which went with the team thing. And it's a very 'team' game, like becoming a director of Goldman Sachs...

    I think one shoukd seperate watching and participating.

    I like watching some football because I understand some of it... NZ rugby or FIFA 'soccer' but have little interest in big cyborgs with masks chasing a ball. OTOH I like F1 racing and MotoGP bikes... because I understand part of it...

    Oddly, I don't get much out of watching running unless it's well edited or affects me personally. FWIW the NZ holds or has recently held world championship records in several obscure sports like mountain-biking female, shot put [female], netball, triathalon [male] and we even held the Americas Cup for a while there... motocross we got 2nd for a few years and nobody in NZ noticed. NZer Scott Dixon is 8th on the list of top race drivers for 2007.. Peking is going to be a HUGE event as will the US election.

    All to do with high-definition digital tech really... does anyone actually BUY music anymore, or let advertisers and programmers select what they see on a screen.... 5 years and we will have the tech if not the mindset to have everything free!

    That's partly why big bands tour. No money in recording. Let's see what Hollywood does... everything done in digital reality...?

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    "This is purely anecdotal, but of my friends who are football-aholics,"

    Do they play it or only watch it? Those who play it get some exercise and there's nothing wrong with that.

    But most footbalholics I have known, only watch it as they drink a beer and get fat. The only exercise they get is yelling at the TV about how somebody threw a ball or whatever.

    "several are vocally anti-gay and very religious, too."

    Out here, it seems even the religious usually are not anti-gay. That's because in the SF area everybody seems to have several gay friends. I know of several footballholics who are religious and are not a bit anti-gay. But here in the SF area, most people don't expect everybody to be exactly like themselves.

    By far, in this area, I am much more anti-religious than the religious is anti gay. I have to admit that, based on my own anecdotal findings.

    -Don-



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    Quote Originally Posted by DonTom
    Out here, it seems even the religious usually are not anti-gay. That's because in the SF area everybody seems to have several gay friends. I know of several footballholics who are religious and are not a bit anti-gay. But here in the SF area, most people don't expect everybody to be exactly like themselves.

    By far, in this area, I am much more anti-religious than the religious is anti gay. I have to admit that, based on my own anecdotal findings.

    -Don- [/color][/size]
    I think gay is fine, but resistance to it silly.
    Similarly fear has made the USA a place of not just freedom but now it probably runs on inertia.
    I will recall now a run with serious machinery.

    How would you have felt if you the train from Carlisle to Euston [London] about 250 miles, had a locomotive handed-over the fireman leaving said the engine had bad coal; it was dusty, full od stones.. and this was a train due in London already 15 minutes late? !
    The fire after coming down the 'Waverely Route' was a 'V2' and it was wartime and the train was to get 'double signalling' and the new driver was and old Glasgow and South Western man and he had only three-or-so runs with 'V2' never more than , there was only 150 on the gauge in spite of the downhill.

    There were bombing raid on the Midlands, York got a severe bashing. We were in complete blackout...

    The train would be on a nine-hour timing for 393 miles from Glasgow, not the pre-war seven, but after this, well, what a chance to find out what Gresley could do; we didn't get a semaphore, we got a cold, "Go for it" for Euston. And the man with the train advices had another man behind even as four more carriages wertre added so we had 14 behind.

    Ten over the hill? It was a blackout schedule. Fourtreen now

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    It does no one harm to read, since I have just received a reply saying they didn't understand.

    Ah well.
    WE got the fire around, after Carlisle, it's not official we had a sick engine, a 3-cyliinder and the train advices said, "make all speed"...

    On the hill we took turns, running with was the heaviest; we got some clean coal after me the fireman we had taken on board . with the engine a still losing pressure from ... the fire from roll from the hills he was clearly all trousers. I got up myself, poiltely blaming Gresley and raked it out a bit, and did a fatherly thing, the boys were off at war.

    We both were up on the coal tender, S t is was cold we raked coal back...

    I found the engine pulled well at about 33 percent; the fireman was excellent with the signals... and we put her into cruise through a completely dark Crewe. We her stopped by flashing red lights in he black... I knew the station; brakes on in what was eerie.

    There were no lightrs; I brought the train down in a single applcation. There was nothing but the dark.
    "How is your coal?"

    It was probably less than two tons. There was a 'Fat Controller' now in the light. No, not a fat man, but....

    have a J27 to push" he spoke with an Oxford accent. His face the same as the darkness I saw 220lbs and the fireman come over and we gad a face which defies words.
    "No", I think wecan make it, are troughs full?

    I get message which don't know war.
    We declined the J27 and ran over the Great Central with clear signals, heartend by the good coal and carried a passener, the good coal we found enough, the passernger was connected to war.We got no pressure until my I realised my 'ticket' to run into the 'City', but there were no lights; it was lilke racing on the Isle of Man, the passenger got up on the coal and came back as black as we were....

    The V2s are good a everytihral 'slows' and it was a night after the 'bombing' at there were no bombimgs as I have heard,l we approach London with everything dark, we had no pressure after I kept cutoff at 30% too long but we got I think around 80mph downhill, arriving very late, but I know how to get those things going

    Feel an arrival in London they way it felt. Not the everyday stuff.. the V2 in this case was an object of bemusement; they hathe 'Sleeper''hich was and had been despatched with 'Princess Royal' lt for the north under blackout.

    [FWIW V2s are a class of engine as well as bombs from Germany]
    The'Princess' a marvellous thing, we were late and as I stood with the V2 with no fuel left; the 'Princess' had coal piled very high, still n maroon colours, and the half-moon-light I was drifting under brakes and saw her starting;

    well out of the platform this could only mean about eighteen cars, still slipping

    I was not sure, but the driver nodded to me.. we met once and he wanted to know how the V2s went, shorthand for acknowledged...



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    Re: Who hates football?

    Excellent!

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    "Do they play it or only watch it? Those who play it get some exercise and there's nothing wrong with that."

    They just watch; total passive couch potatoes - which is oneof things I hate about fuhhhtball. They'd rather spend a Saturday gaping at "their" team, living vicariously, than actually doing something for themselves.

    "But most footbalholics I have known, only watch it as they drink a beer and get fat. The only exercise they get is yelling at the TV about how somebody threw a ball or whatever."

    Pree-cisely!


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    "I find actually football fine; it involves all aspects of life. I was very good at it until about 14 years when I enjoyed running more than the palava and rubbish which went with the team thing. And it's a very 'team' game, like becoming a director of Goldman Sachs..."

    I don't object to the game, as such. I enjoyed pick-up games when I was a kid, too.

    What I recoil from is the hero-worship of players, the disgusting exorbitant salaries; the furious commercialism, the way coverage of it drowns out things that matter (such as real news)... the way it becomes an ersatz life for so many fans - "their" team; "we" won - and so on.

    Ah, nope. You didn't win a damn thing, friend. A team of professional entertainers did. It had nothing to do with you - and these entertainers don't represent "your" city (or whatever). They are paid to perform and would perform just as readily in Dallas as they would in New England. Investing emotional energy in whether one of these bands of paid entertainers wins a game or loses a game is as ridiculous as getting excited over the success of Britney Spears' latest album. Enjoy the music (or the spectacle) if you like; but stop hero-owrshipping and personalizing the thing. Ok?


    Get a clue - and get a life!

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    "A team of professional entertainers did."

    And the way they trade players and all that in pro sports, the "we in "we won!" means little more than where the business office is located.

    -Don-

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    Re: Who hates football?

    Quote Originally Posted by DonTom
    "A team of professional entertainers did."

    And the way they trade players and all that in pro sports, the "we in "we won!" means little more than where the business office is located.

    -Don-
    Amen!

    The growing thuggishness of pro sports also really turns me off. It seems a week doesn't go by without some ugly incident - rape, beatings, animal abuse - being reported.

    The spectacle of some street thug being elevated to godhood because he has animalistic athletic ability- he can throw aball; he can run real fast - makes me sick.

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    Re: Who hates football?

    I managed to go the entire holiday (New Year's, a High Holy Day for Fuhhhhtball) without even hearing about "the game."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric
    I managed to go the entire holiday (New Year's, a High Holy Day for Fuhhhhtball) without even hearing about "the game."
    Me too!

    -Don-

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    UK football is still good. Manchester City!

    US football and ice-hockey seems thuggish by comparison.

    In the FA World Final and there was a head-butting which stopped the world. US winter sports is inclined to brawling, baseball not much better, and your runners are druggies...

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    My idea of how football should be played is to put 11 players on each team on the field and keep them there for the full game unless they are injured past usefulness!
    I played when I was a kid--- I also remember the day I quit playing because it looked as if it were dangerous and I could get hurt.
    I watch maybe 3 games a year-- The Stupid Bowl being one of them!That one because it's a good excuse to have a few friends over for some BS and food!

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