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    Obama will Win

    Obama will win because he offers hope. And has money.

    But then he will be assassinated.

    Leaving the US rudderless, as ever....

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    Quote Originally Posted by robmcg
    Obama will win because he offers hope. And has money.

    But then he will be assassinated.

    Leaving the US rudderless, as ever....
    I think he may win; his popualarity can be seen not so much as an endorsement of Obama - but as a repudiation of the Establishment (which Hillary represents) and of Bush especially...

    If someone takes a shot at him, we'll have race riots. Maybe a race war. So much for "diversity" being a stength.....

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    I don't buy it. Obama will not be shot. I don't think that he represents a threat to the established order at all. His socialist leaning corporatist agenda is little different from Clinton, and McCan for that matter. Reagan, however, did. He was not a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission, like Carter, Ford, Bush1 and Clinton. The people who tend to take shots at presidents represent a wacko contingent of the established order. Hinckley who made an attempt on Regan's life was connected with George H.W. Bush. If you watch old state of the Union addresses, you will see Bush behind Reagan with looks that would kill. He looked way angrier than the drunk Democrat next to him. I have no doubt that bush was somehow connected to that plot to kill Reagan.

    We will probably never know who shot Kennedy, but I bet that Lee Harvey Oswald wasn't alone in that one.

    Say what you will. If it sounds conspiratorial and whatnot, it is.. .and I don't care. The people that we are talking about, Bush, Clinton, McCain, and Obama are vermin and cockroaches of the worst kind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry
    Say what you will. If it sounds conspiratorial and whatnot, it is.. .and I don't care. The people that we are talking about, Bush, Clinton, McCain, and Obama are vermin and cockroaches of the worst kind.
    Or to put it in a slightly different way - they are politicians.

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    So what is the malaise in the US upper echelons of political structure?

    Politicians are always, well, politicians, but something in the Constitution needs change? Or is it the nature of media?

    Most of the world has huge respect for America, even if reluctant to admit it. And besides, you have the best weapons. With that in mind McCain might be the best Chief Executive, but if there is discontent about the structure...? and he becomes a lame duck...

    Better minds than mine will hopefully prevail!

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    "We will probably never know who shot Kennedy, but I bet that Lee Harvey Oswald wasn't alone in that one.

    Say what you will. If it sounds conspiratorial and whatnot, it is.. .and I don't care. "

    I don't disagree.

    "The people that we are talking about, Bush, Clinton, McCain, and Obama are vermin and cockroaches of the worst kind."

    I agree here, also.

    I don't consider Obama a friend of freedom or much of anything else positive; I just want to see Hildebeast suffer a public humiliation - and send a big FU to GWB!


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    Quote Originally Posted by robmcg
    So what is the malaise in the US upper echelons of political structure?

    Politicians are always, well, politicians, but something in the Constitution needs change? Or is it the nature of media?

    Most of the world has huge respect for America, even if reluctant to admit it. And besides, you have the best weapons. With that in mind McCain might be the best Chief Executive, but if there is discontent about the structure...? and he becomes a lame duck...

    Better minds than mine will hopefully prevail!
    Our Constitution - and the concept of free association and a government by consent of the governed - was destroyed in 1865 by the first Republican President, Abe Lincoln.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric

    I don't consider Obama a friend of freedom or much of anything else positive; I just want to see Hildebeast suffer a public humiliation - and send a big FU to GWB!
    Are you advocating arnarchy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by robmcg
    Quote Originally Posted by Eric

    I don't consider Obama a friend of freedom or much of anything else positive; I just want to see Hildebeast suffer a public humiliation - and send a big FU to GWB!
    Are you advocating arnarchy?
    No. But I would like to say FU to the GOP and the entitlement class that runs the government we have...

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    ah. There is discontent among the peasants!

    I think back around 1700AD a few constables or a detatchment of similar style would be despatched, troublemakers charged with sedition or smuggling and imprisoned awaiting due process of law...

    Some of the people in GWB's early administration strike me as thinking rather like this, Wolfowitz was particularly chilling.

    OTOH some US academic luminaries would be better breaking rocks in a penitentiary... John Pilger comes to mind.
    This process of obtaining power is surely just as rotten as ever? I get the impression that political candidates are just riding a roller-coaster fuelled by ego... same with Pilger. ...but I see no alternative but British Parliamentary Representation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robmcg

    OTOH some US academic luminaries would be better breaking rocks in a penitentiary... John Pilger comes to mind.
    This process of obtaining power is surely just as rotten as ever? I get the impression that political candidates are just riding a roller-coaster fuelled by ego... same with Pilger. ...but I see no alternative but British Parliamentary Representation.
    Could I have a rotten borough, please? I'd give you 10%.

    And who is John Pilger, the academic? I have a friend of that name who is a very bright sort but he's a retired aviator.

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    And who is John Pilger, the academic? I have a friend of that name who is a very bright sort but he's a retired aviator.
    I think he, the academic? has just published more stuff... it took a while to recall the name, he is part of some new film about he errors of the world and was being interviewed by phone while I drove across the Plains the other day. yes the 'academic' and what an unpleasant man he was!

    It's one thing to disagree on a point of logic or general feeling even, but this guy came across as being just simply pig-headed and unpleasant. I personally like some of his ideas, but his personal nature left me cold. There were kids like this in our class at High School, but in the end they were all just ordinary kids. Pilger was like the type who did the BS thing about sexusl conquests and you knew it was BS but he still got the academic posting... and his defence to most argument was a variation on the ad-hominen.

    With a 40 year reunion of my HS grad class coming up, I am rather pleased that I can be prepresented by proxy and not have to go!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdm
    And who is John Pilger, the academic? I have a friend of that name who is a very bright sort but he's a retired aviator.
    I think he, the academic? has just published more stuff... it took a while to recall the name, he is part of some new film about he errors of the world and was being interviewed by phone while I drove across the Plains the other day. yes the 'academic' and what an unpleasant man he was!

    It's one thing to disagree on a point of logic or general feeling even, but this guy came across as being just simply pig-headed and unpleasant. I personally like some of his ideas, but his personal nature left me cold. There were kids like this in our class at High School, but in the end they were all just ordinary kids. Pilger was like the type who did the BS thing about sexusl conquests and you knew it was BS but he still got the academic posting... and his defence to most argument was a variation on the ad-hominen.

    With a 40 year reunion of my HS grad class coming up, I am rather pleased that I can be prepresented by proxy and not have to go!
    Your John Pilger is an Australian journalist.

    I dunno about attending the reunion - if you haven't kept up it's likely to be a sad experience. I went to a 50th and knew only a handful - I had seen virtually no one since finishing HS. Further, the people I had hoped to see did not show up due to death or some similarly lame exccuse.

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    Pilger lives and publishes in NY...

    I have no intention of attending a reunion buy enjoy the memories.

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    Looks like Obama got slapped pretty good in Texas and Ohio.

    I think that a lot of that has to do with Bush Limpdick talking his dittobrained morons into voting for the Hildebeast in the primary. I was listening to some talkshows and half of the morons who called in said that they did this.

    I hate the way these talkers can seemingly manipulate the political process like this.

    Since I don't have a nickel in that chicken fight, I don't really care, but listening to that shrieking for 8 years assuming we last that long, is sickening.

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    Well, eight years of shrieking could be amusing if one develops the right sense of humor. The country is so deep in the toilet right now that she probably could not make things worse.

    This is not to say that I would ever vote for that thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry
    Looks like Obama got slapped pretty good in Texas and Ohio.

    I think that a lot of that has to do with Bush Limpdick talking his dittobrained morons into voting for the Hildebeast in the primary. I was listening to some talkshows and half of the morons who called in said that they did this.

    I hate the way these talkers can seemingly manipulate the political process like this.

    Since I don't have a nickel in that chicken fight, I don't really care, but listening to that shrieking for 8 years assuming we last that long, is sickening.
    Yeah.

    I was listening to that bloated old load Neal Boortz the other day (he's a lower-rent species of Limbaugh; just as bloated and bilious but less famous) and he was stomping his cloven hoofs in just that way, urging all his dittohead followers to vote for Hillary because that would help McCain win - which is true, unfortunately....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdm
    Well, eight years of shrieking could be amusing if one develops the right sense of humor. The country is so deep in the toilet right now that she probably could not make things worse.

    This is not to say that I would ever vote for that thing.
    Me either. Or McCain.

    I'm out... eject! eject! eject!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric
    Quote Originally Posted by jdm
    Well, eight years of shrieking could be amusing if one develops the right sense of humor. The country is so deep in the toilet right now that she probably could not make things worse.

    This is not to say that I would ever vote for that thing.
    Me either. Or McCain.

    I'm out... eject! eject! eject!
    I could vote for McCain unless he chooses Huckabee (?the Baptist preacher) as a running mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdm
    Quote Originally Posted by Eric
    Quote Originally Posted by jdm
    Well, eight years of shrieking could be amusing if one develops the right sense of humor. The country is so deep in the toilet right now that she probably could not make things worse.

    This is not to say that I would ever vote for that thing.
    Me either. Or McCain.

    I'm out... eject! eject! eject!
    I could vote for McCain unless he chooses Huckabee (?the Baptist preacher) as a running mate.
    Note me.

    His ass-licking of the Bush agenda and policies repel me; his cave-in on torture as policy disgusts me. He has also bent knee to that crackpot fundie nutjob Rev. Hagee... who is far worse than a baptist preacher like Huckabee.

    Here's some video on this fruitcake:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaXs8...eature=related

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