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    Conservative godfather Richard Viguerie on the Legacy of The Chimp

    Viguerie charges "disaster is looming" following the Republican loss of the third previously "safe" U.S. House seat in a row on Tuesday, in Mississippi's special election where Bush reportedly defeated Kerry 62% to 37% in 2004. AP announced the Democratic candidate Travis Childers the winner of the MS-01 race, in the heart of the "solid South" by a remarkable 54% to 46% thumpin'.

    In its wake, Viguerie names names, and declares the entirety of the GOP leadership has "failed --- or outright betrayed --- the conservative voters who put them in their positions...The hard work of the last 50 years by millions of conservative campaign workers, donors, candidates, writers, intellectuals, and activists has been trashed."

    "The conservative movement has been set back 10-20 years possibly even permanently," pens the man once referred to as the conservative "funding father" and creator of political direct mail fundraising. The "party Establishment...has brought the party down," he writes, adding "the party must clean house. The party leadership should resign immediately."

    He goes on to say Republican leaders have "nothing" to offer Republican voters and are motivated by "nothing except a craving for power," before concluding with a direct command to the GOP Leadership: "You turned against the principles you once espoused conservative principles and, in turn, conservatives and the American people have turned against you. Things will not get better until you accept responsibility, and resign...You have stayed too long. For the future of the Republican Party, for America and the cause of freedom: Go!"

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    I agree with Viguerie's assessment. It looks like the republicans could lose 50 seats this fall. Maybe close to 70 seats.

    We are in for an interesting crash into a brick wall.

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    Re: Conservative godfather Richard Viguerie on the Legacy of The Chimp

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry
    I agree with Viguerie's assessment. It looks like the republicans could lose 50 seats this fall. Maybe close to 70 seats.

    We are in for an interesting crash into a brick wall.
    Good!

    It is well deserved. The GOP needs to be destroyed. It has ruined conservatism, perhaps beyond repair.

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    Re: Conservative godfather Richard Viguerie on the Legacy of The Chimp

    And after them, the Democrats too. Both parties have long since gone apostate. This country needs an enema.

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    Re: Conservative godfather Richard Viguerie on the Legacy of The Chimp

    Quote Originally Posted by misterdecibel
    And after them, the Democrats too. Both parties have long since gone apostate. This country needs an enema.
    Amen!

    I am almost happy it is coming to this; better while I am young and strong and still able to fight. We may soon see what we are made of, after all.

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    Re: Conservative godfather Richard Viguerie on the Legacy of The Chimp

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric
    It is well deserved. The GOP needs to be destroyed. It has ruined conservatism, perhaps beyond repair.
    As a minor point, here, it should be noted that the Republican Party is not, by its own lights, "conservative." Conservatives have found a home there in recent times, but no one in their right mind would call, for example, Richard Nixon a "conservative." And many conservatives are saying it may be time to find a new home. It's happened before. After all, the Republican Party only came into existance in the late 1850's. Nothing in the Constitution says it has to be one of the two parties vying for power.

    However, at this point, I don't have any trouble at all imagining a landslide victory for Obama...but I also don't have any trouble imagining one for McCain. That's why palmists and tarot card readers stay in busines; it's hard to know what will happen this afternoon, let alone 5 months from now.

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    Re: Conservative godfather Richard Viguerie on the Legacy of The Chimp

    Quote Originally Posted by mrblanche
    As a minor point, here, it should be noted that the Republican Party is not, by its own lights, "conservative." Conservatives have found a home there in recent times, but no one in their right mind would call, for example, Richard Nixon a "conservative." And many conservatives are saying it may be time to find a new home. It's happened before. After all, the Republican Party only came into existence in the late 1850's. Nothing in the Constitution says it has to be one of the two parties vying for power.
    mrblanche,

    Very well said. Paleo-conservatives have never really been a part of the Republican party power structure. From 1980 to 1988 was essentually the most say paleo conservatives had in the Republican party. Lincoln was a progressive in his time. The era of Teddy Roosevelt is termed as "progressive" by historians. After WWII the Republicans went with IKE who was by no means conservative, the paleo conservative Robert Taft from Ohio was passed over for the 1952 presidential nomination. In 1960 Kennedy was more conservative than Nixon. Nixon billed himself a conservative in 1968 however he continued the explosive growth of LBJ's "Great Society" programs along with setting up his own big government programs. Nixon was responsible for the creation of the EPA, he supported wage and price controls, and he took the US off the gold standard. These are the traits of a liberal. Funny how even to this day paleo-conservative Pat Buchanan (a Nixon Speech writer) still praises Nixon, and has blinders on when it comes to Nixon's liberal nature (he thinks Mr. Nixon was just wonderful).

    Reagan unified the different wings of the Republican party the blue bloods, the neo-cons, and the paleo conservatives. His administration was the most conservative of all Republican administrations. However the growing budget deficit, fast growing US budget, and a trade deficit that exploded in growth under his administration, show a different side to the story. I must quote my late grandfather who used to say in the 1980s - "Ronnie's a big spender". Ronnie may have slashed some programs but the ones he liked he went nuts with spending.

    By Bush I, paleo-conservatives were thrown to the wolves, a unwritten policy that still happens today.

    But getting back to what you said, yes indeed paleo-conservatives parked temporarily in the Republican party. In other words by no means is the Repulican party conservative nor has it ever been. Back in the 1980s people used to refer to the old Republican party structure as the "Rockefeller Republicans", in today's Republican party the "Rockefeller Republicans" are alive and well.


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